# I am confused about Alex Jones' lawyer's "mistake" in sending all of Jones' phone contents to the plaintiffs **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 4, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-confused-about-alex-jones-lawyers-mistake-in-sending-all-of-jones-phone-contents-to-the-plaintiffs/969096 "2022-08-04T15:34:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-confused-about-alex-jones-lawyers-mistake-in-sending-all-of-jones-phone-contents-to-the-plaintiffs/969096/181 "2022-08-11T04:33:03Z")
> [@Drum\_God](#): > > He won the suit, but was shocked to discover that the amount received was less than the amount actually awarded. Did he expect his lawyers to act for free? ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-confused-about-alex-jones-lawyers-mistake-in-sending-all-of-jones-phone-contents-to-the-plaintiffs/969096/182 "2022-08-11T04:44:05Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Did he expect his lawyers to act for free? You missed the point. The jury awarded him more than the law allowed for those types of law suits. He was given the legal maximum. ---
**Author:** ![Drum\_God](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drum_god/32/44_2.png) [@Drum\_God](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drum_God)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-confused-about-alex-jones-lawyers-mistake-in-sending-all-of-jones-phone-contents-to-the-plaintiffs/969096/183 "2022-08-11T04:48:29Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Did he expect his lawyers to act for free? Of course not. But the award was reduced by statute and the attorney fees were deducted from that. (As I understand it. I was not involved in the final settlement.) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-confused-about-alex-jones-lawyers-mistake-in-sending-all-of-jones-phone-contents-to-the-plaintiffs/969096/184 "2022-08-11T18:16:25Z")
Among the items in Alex Jones’s phone that were sent to the Texas plaintiffs’ lawyer were the medical records of the parents suing him in Connecticut. The Connecticut judge wants an explanation from Jones’s Connecticut lawyer as to how those record got sent to Jones’s Texas lawyer. > **[CT judge ‘gravely concerned’ Alex Jones' lawyer may have shared Sandy Hook...](https://www.middletownpress.com/news/article/CT-judge-gravely-concerned-Alex-Jones-17365178.php)** > > Alex Jones’ attorney Norm Pattis was ordered to explain to a Connecticut judge how... ---
**Author:** ![Bootb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@Bootb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootb)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-confused-about-alex-jones-lawyers-mistake-in-sending-all-of-jones-phone-contents-to-the-plaintiffs/969096/185 "2022-08-11T23:25:45Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The Connecticut judge wants an explanation from Jones’s Connecticut lawyer as to how those record got sent to Jones’s Texas lawyer. I have one– It’s incompetent lawyers all the way down! Or, alternately– Both lawyers are secret agents from the Deep State, and their purpose is to discredit Jones. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-confused-about-alex-jones-lawyers-mistake-in-sending-all-of-jones-phone-contents-to-the-plaintiffs/969096/186 "2022-08-11T23:29:52Z")
“your honor, we were merely sending confidential medical records to our colleague in another state, who had no legal reason to have them. We wanted him to be able to discredit the parents of a dead child by smearing them. I hope this answers your questions fully.” ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-confused-about-alex-jones-lawyers-mistake-in-sending-all-of-jones-phone-contents-to-the-plaintiffs/969096/187 "2022-08-12T01:13:24Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The Connecticut judge wants an explanation from Jones’s Connecticut lawyer as to how those record got sent to Jones’s Texas lawyer. What I’m wondering is how did Jones’s Connecticut lawyer get those records in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-confused-about-alex-jones-lawyers-mistake-in-sending-all-of-jones-phone-contents-to-the-plaintiffs/969096/188 "2022-08-12T01:26:50Z")
That’s part of what the hearing is about. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-confused-about-alex-jones-lawyers-mistake-in-sending-all-of-jones-phone-contents-to-the-plaintiffs/969096/189 "2022-08-12T01:54:17Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > What I’m wondering is how did Jones’s Connecticut lawyer get those records in the first place. If Attorneys for the families were trying to establish damages that their clients suffered, they might have disclosed medical records showing physical health problems or mental health treatment. But those would have been shared under strict rules of confidentiality, since they are so personal. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-confused-about-alex-jones-lawyers-mistake-in-sending-all-of-jones-phone-contents-to-the-plaintiffs/969096/190 "2022-08-12T03:30:48Z")
