# I am incredibly embarassed by our president's rude and disrespectful behavior

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 24, 2003, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-incredibly-embarassed-by-our-presidents-rude-and-disrespectful-behavior/214960 "2003-11-24T06:51:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![TaxGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@TaxGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TaxGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-incredibly-embarassed-by-our-presidents-rude-and-disrespectful-behavior/214960/21 "2003-11-24T16:26:06Z")

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Great, I’m sure **Reeder** and **DtC** will be glad to have **suezeekay** take some of their workload off of them.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-incredibly-embarassed-by-our-presidents-rude-and-disrespectful-behavior/214960/22 "2003-11-24T20:31:46Z")

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Oh please, stop acting like it’s a bunch of whiners. If you invited a guest, don’t you think you’d be pissed off if they (or their chauffeur) drove their SUV into your rosebushes while arriving?

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**Author:** ![Breezy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b3f665/32.png) [@Breezy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Breezy)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-incredibly-embarassed-by-our-presidents-rude-and-disrespectful-behavior/214960/23 "2003-11-24T21:54:51Z")

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Why is this In IMHO?

Shouldn’t this be in the Pit or in MPSIMS?

What opinion are you asking of anyone?

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**Author:** ![Jpeg\_Jones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/4bbf92/32.png) [@Jpeg\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jpeg_Jones)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-incredibly-embarassed-by-our-presidents-rude-and-disrespectful-behavior/214960/24 "2003-11-24T22:01:45Z")

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Pictures?

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**Author:** ![occ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8c91f0/32.png) [@occ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/occ)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-incredibly-embarassed-by-our-presidents-rude-and-disrespectful-behavior/214960/25 "2003-11-24T22:24:55Z")

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Yeah, you might, but nobody’s provided a reliable cite that this actually happened – remember?

I’m betting any damage to the gardens was minimal, or otherwise considered acceptable within the scope of the visit.

I bet the Queen wasn’t “furious”.

I bet the head gardener didn’t cry.

If someone has a better cite, then lay it on us, brother. Otherwise, I’ll file this with other dubious tabloidery.

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**Author:** ![sirtonyh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@sirtonyh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sirtonyh)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-incredibly-embarassed-by-our-presidents-rude-and-disrespectful-behavior/214960/26 "2003-11-24T22:40:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Revtim \*  
> \*\*So you are saying Lex Luther wasn’t elected president? \*\*

No, he wasn’t. The Supreme Court made him president 😉

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**Author:** ![FisherQueen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@FisherQueen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FisherQueen)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-incredibly-embarassed-by-our-presidents-rude-and-disrespectful-behavior/214960/27 "2003-11-24T23:06:06Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Revtim \*  
> \*\*So you are saying Lex Luther wasn’t elected president? \*\*

You know what’s sad? I really, honestly, and with no sarcasm whatsoever, think that Lex Luthor, if he weren’t fictional, would probably be a better president than George W. Bush.

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**Author:** ![BuckleberryFerry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5f9b8f/32.png) [@BuckleberryFerry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BuckleberryFerry)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-incredibly-embarassed-by-our-presidents-rude-and-disrespectful-behavior/214960/28 "2003-11-24T23:09:16Z")

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> \*Originally posted by matt\_mcl \*  
> \*\*Oh please, stop acting like it’s a bunch of whiners. If you invited a guest, don’t you think you’d be pissed off if they (or their chauffeur) drove their SUV into your rosebushes while arriving? \*\*

Yes, if I hadn’t PAINTED THE PARKING SPACE IN THE ROSEBUSHES. It’s not like they had absolutely no clue the helecopter was going to land there. The big H didn’t just drop out of the sky (so to speak). This landing had to have been planned and approved by several people, I’m sure. I doubt it was just “Oh, dear, there’s a helicopter landing…OH, NO, IT’S LANDING ON THE LAWN!”

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-incredibly-embarassed-by-our-presidents-rude-and-disrespectful-behavior/214960/29 "2003-11-24T23:10:28Z")

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I too am incredibly embarrassed by the man who sits in the White House, but as far as the list of reasons for my embarrassment, the state of the gardens of the Queen of England and the emotional health of her pet flamingos come in somewhere between numbers seven and eight thousand.

