# I am appalled

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**Created:** [December 1, 2011, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-appalled/604694 "2011-12-01T13:24:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![picunurse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@picunurse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/picunurse)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-appalled/604694/1 "2011-12-01T13:24:52Z")

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I’m pretty quiet around here. I’ve never had a warning or even a note from a mod.  
I have reported threads when they seemed to be in the wrong forum. I don’t do it every day, or even every week.  
I reported one yesterday. I received 2 e-mails about it from different mods. In one, I was actually cced a copy of **twickster** ’s missive.

Here’s what she said about me: “picunurse is the blind pig looking for acorns. Rare are the occasions when she finds one.”

I won’t be reporting threads again.

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-appalled/604694/2 "2011-12-01T13:34:26Z")

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If I knew which thread you thought was in the wrong forum, I might be appalled too.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-appalled/604694/3 "2011-12-01T13:41:39Z")

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:eek: :eek:

What a revolting development this is.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-appalled/604694/4 "2011-12-01T13:49:15Z")

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Surely a blind pig would be better employed looking for truffles as acorns are just laying around on the surface.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-appalled/604694/5 "2011-12-01T13:52:55Z")

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And here is the copy of the email I sent this morning, when I discovered what I’d done:

Dear picunurse –

There is absolutely no excuse whatsoever for what I said. I do apologize, very sincerely, for a rude and absolutely inappropriate comment. Obviously I didn’t realize you were on the CC list for that, but even if you weren’t I shouldn’t have said it.

I am truly sorry and embarrassed to have written those words. The fact that I had had a bad day doesn’t give me license to make assholish comments about someone who is doing her best to help keep the SDMB a good place to be.

I hope – but don’t expect – that you will be able to forgive me.

Judy (aka twickster)

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-appalled/604694/6 "2011-12-01T13:55:30Z")

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> [@picunurse](#):
>
> I’m pretty quiet around here. I’ve never had a warning or even a note from a mod.  
> I have reported threads when they seemed to be in the wrong forum. I don’t do it every day, or even every week.  
> I reported one yesterday. I received 2 e-mails about it from different mods. In one, I was actually cced a copy of **twickster** ’s missive.
> 
> Here’s what she said about me: “picunurse is the blind pig looking for acorns. Rare are the occasions when she finds one.”
> 
> I won’t be reporting threads again.

No. Wrong reaction. The correct action is to report more threads. The last thing you want to do is allow someone to win who would make such a horrible comment.

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**Author:** ![Fiveroptic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiveroptic/32/8257_2.png) [@Fiveroptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveroptic)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-appalled/604694/7 "2011-12-01T13:57:14Z")

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Too little, too fucking late. Your time is over, Twickster. You suck as a mod. Step down.

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-appalled/604694/8 "2011-12-01T13:57:53Z")

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Cuing posts about what a “class act” twickster is in 5, 4, 3…

It’s way too easy to imagine that this kind of mod-loop shit-talking goes on all the time and that this is just one example of that. Still, twickster is demonstrably a shit mod and she’s still around so I doubt this (I mean the exposure of it because I’m already reasonably certain that nobody in the administration will give a shit about twickster’s actions) will matter to anybody.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-appalled/604694/9 "2011-12-01T14:01:30Z")

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What twicks said to me in an older thread

> [@twickster](#):
>
> Okey doke. I did get a report, but not from Skald, and when I read through the thread, it seemed like there were two ways to read that particular post – my headache voted against the benign interpretation. I’ll tell my headache to STFU.

and here

> [@twickster](#):
>
> The fact that I had had a bad day doesn’t give me license to make assholish comments about someone who is doing her best to help keep the SDMB a good place to be

If twicks can’t stop making these comments based on her mood, maybe it’s time for her to step down.

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-appalled/604694/10 "2011-12-01T14:01:38Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
>
> And here is the copy of the email I sent this morning, when I discovered what I’d done:
> 
> Dear picunurse –
> 
> There is absolutely no excuse whatsoever for what I said. I do apologize, very sincerely, for a rude and absolutely inappropriate comment. Obviously I didn’t realize you were on the CC list for that, but even if you weren’t I shouldn’t have said it.
> 
> I am truly sorry and embarrassed to have written those words. The fact that I had had a bad day doesn’t give me license to make assholish comments about someone who is doing her best to help keep the SDMB a good place to be.
> 
> I hope – but don’t expect – that you will be able to forgive me.
> 
> Judy (aka twickster)

“Whoever wrote it probably didn’t think anyone would ever see it?” - Mean Girls, 2004

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**Author:** ![chiroptera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@chiroptera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chiroptera)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-appalled/604694/11 "2011-12-01T14:07:39Z")

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> [@picunurse](#):
>
> I’m pretty quiet around here. I’ve never had a warning or even a note from a mod.  
> I have reported threads when they seemed to be in the wrong forum. I don’t do it every day, or even every week.  
> I reported one yesterday. I received 2 e-mails about it from different mods. In one, I was actually cced a copy of **twickster** ’s missive.
> 
> Here’s what she said about me: “picunurse is the blind pig looking for acorns. Rare are the occasions when she finds one.”
> 
> I won’t be reporting threads again.

