# I am no one's sock puppet either. **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [December 22, 2000, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-no-ones-sock-puppet-either/46875 "2000-12-22T17:26:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![No\_Bones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ba8739/32.png) [@No\_Bones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/No_Bones)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2000, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-no-ones-sock-puppet-either/46875/1 "2000-12-22T17:26:36Z")
I am merely a long time lurker who has formed opinions about some of the posters here. pepperlandgirl has accused me of being someone else. I am No Bones. Period. I didn’t know where to post this, but I thought this would be the place to defend myself. It’s not necessary to be a sock puppet to realize that some posters are obnoxious twits. Not that I would name anyone. This is not the pit, after all. ---
**Author:** ![Mu\_Mu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Mu\_Mu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mu_Mu)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2000, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-no-ones-sock-puppet-either/46875/2 "2000-12-22T17:44:35Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Coldfire_ > **Cannon, if you’d lurked more carefully, you’d have realised that all conversation regarding sock puppets and trolls takes place off the boards, by means of e-mails with the moderators and administrators.** He also said this, just a couple of days earlier > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Coldfire \* > **Ah, Mu Mu is back again as well. When the word “moderator” and “fascist”/“hypocrite” appear in the same thread, he is one of the li’l critters that come out of hybernation. How fun. Did you bring all your friends too, Mu Mu?** ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2000, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-no-ones-sock-puppet-either/46875/3 "2000-12-22T17:49:28Z")
> [@](#): > > pepperlandgirl has accused me of being someone else. WTF?! I insist you find an exact thread and exact quote that I ever accused you of being a sock puppet. Pronto. I do _not_ appreciate baseless accusations against my person. The only thing I have ever said to you or about you was “at the risk of feeding a troll…WTF?” in this [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=46186) And if you didn’t notice, my post was the least flamatory. It was just a statement of confusion. ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2000, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-no-ones-sock-puppet-either/46875/4 "2000-12-22T18:11:25Z")
Let’s see, No Bones, in your nine posts here you’ve posted a list of sock puppets, along with the statement that andros knows something about it. When that thread was closed, you started a nearly identical one that was also closed. You have never explained why andros would be at all involved. In another thread that also got closed you said: > [@](#): > > None of these posters did what you say. > None of them were showing up just in anti-mod threads. > > Check them yourself. > Here’s the link to all of them. > Scylla - You are a fortune teller - What does this mean? > They were posting quietly until banned, just for being socks, not for any other reason. > And they had 365 posts among them, more than the vast majority of posters. So they were simple honest posters, nothing like the monsters you describe. So why rule out Andros, when he knows so much about them? > > The fact that Andros uses a different IP for “his own” posts doesn’t mean he can’t get a second, third, or hundredth free IP every day of the week, does it? > > Anti-Alphagene is not anti-mod. Anti-Alphagene when Alphagene is wrong is simply Fighting Ignorance, the same as when anyone is wrong. Another closed thread contains this gem: > [@](#): > > re: 1) You seem to be refering to the Alphabet bannings again. But they precisely contradict your point, you know. They never said anything bad, did they? You told me before that Andros had no information. He says he’s just been busy, lost his email, had a fight with his ISP, forgot. After all these posts by you on the matter, I’m getting kind of curious what caused all this. > > Every day the mods and a couple of regular toadies like waterj2 repeat the litany that IP’s don’t count. But that doesn’t make it believable. They say you have to have bad behavior, but they are some of the worst behaved. So what is the real story, and why fight so hard to avoid admitting it? What’s at stake here if you just say “Yes, we screen IP#'s” “Yes, we ban people on hunches, or one cross word, if their count is low enough.” > > The truth will set you free. Admit you are sometimes arbitrary. Then you can tell Lizard, as you have just so blatantly told Sangria: Now that you asked the wrong question, or denied, you will be watched. And that means banned at the first sneeze. And you’ll quickly learn that banning is worthless and you will come back as a sock, or two. Then there were a couple threads where you act normal, then this. Assuming that this thread, as it is almost word for word the same as a thread that was just closed, will be closed, that’s five threads that got closed. Basically, you primarily post here to whine about the alphabet sock puppets getting banned, and have never stated your reasons for linking them to andros. Even if you aren’t a sock puppet, I think you are a nuisance and should be banned on general principle. ---
