# I am not a monster, dammit!!!!!!!!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 8, 2010, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-not-a-monster-dammit/528115 "2010-02-08T05:42:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-not-a-monster-dammit/528115/121 "2010-02-09T01:04:32Z")

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I THINK the whole “stranger danger” thing was more of a “you don’t know this person, thus, you don’t know what they’re like” kind of thing. But it morphed into a “STRANGERS ARE BAD!!!” kind of thing.

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**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-not-a-monster-dammit/528115/122 "2010-02-09T01:15:52Z")

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> [@The\_Bith\_Shuffle](#):
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> This is true with rape, generally. I heard somewhere that 95% of rapes are convicted by people the victims know. I don’t know if this figure was exactly accurate or whether it pertained only to the United States, but I think it’s safe to say that the “woman walks down dark alley…” kind of rape is not as common as people think.
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> I’ve wondered why this misconception is so common. Do women not want to think that the men they consider their friends and acquaintances could rape them? An understandable desire, no doubt, but one which could put them in danger.

I think you also have to look at how they are defining someone you know. I know someone who was raped by a man who worked at the video store she frequented. Through transacting business she’d spoken with him a few times about movies she was renting so he was familiar to her by sight, but she didn’t know him. It’s hard to tell where that would fall under the statistic.

Unfortunately I’ve been present during rape examinations in the hospital and present during some police interviews and although some of the women had seen their attackers before, they didn’t (what I consider knowing) know them.

To the OP: I cannot imagine the internal hell you go through every day. I honestly just cannot imagine it. I hope you’re always able to fight your inclinations and that someday soon science will provide you with relief.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-not-a-monster-dammit/528115/123 "2010-02-09T01:58:08Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> I THINK the whole “stranger danger” thing was more of a “you don’t know this person, thus, you don’t know what they’re like” kind of thing. But it morphed into a “STRANGERS ARE BAD!!!” kind of thing.

[And the strangers are getting tired of it.](http://www.theonion.com/content/news/nations_strangers_decry_negative)

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**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-not-a-monster-dammit/528115/124 "2010-02-09T02:06:13Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> [And the strangers are getting tired of it.](http://www.theonion.com/content/news/nations_strangers_decry_negative)

Well, at least [some strangers](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vbnLYROCj8) are willing to fight back against the negativity; claiming perfection in all things.

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**Author:** ![Genericuser234](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5daacb/32.png) [@Genericuser234](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Genericuser234)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-not-a-monster-dammit/528115/125 "2010-02-09T02:16:48Z")

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> [@Pduol](#):
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> I am more a lurker

You can say that agian

> [@Pduol](#):
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> I AM NOT A MONSTER!!!

Of course you’re not, You’re a pedofile.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-not-a-monster-dammit/528115/126 "2010-02-09T02:24:48Z")

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> [@marochko](#):
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> You can say that agian  
> Of course you’re not, You’re a pedofile.

Marochko, do you EVER use the spell-check feature? You do realize that when your post has red underlining, it means you have misspellings? It kind of makes what you write look more ill-informed than it already is.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-not-a-monster-dammit/528115/127 "2010-02-09T02:25:25Z")

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> [@marochko](#):
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> Of course you’re not, You’re a pedofile.

[http://media.ebaumsworld.com/2008/01/Pedofile.jpg](http://media.ebaumsworld.com/2008/01/Pedofile.jpg)

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-not-a-monster-dammit/528115/128 "2010-02-09T02:29:56Z")

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Originally Posted by **marochko**

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> _Of course you’re not, You’re a pedofile._

[Definitions 1 and 3.](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pedofile)

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**Author:** ![Lunchy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Lunchy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lunchy)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-not-a-monster-dammit/528115/129 "2010-02-09T03:38:21Z")

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> [@St.Anger](#):
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> Is there any way the Board here can trace down Cesario and Pdouls IP addresses and maybe the Federal authorities can track them down?
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> Either way, I am sending this thread to the FBI, so both can start spending the most of the rest of their years getting gangfucked by black gangsta and white Aryan inmates.
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> Bye, bye fuckos.

Wow, really? I have to restrain myself EVERYDAY from beating people to death (literally), better send them my info, because, gosh, I just can’t control myself.

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**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-not-a-monster-dammit/528115/130 "2010-02-09T03:44:52Z")

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> [@Lunchy](#):
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> Wow, really? I have to restrain myself EVERYDAY from beating people to death (literally), better send them my info, because, gosh, I just can’t control myself.

Every day? Short fuse?

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-not-a-monster-dammit/528115/131 "2010-02-09T03:53:20Z")

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I have a pedofile. I use it on the calluses on my heels.

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**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-not-a-monster-dammit/528115/132 "2010-02-09T03:54:12Z")

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> [@Lunchy](#):
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> Wow, really? I have to restrain myself EVERYDAY from beating people to death (literally), better send them my info, because, gosh, I just can’t control myself.

Are you a cop?

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**Author:** ![fuzzypickles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9d8465/32.png) [@fuzzypickles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fuzzypickles)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-not-a-monster-dammit/528115/133 "2010-02-09T04:03:51Z")

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Oh geez, not another one…

Well **Pduol** , all I’m gonna say is that my experience with pedophiles breaks down into two categories: those who have already offended, and those who haven’t offended yet. For what it’s worth, I hope you’re honest in your stated intentions to avoid children or anything pertaining to children, and that you’re able to locate a therapist who is willing to aid you in dealing with your paraphilia without getting squicked out. In particular, I hope you can show initiative by giving up custody of your daughters, or limiting contact with them, until they are grown to an age where you no longer present a danger to them (assuming they haven’t grown up already, which was a little unclear in your post.)

