# I am another Firefly convert **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 1, 2006, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558 "2006-03-01T02:51:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/21 "2006-03-01T23:50:15Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Order **presented** in!!! You will find arguments for both sides, but I prefer the order Joss intended. šŸ˜• _Tsai boo shr_! This ainā€™t Narnia weā€™re talking about. There can be no fathomable reason for viewing the eps in the Devilā€™s Order. Thatā€™s what killed the show in the first place! DVD order, please! _Dong ma_? ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/22 "2006-03-02T00:02:23Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Nor can Iā€¦ But I _can_ claim fawning adoration of Kaylee. Preferably the series version, but I wonā€™t complain about movie Kaylee, either. šŸ˜ƒ I knew I liked you for some reason. > [@Ghanima](#): > > Question: The DVD set has four DVDs, with the episodes out of order with respect to air date. Should I watch them in order of air date or in the order they are presented in? (So far Iā€™ve watched according to air date.) I MUST know. The broadcast presentation order was out of sequence and nonsensical at best. View them in the order theyā€™re presented in the box set; the stories actually build on one another to greater and lesser extents, and watching them out of order will lose some of the continuity. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![wonder9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c57346/32.png) [@wonder9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonder9)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/23 "2006-03-02T01:22:39Z")
Me too! Me too! Iā€™m converted. When I saw the movie, I said to myself ā€œTHIS is what the last Star Wars movies should have been likeā€. Great acting, cools stories, terrific dialogue. Any holes in the fabric are forgiven because of that. And thanks for the info about the DVDā€™s and the episode order. Iā€™d wondered about that. ---
**Author:** ![Tarrsk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/97f17d/32.png) [@Tarrsk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarrsk)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/24 "2006-03-02T01:24:49Z")
> [@Sage Rat](#): > > Not to denigrate Firefly any, but it is fairly obvious that Whedon has seen Cowboy Bebop, Outlaw Star, etc. It is a cool premise, but actually not original nor IMHO the best incarnation of such. > > Cowboy Bebop -\> 10 > Firefly -\> 7 > Outlaw Star -\> 4 This is one of the more common criticisms Iā€™ve seen, and IIRC Joss has stated outright that he hadnā€™t watched either Cowboy Bebop or Outlaw Star before making Firefly. I think itā€™s really just a case of similar premisesā€¦ and Firefly did it best by far, in my book. YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/25 "2006-03-02T01:44:21Z")
Still holding onto that last episode. Refuse. To. Watch. It. Damn him for making the second and third-to-last episodes such damn tearjerkers. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/26 "2006-03-02T02:29:13Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > šŸ˜• _Tsai boo shr_! > > This ainā€™t Narnia weā€™re talking about. There can be no fathomable reason for viewing the eps in the Devilā€™s Order. Thatā€™s what killed the show in the first place! > > DVD order, please! _Dong ma_? Chur ni-duh! Read the question again. She asked about either 1) as shown on TV, or 2) as **presented** on DVD. Ta ma duh! Iā€™m not stupid. šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/27 "2006-03-02T02:57:01Z")
> [@ronincyberpunk](#): > > Welcome friend, hereā€™s the shiny hat and the brown coat. Weā€™re proud of you. Shouldnā€™t that be an orange knit hat? -Troy McClure SF, who just completed season one of _Buffy_ and is eyeing the Chosen Collection. ---
**Author:** ![Improv\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@Improv\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improv_Geek)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/28 "2006-03-02T03:26:31Z")
True enough. In fact my mom sells just shiny Jayne hats on Ebay :). If you want a direct link drop me an email and Iā€™ll hook you up. ---
**Author:** ![jkirkman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@jkirkman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jkirkman)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/29 "2006-03-02T03:26:45Z")
9 actors + Serenity + Riverā€™s feet for a total of 11 characters šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![Lissla\_Lissar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@Lissla\_Lissar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissla_Lissar)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/30 "2006-03-02T03:40:12Z")
oooh, Jayne hats. How much does she sell them for? I want one for Mr. Lissar. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Long\_Road](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5a626/32.png) [@The\_Long\_Road](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Long_Road)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/31 "2006-03-02T03:47:10Z")