**Author:** ![No\_Bones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ba8739/32.png) [@No\_Bones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/No_Bones)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2000, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-no-ones-sock-puppet-either/46875/5 "2000-12-22T20:20:30Z")
Excuse me if I ignore your jibes. You posted to the thread where this appeared, so you know the answers to your “questions”. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Andros \* > \*\* Hi there, kids. It’s your old pal andros. > : > : > So, anyway, [n]No Bones contacted me, per my request, and I dropped the ball. Mea maxima culpa. I’ll recify the situation soonest, if you’re still interested. \*\* **pepperlandgirl** You also found the correct thread. You called me a troll, not a sock? Isn’t that just added insult? And as to the ratio of posts on various topics, if one thread had been left open, perhaps Andros could have answered me there, since he seems unable yet to email. Also, on this same forum today I noticed \*\*Cannon \*\*complaining. His posts are often insults out of the blue, aren’t they? Re: “Even if you aren’t a sock puppet, I think you are a nuisance and should be banned on general principle.”-waterj2 The feelings are mutual. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2000, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-no-ones-sock-puppet-either/46875/6 "2000-12-22T20:31:04Z")
> [@](#): > > pepperlandgirl You also found the correct thread. You called me a troll, not a sock? Isn’t that just added insult? No it is not an added insult, it is a **different** insult. It is not a banning offense to be a troll. It is a banning offense to be/have a sock puppet. And it is a banning offense to be a jerk. ---
**Author:** ![No\_Bones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ba8739/32.png) [@No\_Bones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/No_Bones)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2000, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-no-ones-sock-puppet-either/46875/7 "2000-12-22T20:47:29Z")
I think if being a jerk were what the criteria were, both pepperlandgirl and waterj2 would have vanished long ago. Both are quite of the acid-tongued school. Also, it’s not a different insult if the implication is that you are speaking on behalf of a regular poster. ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2000, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-no-ones-sock-puppet-either/46875/8 "2000-12-22T20:56:01Z")
_sigh_ Sometimes, it all seems very futile. You explain the situation in one thread, thinking that will suffice. At least for _today_. **No Bones** , you obviously read that other thread I closed earlier on. I think I was pretty clear about sock and troll discussions there. _Why did you think it necessary to open yet another thread?_ Do you think you’re special? Can’t you read? Is it too hard for you to follow these simple rules, and mail a moderator? Kindly explain yourself. We’ll get back to you. ---
**Author:** ![No\_Bones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ba8739/32.png) [@No\_Bones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/No_Bones)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2000, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-no-ones-sock-puppet-either/46875/9 "2000-12-22T21:04:46Z")
I think I was responding to the same things **Cannon** ; I just don’t like being maligned in public and have to protest in private. **Mu Mu** seemed to pinpoint part of the dilemma. You may close this any time. I’ve said what I felt I had to. ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2000, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-no-ones-sock-puppet-either/46875/10 "2000-12-22T21:17:43Z")
> [@](#): > > Re: “Even if you aren’t a sock puppet, I think you are a nuisance and should be banned on general principle.”-waterj2 > > The feelings are mutual. Shall we compare who has contributed more to these boards? If the majority of my posts were on the matter of sock puppets and trolls, you’d have a point (though not a very good one), however, they make up far less than half my posts. Also, if I read you correctly, you are saying that you were behind all the alphabet posters. As I recall, any request andros made was made to a different screen name (oger, IIRC), so you’ll pardon me if I can’t keep track of these things. > [@](#): > > Also, it’s not a different insult if the implication is that you are speaking on behalf of a regular poster. Nope, still an insult. ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2000, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-no-ones-sock-puppet-either/46875/11 "2000-12-22T21:31:14Z")
Don’t bother, waterj2 - it’s no use. AS per your request, No Bones, this one is closed. Don’t break the rules again. If you copy an entire OP, I assume you understand what the reaction to that OP was. Whether you like “protesting in private” or not is immaterial. You shall do so. This thread is closed.