# I am offended... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 3, 2002, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-offended/117235 "2002-07-03T18:53:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Chekmate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/46a35a/32.png) [@Chekmate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chekmate)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2002, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-offended/117235/1 "2002-07-03T18:53:15Z")
Since the pledge ruling I keep hearing that atheists do not have the right to not be offended by the mere mention god. Besides, the fact that this observation misstates the issue, the observation is false. I am not offended by the mention of god nor am I offended by people practicing their first amendement rights. That said, I am offended by the government taking a side on the issue of god’s existence. I am offended that the president’s idea of common sense judges are those willing to ignore the constitution to advance Christianity. I am offended that a senator, a democrat no less, can suggest that if atheists do not like their second class status they can leave and still keep his job. I am offended that no politician condemned the death threats against Dr. Newdow. I am offended that Cal Thomas can get away with suggesting the pledge ruling is a worse blow than the 9-11 attacks. I am offended that he would be right if the victims were all atheists. I am offended that demanding our government remain neutral is seen as intolerance but demanding government validation of one’s beliefs under the threat of violence is seen as excersizinng one’s civil rights. I am offended by those who are offended by liberty and justice for ALL. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2002, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-offended/117235/2 "2002-07-03T19:15:07Z")
I’m offended that you would steal [someone else’s post](http://iidb.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=47&t=000672) and try to pass it off as your own. You think nobody would notice? Unless, of course, you’re Chad…But if so, why would you post under 2 names over there? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2002, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-offended/117235/3 "2002-07-03T19:17:05Z")
The hampsters ate my post, but I’ll hold off on reposting and see where this goes. ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2002, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-offended/117235/4 "2002-07-03T19:26:58Z")
Well **checkmate** if you are not ‘CHAD’ I’d suggest you castle, cause your ability points are going down, down, down. good hunting **PEPPER** on a slightly different note, are the president and other members of congress not under the same first amendment rights to free speech? They can say what they want, weather you and your dual personality like it or not. ---
**Author:** ![EchoKitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f4b2a3/32.png) [@EchoKitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EchoKitty)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2002, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-offended/117235/5 "2002-07-03T19:37:16Z")
They can say what they want as private citizens, but when representing their constituents in the land governed by our constitution, they cannot. Pepperlandgirl, how did you know that his post was plagarized? Had you read the original already? You are one sharp tack, Missie! ---
**Author:** ![Chekmate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/46a35a/32.png) [@Chekmate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chekmate)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2002, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-offended/117235/6 "2002-07-03T19:38:40Z")
Oh yeah! well, I can plagerize if I want to! So THERE. I’m going home! \ sorry ---
**Author:** ![Jorel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f19dbf/32.png) [@Jorel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jorel)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2002, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-offended/117235/7 "2002-07-03T19:40:46Z")
perhaps plagiarism is a form of flattery? I thought this was a good post, until Peppergirl (I second the good hunting comment! Wow!) I would agree that the POTUS and congress have the same first amendment rights, but sometimes I wonder if it would be wiser to clam up sometimes. (btw-please forgive my ignorance about the word ‘castle’ in this sense. Is this a reference to check/checkmate?) my two cents. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2002, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-offended/117235/8 "2002-07-03T19:41:19Z")
I read the Internet Infidels MB as much as I read the SDMB. I happened to have read Chad’s post earlier today, long before **checkmate’s**. ---
**Author:** ![Zoff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/6de8d8/32.png) [@Zoff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoff)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2002, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-offended/117235/9 "2002-07-03T19:43:43Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by EchoKitty_ > They can say what they want as private citizens, but when representing their constituents in the land governed by our constitution, they cannot. I think you’re misunderstanding First Amendment rights. Individual members of government are perfectly free to say whatever they want. What Sen. Byrd said was truly stupid, but it’s not a violation of the Constitution. ---
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2002, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-offended/117235/10 "2002-07-03T19:50:01Z")
What he can’t actually do is enact a law to deport atheists because they’re atheists or make it illegal for atheists to vote… Although given his little Congressional soliloquy, he’d probably like to. ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2002, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-offended/117235/11 "2002-07-03T19:51:58Z")
Yes **Jorel** castle is a reference to a move in chess that checkmate ought to learn. and **checkmate** Plagarism is never okay. I don’t care if your posting on a messege board such as this one or if your writing a paper for pre-school. It’s never ok. Next time why don’t you quote the post, or link it and comment on it. Instead of saying I’m offended and cutting and pasting. check. ---
**Author:** ![Hamadryad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6de8d8/32.png) [@Hamadryad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamadryad)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2002, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-offended/117235/12 "2002-07-03T20:02:27Z")
Fantastic post. Moronic poster. Ain’t that a shame. ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2002, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-offended/117235/13 "2002-07-03T20:07:40Z")
Uh oh! **Checkmate** , have you plagarized here before? ---
**Author:** ![Spooky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Spooky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spooky)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2002, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-offended/117235/14 "2002-07-03T21:11:43Z")
Holy moly, **Pepperlandgirl** , I am impressed! ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2002, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-offended/117235/15 "2002-07-03T22:12:19Z")
my advice: get out more often! (all of us!) * * * Up-tight, Outta-site and in the Groove! ---
**Author:** ![Chekmate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/46a35a/32.png) [@Chekmate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chekmate)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2002, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-offended/117235/16 "2002-07-04T03:47:13Z")
> [@](#): > > Uh oh! Checkmate, have you plagarized here before? \ [maybe…](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=119941) Seriously though… Just that one other time. What can I say, I am a lazy bastard, and I like to get credit for things that aren’t mine sometimes. Most of the stuff I come up with is mine though. Once again though, I am sorry, and I will never, ever do it again. Ever. \:( ---
**Author:** ![Forbin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Forbin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Forbin)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2002, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-offended/117235/17 "2002-07-04T04:42:43Z")
**Pepperlandgirl** That was quite impressive! ---
**Author:** ![fallom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a88e57/32.png) [@fallom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fallom)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2002, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-offended/117235/18 "2002-07-04T04:54:38Z")
Let’s stop with praising Pepper for reading another board, and start talking about Chekmate. Chekmate: You know that you’ve pretty much lost all the trust of everyone on the board? What’s going to stop you from plagarizing something else? ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2002, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-offended/117235/19 "2002-07-04T05:23:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by fallom \* > **Let’s stop with praising Pepper for reading another board** Yeah…that must be all she did… > [@](#): > > **and start talking about Chekmate.** Well, he pretty much has admitted not only that he was wrong, but was pretty self-effacing in the post above. I’m willing to give him another chance. **Chekmate** , Dude…I’m sure you have some pretty interesting things to say, and great contributions to make - here and IRL. Just either make sure they’re your contributions, or else reference them, and you’ll do just fine. ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2002, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-offended/117235/20 "2002-07-04T08:21:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Chekmate \* > \*\* > > \ [maybe…](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=119941) > > Seriously though… Just that one other time. What can I say, I am a lazy bastard, and I like to get credit for things that aren’t mine sometimes. Most of the stuff I come up with is mine though. Once again though, I am sorry, and I will never, ever do it again. Ever. > > \:( \*\* So, **Chekmate** , by your own admission, you plagiarised not once, but twice within a time frame of a couple of weeks. As you know, **The Chicago Reader** , owner of the Straight Dope Message Board, is a newspaper. Sources are everything in that business, **Chek**. We will be reviewing your posting privileges. This thread is closed.