> [@St.Anger](#):
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> Either way, I am sending this thread to the FBI, so both can start spending the most of the rest of their years getting gangfucked by black gangsta and white Aryan inmates.

Hate to burst your bubble bucko, but the FBI doesn’t have the resources to track & monitor every single pervert in the world, so your threat is certain to go nowhere. (The Feds don’t have jurisdiction over domestic sexual abuse anyway; that’s the domain of local police.)

However, for cryin’ out loud, next time you want to report somebody, DON’T TELL THEM FIRST!!! At worst, doing so gives them opportunity to cover up their misdeeds (which can make you guilty of obstructing justice) and at best makes your words a hollow, meaningless threat, which I’m certain it was. :mad:

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**Author:** ![Arcite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/67e7ee/32.png) [@Arcite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arcite)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-not-a-monster-dammit/528115/134 "2010-02-09T04:14:23Z")

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> [@fuzzypickles](#):
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> In particular, I hope you can show initiative by giving up custody of your daughters, or limiting contact with them, until they are grown to an age where you no longer present a danger to them (assuming they haven’t grown up already, which was a little unclear in your post.)

Pdoul has already stated he was not attracted to his daughters. By your logic, every non-pedophilic heterosexual man with daughters over the age of 18 presents a danger to them.

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**Author:** ![xash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/c6cbf5/32.png) [@xash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xash)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-not-a-monster-dammit/528115/135 "2010-02-09T04:20:43Z")

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Any further reference to **Cesario** in this thread will result in a warning. While I understand that it may be on-topic, it violates the following rule:

> [@On an "Ask the Pedophile" thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/347):
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> 1. Having reviewed **Cesario** ’s postings and compared notes, we now realize how frequently he posts about his sexual inclinations. Our rules state, “The board is not intended to furnish you with a forum for promoting your personal agenda. We reserve the right to ask you to limit postings on a particular topic, or to refrain from posting on such topics altogether.” We’re now invoking this rule: We don’t want to see any further discussion from **Cesario** about pedophilia. **Attempts by other users to provoke Cesario into breaking this rule, or to make comments about him to which he cannot respond, will also not be tolerated. Thank you for your cooperation.**

Bolding mine.

- **xash**  
Administrator

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**Author:** ![fuzzypickles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9d8465/32.png) [@fuzzypickles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fuzzypickles)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-not-a-monster-dammit/528115/136 "2010-02-09T05:05:10Z")

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> [@Arcite](#):
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> Pdoul has already stated he was not attracted to his daughters.

And you believed him. :rolleyes:

> [@Arcite](#):
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> By your logic, every non-pedophilic heterosexual man with daughters over the age of 18 presents a danger to them.

Don’t mistakenly assume that pedophiles think the same way we do. They are by nature prone to immaturity, delusional thinking, and lack of self-control. Granted, it’s more likely that **Pdoul** is merely in denial, rather than outright lying…and who knows? Even I’ll admit there’s a non-zero chance that he’s actually telling the truth.

But the statistics are clear: more than FIFTY PERCENT of ALL sexually abused children are victims of their PARENTS, or another close relative. And I’ve read many statements by convicted sex offenders who claim they were “unaware” of their actual incestuous desires until, one day, it “just happened.” Those facts alone are cause for alarm.

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-not-a-monster-dammit/528115/137 "2010-02-09T05:19:38Z")

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> [@fuzzypickles](#):
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> But the statistics are clear: more than FIFTY PERCENT of ALL sexually abused children are victims of their PARENTS, or another close relative. And I’ve read many statements by convicted sex offenders who claim they were “unaware” of their actual incestuous desires until, one day, it “just happened.” Those facts alone are cause for alarm.

Those statistics mean nothing at all to the question of whether or not a pedophile is likely to molest his own children. It only answers the question of how many children who are _actually molested_, are molested by family as opposed to strangers.

Around the time that I ask my husband the sixth question about some fairly simple movie plot, he cups my chubby chin lovingly in his hand and says, “Nzinga, you sure aren’t the sharpest knife in the drawer”. But even I can see that your statistic answers nothing to the fact of whether or not a pedophile is likely to molest his own children.

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**Author:** ![fuzzypickles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9d8465/32.png) [@fuzzypickles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fuzzypickles)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-not-a-monster-dammit/528115/138 "2010-02-09T05:26:40Z")

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> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> Those statistics mean nothing at all to the question of whether or not a pedophile is likely to molest his own children. It only answers the question of how many children who are _actually molested_, are molested by family as opposed to strangers.

But the fact that he’s a pedophile makes him far more likely than a non-pedophile to molest _any_ child, does it not? Unless I’m missing something, the math plays out.

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-not-a-monster-dammit/528115/139 "2010-02-09T05:28:33Z")

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> [@fuzzypickles](#):
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> But the fact that he’s a pedophile makes him far more likely than a non-pedophile to molest _any_ child, does it not? Unless I’m missing something, the math plays out.

We aint got no math, because we have no idea how many men are secretly in their heart of hearts pedophiles. We need those numbers to do the math. Without those numbers, we can only condemn those that actually act on their urges. For real. Because, if you can do the math without those numbers, I’m going to have to ask you to show your work.

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-not-a-monster-dammit/528115/140 "2010-02-09T05:35:04Z")

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Man, word problems suck.

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