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**Author:** ![MinniePurl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@MinniePurl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MinniePurl)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-incredibly-embarassed-by-our-presidents-rude-and-disrespectful-behavior/214960/30 "2003-11-24T23:18:03Z")

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My message to the Queen: Hey, it could be worse. He just wrecked your garden and your home; he’s wrecking our entire country.

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**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-incredibly-embarassed-by-our-presidents-rude-and-disrespectful-behavior/214960/31 "2003-11-24T23:32:31Z")

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I loved this bit

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> The mass of gadgetry meant the Royals couldn’t get a decent TV picture during the visit.

I now have this image of QE2 and Philip fiddling with the TV set during _Countdown_[sup]_[/sup]. Don’t they have cable at Buckingham Palace?  
[sup]_ Venerable British gameshow famously popular with senior citizens, reportedly including the Queen herself[/sup]

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-incredibly-embarassed-by-our-presidents-rude-and-disrespectful-behavior/214960/32 "2003-11-24T23:33:42Z")

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The Royal Family is littered with military members. Helicopters are not an unusual vehicle in their entourage. I find it hard to believe they have never landed on the lawns of the Palace before. Indeed, I imagine they would have a special area for such visits.

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**Author:** ![fortytwo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f9ae1b/32.png) [@fortytwo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fortytwo)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-incredibly-embarassed-by-our-presidents-rude-and-disrespectful-behavior/214960/33 "2003-11-24T23:44:18Z")

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This is probably just a bit of shit stirring by the Sunday Mirror. It’s a sister paper of the Daily Mirror. Yes, the same Daily Mirror that sneaked a reporter into Buck House pretending to be a servant. Royalty and the Mirror Group are not talking to one another right now. (Except perhaps through their respective lawyers 🙂 )  
V

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**Author:** ![bagkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ab992/32.png) [@bagkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bagkitty)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-incredibly-embarassed-by-our-presidents-rude-and-disrespectful-behavior/214960/34 "2003-11-25T00:15:56Z")

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There is a simple solution, though… invite the Queen over the the U.S. for a visit, and she can let her corgies loose in the rose garden to uproot the plants and defecate all over the lawns…

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**Author:** ![Forbin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Forbin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Forbin)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-incredibly-embarassed-by-our-presidents-rude-and-disrespectful-behavior/214960/35 "2003-11-25T00:41:54Z")

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> \*Originally posted by bagkitty \*  
> \*\*There is a simple solution, though… invite the Queen over the the U.S. for a visit, and she can let her corgies loose in the rose garden to uproot the plants and defecate all over the lawns… \*\*

Well, 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. _is actually_ a brownstone. We had to paint it white after the Brits burned it.

😉

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**Author:** ![Ell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47774/32.png) [@Ell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ell)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-incredibly-embarassed-by-our-presidents-rude-and-disrespectful-behavior/214960/36 "2003-11-25T01:41:47Z")

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They should have had the helicopters hover over the lawn and Bush could’ve commando-rolled out of them, onto the lawn. I would’ve liked to see that.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-incredibly-embarassed-by-our-presidents-rude-and-disrespectful-behavior/214960/37 "2003-11-25T01:50:19Z")

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Moving this to the BBQ Pit.

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**Author:** ![wakimika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f08c70/32.png) [@wakimika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wakimika)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-incredibly-embarassed-by-our-presidents-rude-and-disrespectful-behavior/214960/38 "2003-11-25T02:19:14Z")

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I’m far more interested in the chef debacle. Than can’t be true, can it?

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-incredibly-embarassed-by-our-presidents-rude-and-disrespectful-behavior/214960/39 "2003-11-25T02:27:25Z")

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> \*Originally posted by wakimika \*  
> \*\*I’m far more interested in the chef debacle. Than can’t be true, can it? \*\*

Can you elaborate on this please?

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**Author:** ![moriah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@moriah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moriah)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-incredibly-embarassed-by-our-presidents-rude-and-disrespectful-behavior/214960/40 "2003-11-25T02:34:45Z")

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MY GOD! WON’T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE **FLAMINGOS**?!

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