# I am being ripped off **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 11, 2025, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-being-ripped-off/1016936 "2025-04-11T23:59:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2025, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-being-ripped-off/1016936/1 "2025-04-11T23:59:45Z")
I am a mathematician and I produce and sell theorems. But most of the people I do business with are not interested in buying a theorem from me. So I pay them in seldincoins, which are kind of IOU. My barber, for example, has never bought a theorem from me, but is happy to take seldincoins. I assume she\* either keeps the seldincoins or uses them to pay her suppliers and employees. My grocer has never bought a theorem from me, but seems happy to accept seldincoins. My appliance dealer, who sells me a fridge, a washer, a dryer, etc., has never purchased a theorem from me but is happy to accept seldincoins. My university pays me in seldincoins but buys loads of theorems all the time. Don’t you see how everyone else is ripping me off by buying few or no theorems, just accumulating seldincoins. Disgusting. I will have to raise their prices to remedy the problem. Maybe then, I can bring haircutting, grocery producing, appliance making, back home and do it myself. \*IRL my barber is a woman, along with her workers. They do only men’s hair and beards. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-being-ripped-off/1016936/2 "2025-04-12T00:02:18Z")
You’re not addressing the only important issue here. Is what you doing having a negative effect on my stock portfolio? ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-being-ripped-off/1016936/3 "2025-04-12T00:09:20Z")
No but I’m having a special today: 6 theorems for only 5 seldincoins. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-being-ripped-off/1016936/4 "2025-04-12T00:11:34Z")
I can produce my own theorems both more expensively and less effectively than you, why do I need yours? ---
**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-being-ripped-off/1016936/5 "2025-04-12T00:27:01Z")
Do you sell paradoxes too? I don’t really need any theorems right now, but I could use a few paradoxes. Maybe I could trade you a couple of axioms that you could use in your theorems. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-being-ripped-off/1016936/6 "2025-04-12T00:27:24Z")
Harry, What measures are you taking/can you take that might raise or lower the value of seldincoins relative to other currencies? And … in evaluating the risks associated with holding seldincoins, has your barber proposed giving your numbers a **[haircut](https://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/haircut.asp)**? Thanks. > [@markn\_1](#): > > Do you sell paradoxes too? Though I think it costs a fair bit of Money, I know a guy that can get you two tickets to paradox. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-being-ripped-off/1016936/7 "2025-04-12T00:30:29Z")
Are Seldincoins like the Gold Standard but for theorems? In other words, can Seldincoins be redeemed for theorems upon request? Is there an inflationary effect here? Do I get a worse return trying to redeem for a theorem on weekends and holidays? (seems so since you have a finite ability to create theorems but there will be ever more Seldincoins…not to mention no one lives forever and then no one can redeem their Seldincoin for a theorem) ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-being-ripped-off/1016936/8 "2025-04-12T00:30:56Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > Though I think it costs a fair bit of Money, I know a guy that can get you two tickets to paradox. I’m sorry to tell you this, they paved paradox and put up a parking lot. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-being-ripped-off/1016936/9 "2025-04-12T00:31:26Z")
Boy, you really _don’t_ know what you’ve got 'til it’s gone, do you. [Nice one] ---
**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-being-ripped-off/1016936/10 "2025-04-12T00:38:45Z")
Can I get a paradox by the dashboard light? ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-being-ripped-off/1016936/11 "2025-04-12T00:41:02Z")
“Well, honey burn all the quatloos” ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-being-ripped-off/1016936/12 "2025-04-12T00:43:01Z")
If this website had an upvote mechanism that post would certainly get one! Digging deep into the lore. ---
**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-being-ripped-off/1016936/13 "2025-04-12T00:43:05Z")
A theorem is only worth what someone will pay for it now. You can hope that it is worth a lot more money while you hold it. Other people may tell you that your theorem is worth a lot of money, but it is worthess until it is actually traded. All money and assets have only a theoretical value until traded. Yet that is the way the stock market opperates. Trading on imagined value. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-being-ripped-off/1016936/14 "2025-04-12T00:57:01Z")
How can we trust Seldincoins when they’re a misspelling? I smell a scam. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-being-ripped-off/1016936/15 "2025-04-12T01:15:08Z")
Oy, I don’t even know how to spell my own name! Can I send you a theorem to compensate? ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-being-ripped-off/1016936/16 "2025-04-12T01:27:35Z")
Hari’s Incomplete Bank Account Theorem ---
**Author:** ![Ponderoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponderoid/32/19221_2.png) [@Ponderoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponderoid)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-being-ripped-off/1016936/17 "2025-04-12T01:27:42Z")
We won’t settle for anything less than a verified proof of the psychohistory conjecture. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-being-ripped-off/1016936/18 "2025-04-12T01:28:37Z")
> [@markn\_1](#): > > Do you sell paradoxes too? I don’t really need any theorems right now, but I could use a few paradoxes. I had a whole heap of paradoxes yesterday, but some jerk kept taking them away one by one. ---
**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-being-ripped-off/1016936/19 "2025-04-12T01:43:57Z")
So you still have a heap, then? ---
**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-being-ripped-off/1016936/20 "2025-04-12T01:50:57Z")
Here, I’ll give you an axiom for free. It’s a good one; you can do almost anything with it: \exists R \colon x \notin x \iff x \in R [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-being-ripped-off/1016936.md?page=2)