# I am another Firefly convert

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**Created:** [March 1, 2006, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558 "2006-03-01T02:51:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/61 "2006-03-13T21:56:09Z")

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:smack: Please disregard that post. “Film” didn’t register until just now.

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**Author:** ![Lazlo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lazlo/32/9678_2.png) [@Lazlo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lazlo)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/62 "2006-03-13T22:30:55Z")

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Another recent convert checking in. A couple weeks ago a friend hosted a poker tourney and there were _three_ boxed sets of Firefly being loaned out from one player to another. After the game, we watched a few episodes and I was hooked. Naturally, I picked up the season and the movie the next day.

One thing that I really enjoyed is what they consider valuable on the outer worlds.

Rest assured friends, I’m trying to do my part. I loaned the season to a friend of mine last week.

**ronincyberpunk** , I’d be interested in taking a look at your mom’s ebay listing if you would be so kind as to email me the info. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Brainiac4](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brainiac4/32/3534_2.png) [@Brainiac4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brainiac4)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/63 "2006-03-13T22:49:21Z")

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I just converted as well – picked up the first disc of the set from Netflix, and am going to swing by the store and pick up the full set ASAP, along with the movie.

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**Author:** ![Ghanima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Ghanima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ghanima)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/64 "2006-03-13T22:54:19Z")

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Am I insane or did Firefly actually air an episode a month or two _before_ the dates listed on the box set? The reason I ask is because I moved from California to Vermont in August 2002 and I would swear on a stack of bibles that I saw an episode while I was still living in Vermont. It was the 2nd or third episode on the first disc, it opens with some of the crew playing basketball. I am absolutely positive I saw this while I was living in Vermont. Or am I crazy?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/65 "2006-03-13T23:23:06Z")

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> [@Ghanima](#):
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> Am I insane or did Firefly actually air an episode a month or two _before_ the dates listed on the box set? The reason I ask is because I moved from California to Vermont in August 2002 and I would swear on a stack of bibles that I saw an episode while I was still living in Vermont. It was the 2nd or third episode on the first disc, it opens with some of the crew playing basketball. I am absolutely positive I saw this while I was living in Vermont. Or am I crazy?

That scene was used in some promos, perhaps that’s where you saw it?

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**Author:** ![wonderlust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonderlust/32/7237_2.png) [@wonderlust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonderlust)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/66 "2006-03-14T00:01:57Z")

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I just saw that the Firefly Complete Season DVD is only $25 (half-price) at Amazon. Such a deal! If I’d know it was so cheap, I wouldn’t have done it the Netflix way. I just bought it and Serenity.

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**Author:** ![Ghanima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Ghanima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ghanima)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/67 "2006-03-14T00:15:36Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> That scene was used in some promos, perhaps that’s where you saw it?

It’s possible, but in my mind’s eye I thought at the time tht it was the pilot…we watched a very short while and then started talking about other things and stopped paying attention. Isn’t that just weird when you remember something so clearly only to be told that it’s impossible? But I would SWEAR that I saw it before the air date on the box. 😕

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**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/68 "2006-03-14T01:35:03Z")

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> [@ronincyberpunk](#):
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> Joss Whedon planned the 2 hour premiere with a very obvious break at the 1 hour mark. The main argument for Fox skipping it is the fact that there is relatively little action until the 2nd hour.

What about the Gorram battle of Serenity Valley? 10 minutes of action with little else.

Most series don’t begin with a gorram battle.

> [@ronincyberpunk](#):
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> .  
> And to be honest “Train Job” the second episode is pretty weak overall.
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> _shrugs_ Just my gorram 2 cents.

I disagree. “Train Job” was the episode that hooked me, not “Serenity”. “Serenity” got my attention(but Serenity is a bit slow at times. It sometimes drags), but the moment what’s his name went into the engine in “Train Job”…I was hooked.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f07891/32.png) [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Plastic_Ninja)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/69 "2006-03-14T02:06:47Z")

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> [@Phantom Dennis](#):
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> IIRC, the word “firefly” is never spoken in the entire film.

Well now, I could have sworn I remember hearing someone call the ship a Firefly-class, but that might have been in an ep rather than the movie.

I guess I’ll just have to watch it an eighth time to make sure. 😃

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/70 "2006-03-14T03:17:41Z")

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> [@Lazlo](#):
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> …One thing that I really enjoyed is what they consider valuable on the outer worlds…

And that was…?

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**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/71 "2006-03-14T03:29:58Z")

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…wouldn’t that be…Companions?

