# I am leaving SDMB

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-leaving-sdmb/191856>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 30, 2003, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-leaving-sdmb/191856 "2003-07-30T06:01:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-leaving-sdmb/191856/61 "2003-07-31T04:14:35Z")

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**Zenster** , thanks for quoting that post- I remember him now.

Gah. Buh-bye.

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**Author:** ![dreamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6bbea6/32.png) [@dreamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dreamer)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-leaving-sdmb/191856/62 "2003-07-31T04:16:07Z")

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> \*Originally posted by iampunha \*  
> **Nomadic\_One** , assuming you’re still here you might read **dreamer** ’s GD thread [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=132292).

Only one song comes to mind…  
_memories - light the corners of my mind. Misty water color memories, of the way we were…_

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-leaving-sdmb/191856/63 "2003-07-31T04:32:06Z")

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Unlike so many of the fundamentalist Christians who post here, at least Nomadic\_One wasn’t rude.

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> JerseyDiamond: Mangetout, that’s between him, Polycarp, and God.

Actually, J.D., what Polycarp believes is between him and God. What Nomadic\_One posts here is for everyone or anybody to comment on as they see fit. I think Nomadic\_One probably meant well. But we don’t need to be managed by you. Feel free to try. 😃

Nomadic\_One, I wish that you had loved us enough to get to know us.

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**Author:** ![lel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8797f3/32.png) [@lel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lel)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-leaving-sdmb/191856/64 "2003-07-31T04:46:25Z")

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Goodbye, **Nomadic\_One**. It is good that you are not letting this board get in the way of what God wants you to do.

May God, if there be a god, bless you, if there be blessings.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-leaving-sdmb/191856/65 "2003-07-31T05:49:01Z")

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> \*Originally posted by flood \*  
> \*\*I like the way you’ve managed to incorporate Tool into this discussion. Points to you from me (if that means anything).
> 
> [hijack]Did you know that the song was about Ron Hubbard and not about Jesus? At least that’s the way I interpret it…[/hijack] \*\*

[further hijack] Thanks for the props. I love that song and it jumped immediately to mind while I was reading this thread. I just couldn’t resist the temptation. 😃

So far as the meaning of the song goes, I’ve never thought it to be about Jesus. Christ never “ranted and pointed his finger at everything but his heart” so far as I know (I’m an atheist and only know the very basics of Christian literature, I might be wrong) and he _is_ seen as divine by a very large proportion of the Earth’s population, so that’s two lines in the song that would seem to rule him out as the inspiration.

Also, listening to Aenima’s lyrics, it wouldn’t surprise me if it were about Hubbard considering the “Fuck L. Ron Hubbard and fuck all his clones” line. [/fh]

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**Author:** ![kung\_fu\_lola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kung\_fu\_lola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kung_fu_lola)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-leaving-sdmb/191856/66 "2003-07-31T06:14:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Nomadic\_One \*  
> \*\* I have tried to witness but to no avail. \*\*

To quote my brother, who has been reading over my shoulder;  
“Dude… that’s because SD is about _fighting_ ignorance, not _embracing_ it, duh!”

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**Author:** ![Cardinal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardinal/32/4000_2.png) [@Cardinal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardinal)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-leaving-sdmb/191856/67 "2003-07-31T06:16:45Z")

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Go with God.

I don’t know what you could have realistically expected here, though. Did you think you could really do a lot of convincing on subjects like religion with people you’ve never even met, and aren’t in any kind of actual relationship with?

I personally have never seen anyone argued into something like spiritual views. We’ve had furious arguments here about things like whether an average person could become a major league hitter in one year of hard work, and even then I was amazed when the OP was finally convinced that it wasn’t possible and admitted it.

Given the difficulties with something stupid like that, what could you expect?

And…

This is another Christian talking. Remember that being a loudmouth does not prove that you’re right, that you love God, or that you’re anything much more than rude or inexperienced. I don’t know that you are these things, but I noticed a name there that you complimented…

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**Author:** ![Violet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ebca7d/32.png) [@Violet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Violet)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-leaving-sdmb/191856/68 "2003-07-31T07:26:25Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Nomadic\_One \*  
> **… I have tried to witness but to no avail. …**

Marvin Gaye did a song, “Can I Get a Witness?”

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-leaving-sdmb/191856/69 "2003-07-31T07:27:05Z")

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Good luck, **Nomadic\_One**. FWIW, I think you meant well.

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-leaving-sdmb/191856/70 "2003-07-31T12:07:29Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Mukluk \*  
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> After all, my personal relationship with Christ is something I cherish and I’m not about to open it up to scorn and ridicule by someone who just can’t/doesn’t/won’t appreciate it.

