# I am pitting the New York State and Local Retirement System

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-pitting-the-new-york-state-and-local-retirement-system/1016462
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [April 1, 2025, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-pitting-the-new-york-state-and-local-retirement-system/1016462 "2025-04-01T18:52:06Z")
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### Author: ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
#### Post date: [April 1, 2025, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-pitting-the-new-york-state-and-local-retirement-system/1016462/1 "2025-04-01T18:52:06Z")

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I have a simple request. I need a form.

I go to their website. The pop-up tells me I can’t access the website. So I should call their phone number.

I call their phone number. The recorded message tells me they’re busy and can’t take my call. So I should go to their website.

I have been going back and forth like this for two days.

I have sent an email. The email entry form says it might take two weeks for a response.

I suppose my next step is to go to their regional office. It could be worse; the closest office is only a half hour drive away.

I hope I don’t end up having to drive to Albany.

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### Author: ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)
#### Post date: [April 1, 2025, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-pitting-the-new-york-state-and-local-retirement-system/1016462/2 "2025-04-01T19:00:29Z")

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I feel your pain. I’ve experienced similar with the Wisconsin system.

But like crucifixion, at least it gets us out in the open air.

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### Author: ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)
#### Post date: [April 1, 2025, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-pitting-the-new-york-state-and-local-retirement-system/1016462/3 "2025-04-01T19:10:38Z")

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It’s easy to look _backward_, and trace the steps that led to a Luigi Mangione’s last acts (“all the signs were there”).

It’s infinitely harder to look _forward_, from somebody’s entirely reasonable sense of frustration, outrage, and indignation at this kind of bureaucratic bullshit and figure out where _they’ll_ end up 😉

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### Author: ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)
#### Post date: [April 1, 2025, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-pitting-the-new-york-state-and-local-retirement-system/1016462/4 "2025-04-01T19:44:53Z")

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The OP may find the solace of company in this post from the shiny new April mini-rants thread:

> [@April Sours... (Monthly Mini-Rants)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/april-sours-monthly-mini-rants/1016445/2):
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> Definitely very mini: I inherited a share in some useless property in a failed development. I’m the person who pays the (trivial) semi-annual property taxes on Dad’s little slice of paradise. Not. My reminder comes up today to hit their website and pay their danegeld via credit card. Trying to be all efficient and shit I jump right on that ehre pre-dawn before even starting to Dope; imagine being so task-oriented! So of course the website is failing. Do the captcha, pick your property out o…

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### Author: ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)
#### Post date: [April 1, 2025, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-pitting-the-new-york-state-and-local-retirement-system/1016462/5 "2025-04-01T21:19:08Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> But like crucifixion, at least it gets us out in the open air.

[“When you’re chewing on life’s gristle, don’t grumble. Give a whistle!”](https://youtu.be/62o8VkNGq2Y?si=LysnwaAlhi2lAc53)

Stranger

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### Author: ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)
#### Post date: [April 1, 2025, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-pitting-the-new-york-state-and-local-retirement-system/1016462/6 "2025-04-01T22:25:40Z")

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Channeling my inner MAGA/DOGE  
What more evidence do you need to see that the New York State and Local Retirement System bureaucracy does not work? We should close it down and give you the freedom to deal with your retirement totally on your own!