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**Author:** ![Nic2004](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4491bb/32.png) [@Nic2004](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nic2004)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/72 "2006-03-14T03:36:08Z")

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I too am a convert to _Firefly_ and _Serenity_! I was turned on to the series my my friends here. Once again, I have been shown the way. How could I have missed out on such a great thing for so long?  
Just today I saw the one with Jayne as the Hero of the Mudders.  
Very cool. Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Improv\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@Improv\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improv_Geek)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/73 "2006-03-14T03:57:56Z")

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> [@HPL](#):
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> What about the Gorram battle of Serenity Valley? 10 minutes of action with little else.
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> Most series don’t begin with a gorram battle.

You’re right, I forgot it started with the Serenity Valley. I guess that does give it the action starter. My bad 🙂

> [@HPL](#):
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> I disagree. “Train Job” was the episode that hooked me, not “Serenity”. “Serenity” got my attention(but Serenity is a bit slow at times. It sometimes drags), but the moment what’s his name went into the engine in “Train Job”…I was hooked.

And more power to you dude, I just wasn’t impressed with it.

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**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/74 "2006-03-14T06:30:05Z")

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> [@ronincyberpunk](#):
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> They’re really saying ‘Shiny.’

And after Gina Torres (Zoe) showed up as a Goddess on Angel, they had an episode of that show titled “Shiny Happy People”. 🆒

One of my friends laughed at me when I got really angry a few weeks back and I used “Gorram!” in a sentence. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/75 "2006-03-14T06:32:56Z")

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> [@Elendil's Heir](#):
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> And that was…?

Something of a minorly important revalation in the Serenity pilot 😉

Food rations, ingots of food rations. 😃

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**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/76 "2006-03-14T06:33:06Z")

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> [@Raguleader](#):
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> One of my friends laughed at me when I got really angry a few weeks back and I used “Gorram!” in a sentence. :rolleyes:

That’s why you have to convert your friends. We do a lot of gorraming around here, and no one ever thinks to laugh, because they know it’s serious when someone uses the term. 😃

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**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/77 "2006-03-14T10:45:55Z")

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Ok. Firefly question. I didn’t want to start up a new thread about it, so I figured I’d just tack it on to an active firefly thread.

I was watching the marathon they were running on the sci-fi channel friday.

They typically use real world guns on the show, which I appreciate. You can’t improve all that much on slug-thrower design than we’ve reached at this point. So they use what we use - simple, reliable. I appreciate that.

So WHY THE HELL when they rack the slide on a shotgun or chamber a round in a rifle do the guns make sci-fi noises? WTF? They seemed to be making a statement that high tech gadgets are less practical than simple, reliable guns… and then completely contradicted that with really cheesy sci-fi futuristic sci fi effects. Some guy racks the bolt carrier on a standard AKM/AK-47, and we hear “bzzuuuutt” ?!? That’s the only thing on the show that absolutely drove me nuts. Anyone have any explanations? Were the sound effects guys trying to prove the need for them by adding superfluous sounds?

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**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/78 "2006-03-14T11:13:47Z")

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While I’m at it, one more random question.

In Objects in space:

Simon: So you’re a bounty hunter?  
Early: That aint it at all.  
Simon: Then what are you?  
Early: I’m a bounty hunter.

Is this just another instance of Early mishearing him? (Am I a lion?) or did I mishear it? Just sounds strange.

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**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/79 "2006-03-14T12:28:58Z")

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I’ve been out of the US since 2000, so I didn’t hear about Firefly until much later, years after the series was gone in fact. I heard good things about it here and other places, so I downloaded some episodes off a P2P network. Halfway through the premiere episode, I thought, “Hey, pretty good.” By the end of that episode, I was a convert. I ended up getting the boxed set of DVDs in the States on my next trip back and by a happy coincidence the Serenity DVD was released in the middle of that trip. I bought that too.

I’ve since watched all the episodes at least twice and introduced it to four other people, all of whom have loved it. I know that at least two complete series sets have been bought because I showed people episodes from the set that I’d bought. Damn good SF.

Movie and TV studios seem to have their heads up their asses. Properly managed, this could have been a big hit that ran for a long, long time. It’s a female-friendly series because a lot of what happens is character-driven and the relationships between the characters are explored; in other words, it’s not all gadgets and explosions. At the same time, there’s plenty of stuff for guys to enthuse over (hot chicks, explosions, and guns) along with depth of culture, technological mysteries for the techies to get into, backstories to pursue. It really did have it all.

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**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-another-firefly-convert/346558/80 "2006-03-14T13:52:00Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> While I’m at it, one more random question.
> 
> In Objects in space:
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> Simon: So you’re a bounty hunter?  
> Early: That aint it at all.  
> Simon: Then what are you?  
> Early: I’m a bounty hunter.
> 
> Is this just another instance of Early mishearing him? (Am I a lion?) or did I mishear it? Just sounds strange.

You heard right, Early is just a bit nuts…

And for your question about guns, I never even noticed the different sounds. _shrug_ So I really don’t have anything to give you - lol.

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