My favorite part of this whole proceeding is plaintiff’s council’s “indeed!”, when he drops the phone bomb on Jones. Almost Monty Burns. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-confused-about-alex-jones-lawyers-mistake-in-sending-all-of-jones-phone-contents-to-the-plaintiffs/969096/191 "2022-08-12T03:47:22Z")
He really should have tented his fingers together and said “Eeeexcellent!” [https://i.gifer.com/EiI.mp4](https://i.gifer.com/EiI.mp4) ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-confused-about-alex-jones-lawyers-mistake-in-sending-all-of-jones-phone-contents-to-the-plaintiffs/969096/192 "2022-08-13T11:38:12Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The Connecticut judge wants an explanation from Jones’s Connecticut lawyer as to how those record got sent to Jones’s Texas lawyer. “You Honor, did you notice the absolute shitshow we made of trying to comply with discovery last week? Same way!” ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-confused-about-alex-jones-lawyers-mistake-in-sending-all-of-jones-phone-contents-to-the-plaintiffs/969096/193 "2022-08-14T14:43:51Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > “You Honor, did you notice the absolute shitshow we made of trying to comply with discovery last week? Same way!” I thought that part was more deliberate shennanigans. Bring the Texas lawyer on as co-counsel to share the records, then remove him again. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2022, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-confused-about-alex-jones-lawyers-mistake-in-sending-all-of-jones-phone-contents-to-the-plaintiffs/969096/194 "2022-08-27T03:45:58Z")
Jones lawyer pleads the Fifth. > **[Alex Jones' lawyer invokes right against self-incrimination during Sandy Hook...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alex-jones-lawyer-takes-fifth-sandy-hook-hearing-rcna44932)** > > Norman Pattis refused to answer questions, citing his Fifth Amendment rights, at a disciplinary hearing over his handling of confidential records. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2022, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-confused-about-alex-jones-lawyers-mistake-in-sending-all-of-jones-phone-contents-to-the-plaintiffs/969096/195 "2022-08-30T09:57:31Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Jones lawyer pleads the Fifth. As this is a civil proceeding, does adverse inference apply? ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2022, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-confused-about-alex-jones-lawyers-mistake-in-sending-all-of-jones-phone-contents-to-the-plaintiffs/969096/196 "2022-08-30T18:01:57Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Jones lawyer pleads the Fifth. In the particulars of this situation, I feel like this is pretty equivalent to saying, “I literally and simply have no case to make in my defense.” ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2022, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-confused-about-alex-jones-lawyers-mistake-in-sending-all-of-jones-phone-contents-to-the-plaintiffs/969096/197 "2022-08-30T18:07:54Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > > > Jones lawyer pleads the Fifth. > > In the particulars of this situation, I feel like this is pretty equivalent to saying, “I literally and simply have no case to make in my defense.”- “Since when is it illegal to be a dumbfuck?” ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2022, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-confused-about-alex-jones-lawyers-mistake-in-sending-all-of-jones-phone-contents-to-the-plaintiffs/969096/198 "2022-08-30T18:24:25Z")
I don’t think that that plea is going to go over very well with the Connecticut state bar. He’s going to need to find a new career path. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2022, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-confused-about-alex-jones-lawyers-mistake-in-sending-all-of-jones-phone-contents-to-the-plaintiffs/969096/199 "2022-08-30T18:39:21Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > He’s going to need to find a new career path. Fast food places need staff badly. Though I’m not sure I’d want to eat anything he prepared, he’d probably neglect to cook it. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2022, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-confused-about-alex-jones-lawyers-mistake-in-sending-all-of-jones-phone-contents-to-the-plaintiffs/969096/200 "2022-08-30T18:40:02Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > > [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > > > He’s going to need to find a new career path. > > Fast food places need staff badly. > > Though I’m not sure I’d want to eat anything he prepared, he’d probably neglect to cook it. - He’ll give _your_ food to other people. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-confused-about-alex-jones-lawyers-mistake-in-sending-all-of-jones-phone-contents-to-the-plaintiffs/969096.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-confused-about-alex-jones-lawyers-mistake-in-sending-all-of-jones-phone-contents-to-the-plaintiffs/969096.md?page=11)