> [@Cat Fight](#): > > Still holding onto that last episode. Refuse. To. Watch. It. Damn him for making the second and third-to-last episodes such damn tearjerkers. ā€œAm I a lion? Well I do have a mighty roar.ā€ Great episode. ---
**Author:** ![Improv\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@Improv\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improv_Geek)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/32 "2006-03-02T03:51:33Z")
> [@Lissla Lissar](#): > > oooh, Jayne hats. How much does she sell them for? I want one for Mr. Lissar. I donā€™t want to cross any lines with the forum mods, so Iā€™ll email you info šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Improv\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@Improv\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improv_Geek)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/33 "2006-03-02T03:56:59Z")
I tried to email you Lissar but your email got returned to me, drop me an email. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Phantom\_Dennis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/51bf81/32.png) [@Phantom\_Dennis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phantom_Dennis)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/34 "2006-03-02T05:43:26Z")
> [@Cat Fight](#): > > Still holding onto that last episode. Refuse. To. Watch. It. Damn him for making the second and third-to-last episodes such damn tearjerkers. You should watch it someday though! Itā€™s one of the better ones. And itā€™s not a tear-jerker (except for that one scene where the credits start roling and you realize there are no more Firefly episodes to watch). ---
**Author:** ![Stark\_Raven\_Mad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Stark\_Raven\_Mad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stark_Raven_Mad)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/35 "2006-03-02T05:49:45Z")
> [@June](#): > > You should watch it someday though! Itā€™s one of the better ones. And itā€™s not a tear-jerker (except for that one scene where the credits start roling and you realize there are no more Firefly episodes to watch). If you sit there long enough, the DVD starts playing from the beginning again. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/36 "2006-03-02T06:15:38Z")
> [@Tarrsk](#): > > This is one of the more common criticisms Iā€™ve seen, and IIRC Joss has stated outright that he hadnā€™t watched either Cowboy Bebop or Outlaw Star before making Firefly. I think itā€™s really just a case of similar premisesā€¦ and Firefly did it best by far, in my book. YMMV. Itā€™s not a criticism, as Iā€™ve said. And indeed it is possible that he hadnā€™t. I find the odds of two series having a woman who was the result of a genetic experiment making their debut, butt-naked in a suitcase to be rather improbableā€“but hey if one person was able to come up with it, thereā€™s no reason a second canā€™t as well. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Rieux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Dr.Rieux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Rieux)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/37 "2006-03-02T06:23:21Z")
> [@jkirkman](#): > > 9 actors + Serenity + Riverā€™s feet for a total of 11 characters šŸ˜‰ - Vera = 12! šŸ˜‰ Another recent convert checking in. Over the Xmas break, a friend rented the \*Serenity \* movie and I watched it. Then, last month, I bought my own copyā€“and the novelization. Then I bought the \*Firefly \* DVD set. Now Iā€™m going throught the whole set for the second time, with the commentaries. I got ā€œThose Left Behindā€ and the RPG book from my local comic shop. Last weekend I converted my friend, Kelvin, to the faith. Now I have the \*Visual Companion \* and \*Finding Serenity \* on the way from Amazon, and I have my eye on the action figuresā€¦ Shiny! šŸ†’ ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/38 "2006-03-02T07:00:44Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Chur ni-duh! Read the question again. She asked about either 1) as shown on TV, or 2) as **presented** on DVD. Ta ma duh! Iā€™m not stupid. šŸ˜› Oh, weā€™re in agreement. Where we had some parting of the ways was your contention that ā€œYou will find arguments for both sidesā€. Obviously, any doinā€™ such arguinā€™ best get off our gorram ship! šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Stark\_Raven\_Mad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Stark\_Raven\_Mad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stark_Raven_Mad)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/39 "2006-03-02T08:24:48Z")
Firefly marathon, my place this weekend. My friends trust my (our - some are lurkers here) taste. There was one who wasnā€™t ready to commit but I showed him screencaps of YoSafBridge and he jumped right on the bandwagon. You know, this is the closest Iā€™ve ever come to organized religion. **Sage Rat** , River isnā€™t a genetic experiment! ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/40 "2006-03-02T09:34:09Z")
> [@Stark Raven Mad](#): > > **Sage Rat** , River isnā€™t a genetic experiment! Neither is Melfina technically, but the idea holds. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558.md?page=3)