# I am finding it hard to be patriotic these days

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**Created:** [October 27, 2025, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-finding-it-hard-to-be-patriotic-these-days/1024319 "2025-10-27T03:03:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2025, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-finding-it-hard-to-be-patriotic-these-days/1024319/15 "2025-10-31T17:18:24Z")

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I think about this thread by **Babale** , which was very well-written:

He pointed out that, unfortunately, part of the political left basically “ceded” patriotism to the right and let the right improperly claim patriotism for itself. Although many liberals often care about America as much if not even more than conservatives, they sort of allowed the message to take root that only the right-wing’s patriotism “counts” as real patriotism and that liberals actually don’t like America.

And of course, some folks genuinely have indeed felt their patriotism wane and dampen. I feel much less patriotic than before. But still, image and PR matters.

> [@Should the American Left reclaim Patriotism?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-the-american-left-reclaim-patriotism/1004816/4):
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> Can you define ‘nationalism’? What precisely are you worried that we would start doing if we got too patriotic? I agree that you don’t want to let any political idea - love or appreciation for your own country being one but that goes for anything we might believe in - override our reason. So that would be my reason for opposing hyper-patriotism - the risk that we would be blinded to real flaws that we’d otherwise be able to rationally examine. But I’m not sure if that’s what you mean by ‘nati…

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