Just curious, but why not? Isn’t it strong enough to withstand the slings and arrows of outrageous ridicule from an internet message board? Perhaps you are not familiar with Romans 8, v 31-39:

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> 31What, then, shall we say in response to this? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all–how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? 33Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. 34Who is he that condemns? Christ Jesus, who died–more than that, who was raised to life–is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us. 35Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 36As it is written:  
> “For your sake we face death all day long;  
> we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.” 37No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Read those last two verses again. Do we here at the SDMB hove powers beyond “anything else in all creation” to seperate you from your faith?

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**Author:** ![DirkGntly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DirkGntly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DirkGntly)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-leaving-sdmb/191856/71 "2003-07-31T13:38:48Z")

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I would hope that some of the “open-minded” folks here on the SDMB would also remember that the Christian folks who are witnessing are following Christ’s “great commission.” He said to “go forth and preach the gospel to every creature.” Unfortunately, a lot of Christians tend to forget the second part where he tells them to shake the dust off their feet in towns where they won’t be heard - basically not to waste their time if they won’t be heard the first time.

_May I make an aside observation here? A lot of folks who claim to be “enlightened” on this board will read Neitzche or whatever else, but won’t take time to read Mark, Luke or John, or anything by Paul, and will then still make judgements. That’s not exactly intellectually honest, is it?_ (I expect to be thoroughly blasted now.)

- Dirk

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-leaving-sdmb/191856/72 "2003-07-31T14:06:02Z")

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Blasted? No. But firmly told you’re wrong. Most of the atheists on the board who regularly debate with the theists know scripture as well as, and in many cases better than, the likes of Nomadic\_One, His4Ever and the Jersey Twins.

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**Author:** ![Greenback](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/2bfe46/32.png) [@Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greenback)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-leaving-sdmb/191856/73 "2003-07-31T14:39:37Z")

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Take care **Nomadic\_One**. I’d like to echo **Diogenes the Cynic** in saying I think you meant well, but obviously this didn’t go as well as you had hoped.

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**Author:** ![DirkGntly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DirkGntly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DirkGntly)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-leaving-sdmb/191856/74 "2003-07-31T14:51:09Z")

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Let me clarify, **Homebrew** , I said “a lot” not “all” or “most”…I realize there are exceptions, or else I would have used “all,” etc…  
**Polycarp** , for instance, is an exception on the other side of the fence - well-read and well-rounded. I am referring to the single-minded athiests, agnostics, pagans, etc. who haven’t bothered. I find those folks to be as unpleasant as the single-minded witnessers.

- Dirk

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-leaving-sdmb/191856/75 "2003-07-31T18:36:24Z")

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How does one listen with a _voice_, anyways? Shouldn’t he have said, listen TO a small voice?

😕

Let’s see if it works:

[sub]Esprix…you will give me your credit card numbers…listen to me…[/sub]  
_sits back and waits_

😃

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-leaving-sdmb/191856/76 "2003-07-31T19:29:19Z")

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I don’t think you can even find “a lot” of the non-theist posters who fit your description. “A few,” perhaps, but not many or “a lot.”

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**Author:** ![LauraLittlePony](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19adc/32.png) [@LauraLittlePony](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LauraLittlePony)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-leaving-sdmb/191856/77 "2003-07-31T20:11:16Z")

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What??? One of THESE?? Gah! I left the icky My Little Pony message board to AVOID stuff like this!! Well, at least I haven’t encountered any of the other nuisances. Such as gestapo-moderation and 100 threads about Harry Potter and complete lack of any ability to spell. And scammers, but I didn’t think there was much threat here.

Goes to show these things can happen anywhere.

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-leaving-sdmb/191856/78 "2003-07-31T22:41:08Z")

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_{reaches for wallet}_

What? Who said that?

😕

Esprix

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**Author:** ![Petter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dbc845/32.png) [@Petter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Petter)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2003, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-leaving-sdmb/191856/79 "2003-08-11T18:45:24Z")

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[… and](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&postid=3827314#post3827314) [he’s](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&postid=3827435#post3827435) [back!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&postid=3824704#post3824704)

Who had less than two weeks?

Maybe he’s not really back, though. Maybe he’s retroactively witnessing by changing his .sig 😛  
(His link doesn’t work for me so I can’t say for sure, of course)

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**Author:** ![SkyBum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@SkyBum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkyBum)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2003, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-leaving-sdmb/191856/80 "2003-08-11T20:02:07Z")

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- I \* think that “listen with a small voice” means to quiet oneself, and \* listen \*.

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