# I am dreading Election day

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 21, 2024, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558 "2024-09-21T16:06:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/21 "2024-09-22T00:46:43Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> If Kamala Harris wins, I’ll breathe a sigh of relief.

I breathed a sigh of relief when Biden won, but it turned out The Fat Man wasn’t even close to being done singing.

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> But then again there’s a 10% chance of contested election: that won’t be fun.

I’d put it much higher than that. At least 90%.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/22 "2024-09-22T00:50:18Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> But then again there’s a 10% chance of contested election: that won’t be fun.

There’s a 100% chance that Trump will contest the outcome if he loses.

And roughly a 0% chance of it getting him anywhere.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/23 "2024-09-22T01:01:26Z")

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But the real purpose of all the lawsuits is to bring the prosecutions, and indeed the government of Harris herself, to a massive halt. If she wins expect a massive Republican campaign pointing out that she isn’t accomplishing what she said she would. It will be yet another case of Republicans screaming that the Democratic car doesn’t run, while those same Republicans are pouring sugar in the gas tank.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/24 "2024-09-22T01:15:41Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> But the real purpose of all the lawsuits is to bring the prosecutions, and indeed the government of Harris herself, to a massive halt.

That’s been their MO since 2009. Same old tired playbook.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/25 "2024-09-22T01:16:41Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> No more.

It is not the civilized world.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/26 "2024-09-22T01:17:22Z")

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> …when his goons start rounding up a bunch of brown and black people for deportation.

I don’t believe it will happen. He only wants to win to keep his fat feculent ass out of jail. He’s too stupid and lazy to actually ever do anything, and sane people downstream will thwart him if he actually tried to do anything.

Wishful thinking, most likely.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/27 "2024-09-22T01:17:49Z")

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You stick with what works.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/28 "2024-09-22T01:20:38Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> I don’t believe it will happen. He only wants to win to keep his fat feculent ass out of jail. He’s too stupid and lazy to actually ever do anything, and sane people downstream will thwart him if he actually tried to do anything.

For Trump? Correct.

For “Government Efficiency Commissioner” Elon Musk? The sky’s the limit. (Literally, cause his rockets keep exploding.)

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/29 "2024-09-22T01:45:38Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> It will be yet another case of Republicans screaming that the Democratic car doesn’t run, while those same Republicans are pouring sugar in the gas tank.

While never coming up with any “car” of their own.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/30 "2024-09-22T01:47:42Z")

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“Look! Over there!”

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/31 "2024-09-22T01:51:26Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> _“Give him a chance! He won’t be that bad. He’ll start behaving like a president any minute now. Look, he has surrounded himself with really smart people.”_
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> Some of us knew better.

I admit it, I tried to take that sort of approach in 2016 (not sure about the “smart people,” but definitely the rest of it). At least, I can remember urging people to look for common ground - on issues such as infrastructure - where we could see progress that everyone wanted regardless of political leanings.

Yeah, I was WRONG.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/32 "2024-09-22T01:53:28Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> While never coming up with any “car” of their own.

What, a clown car doesn’t count?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/33 "2024-09-22T02:17:16Z")

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Well yeah, when it’s finally delivered…in two weeks.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/34 "2024-09-22T02:41:09Z")

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As I’ve said elsewhere, the MAGAts need to be kicked good and hard in the face – losing 70/30 or better – so they’ll realize that shit don’t fly in this country.

Alas, it ain’t gonna happen.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/35 "2024-09-22T03:44:16Z")

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> [@HeyHomie](#):
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> this county is so deeply red that I seriously doubt that haters are concerned about election fraud here.

I think that’s the place most likely to have those “self-appointed election monitors”. They just know (a) their area is full on red, and (b) the Democrats are stealing the election from them so they need to be vigilant.

> [@Chefguy](#):
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> I’m hoping that all the voters who stayed home the last time, assuming Clinton had it in the bag, won’t make that same mistake this time around. I know women voters will turn out, but I don’t have the same faith in students and young people in general, even though their futures are at stake. The right has done all they can to discourage voting and to disenfranchise people they don’t like, but hopefully it won’t swing the vote.

I think that our electoral college system has given red areas far too much power in the election. It really is time to get rid of the EC.

> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Honestly, I’m really hoping for a major cardiac event before election day. I’ll spring for the champagne.

I’m hoping for the same, although I fear that the instant the melon felon departs this mortal coil, his cultists, at the urging of his acolytes, will go on a killing spree, with their victims being their usual targets.