:eek:☹

Keep reporting threads as you see fit, picunurse.

twickster’s nasty comment (and “apology”) says more about her than about you.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-appalled/604694/12 "2011-12-01T14:45:18Z")

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This seems to me to be sort of like those surprise “open mike” comments … she just didn’t know this thing was on!

Many of us\*, in what we believe to be private conversations, say snarky nasty things about the rest of us\*\* all the time. Sometimes there are points behind those assessments, oftentimes not, but we all live with the knowledge that _some_ people out there think badly of each of us. Or we delude ourselves.

The worse form was the mod who cc’ed you, not the nastiness (even assuming, as is likely, its being completely without any possible justification) expressed in presumed privacy.

For the little it is worth, I’d vote for accepting the apology, recognizing that one mod thinks you report threads too often and without good enough cause, evaluating that thought for what it is or is not worth, and then continuing to do what you think is in your and the overall board’s best interest. (Now if a _consensus_ of mods felt that way about you, then you’d need to take it more seriously … one mod, nah.)

\*Never _me_ or _you_, of course!

\*\*Never _me_ or _you_, of course!

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**Author:** ![saje](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saje/32/3631_2.png) [@saje](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saje)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-appalled/604694/13 "2011-12-01T15:07:57Z")

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It sounds like **twickster** cc’d **picunurse** herself, by accident.

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**Author:** ![Lukeinva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lukeinva/32/17872_2.png) [@Lukeinva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lukeinva)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-appalled/604694/14 "2011-12-01T15:11:52Z")

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What does it matter if a thread is in the wrong forum? It’s a judgement call and trivial.

ps-Spanish ham from pigs raised on acorns is really good!  
ps2- Pigs cannot look upwards…

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**Author:** ![Strainger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/strainger/32/244_2.png) [@Strainger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strainger)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-appalled/604694/15 "2011-12-01T15:12:37Z")

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Twickster’s “apology” reminds me of an Onion column. This one:

> **[Honey, I Said Some Things I Didn't Mean To Say Out Loud](https://www.theonion.com/honey-i-said-some-things-i-didnt-mean-to-say-out-loud-1819583869)**
>
> Darling, I know you're upset, and you have every right to be. I don't think we've ever gotten into a fight like that before. But I just want you to know that those cruel things I said, well, I didn't mean a single word of them to be said out loud. I...

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-appalled/604694/16 "2011-12-01T15:29:12Z")

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Also FWIW, the comment comes off as nasty I think because of the word “pig” in it, but really that is a just a bit of an old timey saying akin to “…even the blind squirrel finds a nut now and then.” The point I do not think should be that she was calling you a pig, but that she thinks you report too often and often without cause. Maybe once every week or so _is_ enough to put you in the more frequent reporter group and maybe those reports are off the mark more often than not … or not. I, of course, have no way to have any idea.\* But one mode expressing _that_ thought, be it accurate or way inaccurate, to other mods, as part of discussing a report you have made, does not seem all that appalling, nor any cause for you to change your behaviors.

On preview … if **twickster** did the cc herself then she deserves a big :smack:

\*Personally I’ve reported less than a handful of posts in all my years here. Am I an unusually infrequent reporter? I don’t know that either.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-appalled/604694/17 "2011-12-01T15:31:35Z")

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Is anyone surprised? **Twixie** , or whatever the fuck her name is, is hate-filled and vile in her \*public \*moderation.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-appalled/604694/18 "2011-12-01T15:33:24Z")

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Who here has _never_ said something about an individual you wouldn’t want getting back to them? If you have, what do you think the penalty _should_ have been, even after you apologized?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-appalled/604694/19 "2011-12-01T15:35:54Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
>
> Also FWIW, the comment comes off as nasty I think because of the word “pig” in it, but really that is a just a bit of an old timey saying akin to “…even the blind squirrel finds a nut now and then.” The point I do not think should be that she was calling you a pig, but that she thinks you report too often and often without cause. Maybe once every week or so _is_ enough to put you in the more frequent reporter group and maybe those reports are off the mark more often than not … or not. I, of course, have no way to have any idea.\* But one mode expressing _that_ thought, be it accurate or way inaccurate, to other mods, as part of discussing a report you have made, does not seem all that appalling, nor any cause for you to change your behaviors.
> 
> On preview … if **twickster** did the cc herself then she deserves a big :smack:
> 
> \*Personally I’ve reported less than a handful of posts in all my years here. Am I an unusually infrequent reporter? I don’t know that either.

Then I must be hogzilla. I probably report 5 or 6 threads every week, especially in GQ. Sometimes more. Most do get moved, I think.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-appalled/604694/20 "2011-12-01T15:39:00Z")

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For the record (because I’m sure someone is taking notes), twickster’s apology was spot-on. But it’s about the 100th time she’s had to make an apology in ATMB (I counted, and no, I won’t show you the math). I don’t know what the threshold should be, but that’s too many. twickster, please step down at TPTB’s earliest convenience.

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