# I am dreading Election day **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 21, 2024, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558 "2024-09-21T16:06:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/41 "2024-09-22T10:10:27Z")
I had not heard the below quotes from trump when I created this thread. They do not make me feel better. This is regarding mass deportations. "Trump’s remarks were made during a [campaign rally in Mosinee, Wisconsin](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-wisconsin-rally-attendee-medic-1950353), and align with the [Republican](https://www.newsweek.com/topic/republican) National Committee’s newly released 2024 platform, which calls for aggressive immigration enforcement and [mass deportations](https://www.newsweek.com/immigration-court-backlog-deportations-us-border-1938066). “And ya know getting them out will be a bloody story,” Trump told supporters on Saturday, referencing plans for large-scale removal of undocumented immigrants. “[They] should have never been allowed to come into our country. Nobody checked them.” ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/42 "2024-09-22T10:18:28Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I don’t think this will happen. The evil, destructive energy-- charisma, if you will-- radiates from him. It **IS** a cult of personality. There is no one who has the magnetic pull that he does. Yeah. Various Republicans have been _trying_ over and over, but fortunately nobody has been able to push the buttons Trump has managed to press. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/43 "2024-09-22T10:33:59Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > > [@Monty](#): > > > > I’m hoping for the same, although I fear that the instant the melon felon departs this mortal coil, his cultists, at the urging of his acolytes, will go on a killing spree, with their victims being their usual targets. > > I don’t think this will happen. I think it will happen. It just won’t be organized. Some of his cultists will blame their usual targets for his death, regardless of how it happened and they will do something to exact revenge. I think they’ll do the same if he loses the election, too. I should have said _some of his cultists_. > [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > And ya know getting them out will be a bloody story,” Trump told supporters on Saturday, referencing plans for large-scale removal of undocumented immigrants. “[They] should have never been allowed to come into our country. Nobody checked them.” And here we see the glee at the prospect of their usual targets dying at their hands. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/44 "2024-09-22T11:42:27Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > I hate to inform you guys racism isn’t just southern, anymore. > > It’s a USA problem. Fully. Oh yeah, but the south is a third world shithole ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/45 "2024-09-22T12:08:04Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > So I’m dreading Election Day no matter who wins. Me, too. For all the same reasons. > [@kayaker](#): > > My last foray into Florida, I let a black woman in a hurry check out before me. Common courtesy. The cashier then chided me for “treating them like they was white”. Holy fucking shit. Where in Florida? A friend recently moved to Florida, and i visited him last winter. I wasn’t comfortable, but i didn’t see anything that blatant. > [@Czarcasm](#): > > . It will be yet another case of Republicans screaming that the Democratic car doesn’t run, while those same Republicans are pouring sugar in the gas tank This is why we need to win downballot, too. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/46 "2024-09-22T12:13:18Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Where in Florida? Gainesville, where my son lives. My daughter visits him pretty often and has encountered similar things. I know there are racists all over, but IME it is out in the open and in your face in the US south. (Admittedly I haven’t been there in years, by choice) ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/47 "2024-09-22T12:19:03Z")
Yeah, my neighbor has posted an enormous sign saying, “ **TRUMP** Take America Back”. Back from whom, pray tell? Or actually, please don’t, please keep that thought hidden. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/48 "2024-09-22T12:22:54Z")
I attended a training for poll workers last week it was all retired women plus me and a chunk of the conversation was about guns in polling stations and what to do during a mass shooting. It’s depressing to hear someone’s grandmother say, “I think your only hope is to charge the gunman.” ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/49 "2024-09-22T12:29:31Z")
I’m a retired woman and just volunteered to work the polls on election day. But i live in a purple town in a blue state, everyone knows the Democrats will win all the national positions in the election, and while i suppose an isolated nut is always possible, I’m expecting everything to run smoothly. Anyway, if there’s a mad gunman i suppose I’ll die. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/50 "2024-09-22T12:36:53Z")
I’m in rural Virginia and people show up at the polls carrying guns (which is not allowed) and the workers have to decide whether to let them vote or confront an armed man, or call the sheriff and wait for a response. Last election, they kicked a guy out of a polling station for creating a disturbance and he said, “I’m going home for some target practice, I’ll be back.” It’s fucking ridiculous and it’s not the civilized world. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/51 "2024-09-22T12:57:44Z")
I’m in a red county in a blue state and I’ve been promoted this year to Chief Judge in a red precinct (there will be from 4-6 of us). What worries me most are the potential intimidation tactics, either outside the polling station doors or by official Challengers groundlessly demanding identity checks of those who appear unworthy to them. And of course I worry endlessly about threats to our marginalized citizens should the results go in favor of the bad guys. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/52 "2024-09-22T13:30:10Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Gainesville, where my son lives. My daughter visits him pretty often and has encountered similar things. > > I know there are racists all over, but IME it is out in the open and in your face in the US south. (Admittedly I haven’t been there in years, by choice) Not that many years ago in Bay County, Florida, I heard a man who was looking to buy a house in that county tell my father, “I can’t have my children go to school with no n~”. Yeah, it’s not exactly a secret that open racism isn’t seen as a bad thing in some areas of the state. > [@puzzlegal](#): > > Yeah, my neighbor has posted an enormous sign saying, “ **TRUMP** Take America Back”. Back from whom, pray tell? Or actually, please don’t, please keep that thought hidden. Not “back **from** ” but rather “back **to** ”. They want to take America back to the days before the Civil Rights Era. Some even want to take it back to the days before the southern insurrection. ---