> [@Atamasama](#):
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> > [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> > If Harris wins, trump is not going to accept the results and I expect many isolated violent acts.
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> I don’t think there’s any rational reason to expect this. Trump supporters aren’t courageous enough to do this, and I don’t think they’ll be as motivated as they were in 2020, after seeing all the Jan 6 people in prison and now Trump yelling about election fraud is just a boring cliche.

I wish it were just a boring cliche. The problem is his followers believe it. And not being courageous enough to pull a re-do of January 6, 2021 is exactly what will lead to violent attacks. There will also be attacks on state legislatures.

> [@kayaker](#):
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> My last foray into Florida, I let a black woman in a hurry check out before me. Common courtesy. The cashier then chided me for “treating them like they was white”.

Was your response, “Call your manager over here rigt now”?

> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> My daughter told me one guy picks his kid up in a big Trumped out truck and tries to pass out stickers at the pick up line. The school doesn’t see fit to stop it.

Sounds like a call to the school district, police, or their local news station is in order.

> [@Smapti](#):
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> There’s a 100% chance that Trump will contest the outcome if he loses.

He’s already laid the groundwork for that. And, of course, he will use those court cases as reasons to delay his sentencing in one or more cases and actual trials in others.

> [@Smapti](#):
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> > [@Gatopescado](#):
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> > I don’t believe it will happen. He only wants to win to keep his fat feculent ass out of jail. He’s too stupid and lazy to actually ever do anything, and sane people downstream will thwart him if he actually tried to do anything.
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> For Trump? Correct.
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> For “Government Efficiency Commissioner” Elon Musk? The sky’s the limit. (Literally, cause his rockets keep exploding.)

You forget the melon felon is naught but a puppet of the laster evil person he admires who deigned to speak to him. If he manages to get Musk into the administration, Musk’s apparent dream of the United States of Orania just might come to fruition.

> [@Spoons](#):
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> What, a clown car doesn’t count?

With the republicans, as they proved from 2016 on, they’re all clown, no car.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/36 "2024-09-22T03:53:06Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Musk’s apparent dream of the United States of Orania just might come to fruition.

“Xnited Xtates of X”.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/37 "2024-09-22T04:23:05Z")

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I hate to inform you guys racism isn’t just southern, anymore.

It’s a USA problem. Fully.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/38 "2024-09-22T04:39:02Z")

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If the county contacts me about distributing ballots to nursing homes and the like, I’ll definitely do it, and also help with counting if they need me. I did it in 2022 and while it was a fairly dull job, it was so needed and I’m more than willing to do it again (and I would be willing to do it as a volunteer, but we’ll be paid).

While we counted, there were some people who were standing in the corner with lanyards declaring them to be poll watchers. They could come and go as they pleased, but they were not allowed to participate or interfere in any way. They were also doing this as volunteers.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/39 "2024-09-22T06:45:28Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> > [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> > …when his goons start rounding up a bunch of brown and black people for deportation.
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> I don’t believe it will happen. He only wants to win to keep his fat feculent ass out of jail. He’s too stupid and lazy to actually ever do anything, and sane people downstream will thwart him if he actually tried to do anything.
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> Wishful thinking, most likely.

If you’ve ever heard Stephen Miller talk about this, I think you’d have less doubt about it. He’s going to do it with glee. He gets a gleam in his eye when he talks about it.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/40 "2024-09-22T09:34:42Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> > [@Chefguy](#):
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> > Honestly, I’m really hoping for a major cardiac event before election day. I’ll spring for the champagne.
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> I’m hoping for the same, although I fear that the instant the melon felon departs this mortal coil, his cultists, at the urging of his acolytes, will go on a killing spree, with their victims being their usual targets.

I don’t think this will happen. The evil, destructive energy-- charisma, if you will-- radiates from him. It **IS** a cult of personality. There is no one who has the magnetic pull that he does. When he croaks off, it will be like cutting off the head of a snake. He hasn’t groomed a replacement, and there is no one waiting in the wings to take his place, thank goodness.

The MAGAs will still hold their bigoted, ignorant, cruel beliefs as they always have and always will, but IMHO the movement will be like a plane that has lost engine power and become a glider, ultimately descending. There may be isolated acts of violence, but I don’t believe there will be enough organized energy to keep the movement going in any unified way.

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