# I am dreading Election day

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 21, 2024, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558 "2024-09-21T16:06:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/161 "2024-09-27T18:19:46Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> A fascist takeover would result in Canada being swiftly conquered and the population exterminated as evil “liberals”. Or just nuked.
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> Same goes for Mexico, but with a higher likelihood of going straight to the nukes.

I’m not too worried about Canada being nuked, most of our major cities are far too close to the US border. The fallout issues would affect huge swathes of the northern US, and I think even Trump could be made to understand that before pushing the button. But an invasion? That’s a real possibility if he gets his panties sufficiently bunched.

Now, nuking Mexico is a possibility, as they have a lot more cities that are much farther south of the US border. I could see some of those southern cities getting a nuke. Hell, Mexico City is far enough south that I don’t think Trump would hesitate to nuke it.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/162 "2024-09-27T18:28:09Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> We already casually support the genocide of the Palestinian people and to suggest that maybe we stop is a fringe idea in America. That’s just one of the many horrific things we do that would stop if we collapse.

I won’t get into the weeds on your assertion, but a victory by the America-hating fuckstick would lead to the complete fulfillment of any such genocide long before the country collapsed.

There’s a line from _Macbeth_ that resonates here: _If it **[Macbeth’s apotheosis]** were done when 'tis **[Duncan’s assassination]** done, then 'twere well it were done quickly._

In the accelerationist view (as propounded by you above), I sense there may be a temptation to analogize that quote to an unfavorable outcome of the 2024 election, thus _If it **[the collapse of America]** were done when 'tis **[a second election of the America-hating fuckstick]** done, then 'twere well it were done quickly._

But it won’t be. The country may stumble into an irredeemable decline that will inevitably lead to collapse (and by extension, cessation of all the bad things America is doing, or is responsible for happening), but full collapse is gonna take a while. And during that while a LOT of unnecessary and avoidable suffering and misery will be happening to people all over the world; suffering and misery that are a direct result of the decline/collapse that you appear to be characterizing as some sort of silver lining.

ETA: I’m not 100% confident that **[Macbeth’s apotheosis]** is the correct interpretation of that antecedent “it”; it might mean **[Lady Macbeth’s nagging]**.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/163 "2024-09-27T18:47:05Z")

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Typical pit thread. It starts with heartfelt personal feelings and by post 162 has devolved into musings on a USA-free future with Shakespearean analogies.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/164 "2024-09-27T20:08:23Z")

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Yes. Let’s get back on track.

I am not dreading election day. This Band-Aid must be ripped off. If the worst happens, good people will deal with it. SCOTUS will of course make that very difficult, but we have to have some faith in justice and the true heart of liberty and the American people.

The worst of them are out numbered. Not by much, but they are.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/165 "2024-09-27T20:10:25Z")

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They are also cheating.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/166 "2024-09-27T20:24:19Z")

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If Biden had said early in his term that he wasn’t running, he would have been a lame duck and wouldn’t have gotten half the stuff done that he has.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/167 "2024-09-27T20:26:17Z")

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By the way, it isn’t just J6 that needs to be guarded, it’s the meeting of the electors in the states.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/168 "2024-09-27T20:28:26Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> If Biden had said early in his term that he wasn’t running, he would have been a lame duck and wouldn’t have gotten half the stuff done that he has.

And if he had dropped out too soon, the GOP would have had time to … rebalance and come up with other ways to try to take down Harris. Harris coming in late caught them (well, at least Trump) completely off guard. Trump had to come up with a disparaging nickname after all, AND ON SUCH SHORT NOTICE!111!!!

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**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/169 "2024-09-27T20:33:25Z")

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Right after I made my post I did a search and was able to verify that I am still registered to vote. Now I just have to verify when early voting starts here, and that the place I usually do so will be open this year.

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**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/170 "2024-09-27T20:44:50Z")

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In NC, [early voting begins Thursday, Oct. 17, 2024 and ends at 3 p.m. Saturday, Nov. 2, 2024](https://www.ncsbe.gov/voting/vote-early-person).

[Search for your site.](https://vt.ncsbe.gov/EVSite/)

I know they moved mine for this year.

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**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/171 "2024-09-27T20:48:28Z")

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> [@LurkMeister](#):
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> Right after I made my post I did a search and was able to verify that I am still registered to vote.

Well done, you! 🙂 I think this is what we all have to do this year.

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**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/172 "2024-09-27T20:58:46Z")

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My usual place is still there. I can take the bus there and back easily.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/173 "2024-09-27T21:16:25Z")

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Both my Wife and I are are good voter registration wise. Same place for 30 years. And Colorado mails us a ballot.

We both work for the county, so we hand it to the Clerk when we are finished with our choices.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2024, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/174 "2024-09-28T02:06:22Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> Well done, you! 🙂 I think this is what we all have to do this year.

After a disastrous experience in 2014, 90% of voters in my county – Maricopa – are on the permanent early voters list, PEVL. The ballots are sent to your home and can be returned by mail or at a number of drop-offs. The county registrar sends out push notices, both email and text, that the ballot is being prepared, then when it will be sent (October 9th this year), when it has been received, that the signature has been verified, and finally that it has been counted. Unlike most counties Maricopa counts early ballots as they come in but doesn’t release any results until the polls close.

It’s all very comforting.

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2024, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/175 "2024-09-28T02:28:11Z")

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Our town is down to one precinct. It’ll probably be fine; we have never had lines when we had a whopping 3 precints. My concern is Hubster is supposed to have gotten an applcation for  
permanent mail in voting. We haven’t gotten it, so I need to call and see whats up.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2024, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/176 "2024-09-28T03:04:32Z")

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> [@ratatoskK](#):
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> There’s going to be violence no matter who wins. Well actually there already is plenty of violence but it’s going to be everywhere in a month or so

See my posts in this thread and on the topic to see my take on it as to what violence there will be, when it will happen, who will be doing it, and who the victims will be.

> [@Horatius](#):
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> Mexico City is far enough south that I don’t think Trump would hesitate to nuke it.

If one of his ~~flacks~~ advisors convinces him that will make Mexico pay for the wall, the order would go out immediately.

And, I’m convinced, will be ignored by our military leadership.

> [@E-DUB](#):
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> By the way, it isn’t just J6 that needs to be guarded, it’s the meeting of the electors in the states.

AND the voters and pollworkers at polling locations.

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**Post date:** [September 28, 2024, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/177 "2024-09-28T05:00:12Z")

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In Iowa, one can use this website. All registered Iowa voters can be found here, except for some people who participate in a “Safe At Home” program because they do not want their location accessible online.

[https://sos.iowa.gov/elections/voterreg/regtovote/search.aspx](https://sos.iowa.gov/elections/voterreg/regtovote/search.aspx)

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**Post date:** [September 28, 2024, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/178 "2024-09-28T05:40:32Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> AND the voters and pollworkers at polling locations.

This is my biggest fear at the moment.

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**Post date:** [September 28, 2024, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/179 "2024-09-28T10:30:50Z")

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Mine, too. I won’t be surprised if the magatflatearthers are armed and “protecting” the area exactly one inch outside the required distance from the polls. They’ll still be able to intimidate people they deem to not be “American enough” to vote.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2024, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/180 "2024-09-28T15:59:48Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> And, I’m convinced, will be ignored by our military leadership.

Which presumably is why replacing them is part of Project 2025, as I understand it. Once the professionals have been replaced by fanatics and toadies they’ll nuke whomever Trump or his successors asks.

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