**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/53 "2024-09-22T15:24:23Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > I’m worried sick and I’m pissed off. I’m pissed that we are in this situation. The worst part is that I don’t even really know who exactly to be pissed at. Who should have protected us from the threat that I sincerely believe trump is. I believe trump has been a fairly obvious criminal his entire adult life with regards to his financial dealings and his taxes. And then there are the events that took place on January 6th and all of the stolen documents. I feel completely let down by the people who should have done their jobs and protected us. I’m with you on this 100%. 10 years ago I thought we had a solid, strong democracy. Now I know it’s teetering on the brink. About this election though, I’m strangely optimistic. I just have this feeling that Kamala’s victory is going to be strong enough to make it impossible for Republican shenanigans to overturn it. Don’t count on my feelings though. I’m a fan of Cleveland sports teams and I always feel like this prior to the game. It’s only after that I realize I was stupidly optimistic. ---
**Author:** ![Bumbazine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bumbazine/32/362_2.png) [@Bumbazine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bumbazine)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/54 "2024-09-22T19:23:20Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > > [@Bumbazine](#): > > > > If everything is calm after the election i may well sell the rifle. > > It’s a conundrum. You just might sell it to someone that you bought it to defend yourself from. > > It’s a very sad situation. I’m not worried. Anybody who would want to shoot me will already own an AR-15. They aren’t gonna want to shoot me with a sissified bolt action rifle. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/55 "2024-09-22T19:38:11Z")
The thing about fascists is that you have to worry about what they’ll do if they win an election and what they’ll do if they lose an election. ---
**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/56 "2024-09-22T21:40:46Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > The thing about fascists is that you have to worry about what they’ll do if they win an election and what they’ll do if they lose an election. This is profoundly true. I am not worried for myself. I’m old and tough and at the end of my life pretty much. Although I suppose I too could be in for a rough ride given the unpredictable circumstances/outcomes. But I am concerned for younger folks and for all those who will be negatively impacted. I am dreading the day itself only because I will be a basket of nerves. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/57 "2024-09-22T23:14:48Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > The MAGAs will still hold their bigoted, ignorant, cruel beliefs as they always have and always will, but IMHO the movement will be like a plane that has lost engine power and become a glider, ultimately descending. Yes, the taste for transgression will remain: reactionaries gotta react to the libs. Never Trumper conservative David French explains: > The reason is plain: The yearslong elevation of figures like Mark Robinson and the many other outrageous MAGA personalities, along with the devolution of people in MAGA’s inner orbit — JD Vance, [Elon Musk](https://www.wsj.com/politics/donald-trump-elon-musk-alliance-d1fe43e3), Lindsey Graham and so very many others — has established beyond doubt that Trump has changed the Republican Party and Republican Christians far more than they have changed him. > In nine years, countless Republican primary voters have moved from voting for Trump in spite of his transgressions to rejecting anyone who doesn’t transgress. If you’re not transgressive, you’re suspicious. Decency is countercultural in the Republican Party. It’s seen as a rebuke of Trump. But I agree that it will be hard to replicate Trump and it isn’t just a matter of charisma. Making the jump from no political experience to the Presidency isn’t straightforward. I can’t think of anyone who has the reality show platform that Trump had. It was all fake, but most shows don’t portray a set of contestants currying favor with an authority figure week after week. I can imagine another actor being elected to the House, Senate or Governorship in either party, but the political record that those positions leave behind is enfeebling. I would expect the transgressive tail of the GOP to continue wagging the dog though. And some of Trump’s pernicious habits will be adopted: Vance is already learning to lie with abandon. David French cite, gifted link, not that it’s amazing. [https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/22/opinion/mark-robinson-maga-trump.html?unlocked\_article\_code=1.Mk4.Hoax.icC9b7fxFa1m&smid=url-share](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/22/opinion/mark-robinson-maga-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Mk4.Hoax.icC9b7fxFa1m&smid=url-share) ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2024, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/58 "2024-09-23T03:12:26Z")
> [@Bumbazine](#): > > My biggest fear is of republican election officials in various states ‘cooking the books’ on election results to get their cult leader back into the white house. The more likely scenario is maliciously delayed certification. They don’t even have to fake a Turmp win, just deny a legitimate Harris win. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2024, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/59 "2024-09-23T03:14:18Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > The more likely scenario is maliciously delayed certification. They don’t even have to fake a Turmp win, just deny a legitimate Harris win. That’s not how any of this works. There is no “whoops, we decided this election doesn’t count” button that Republicans can use to throw out electoral votes for Harris. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2024, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/60 "2024-09-23T03:24:43Z")
Don’t be so sure. If nefariously minded election officials refuse to certify enough vote counts, their plan is to force a congregational election based on hard, calendar date triggers. The popular and electoral count would be ignored and a state-by-state delegation vote would take precedence. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558.md?page=4)