# I am SERIOUSLY WORRIED that these riots are going to get Trump re-elected

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [August 26, 2020, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-seriously-worried-that-these-riots-are-going-to-get-trump-re-elected/919092 "2020-08-26T20:53:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-seriously-worried-that-these-riots-are-going-to-get-trump-re-elected/919092/201 "2020-09-05T16:44:27Z")

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What is the deal with the guy who was shooting paint balls at protestors getting shot dead and then the guy who supposedly killed him killing himself later?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-seriously-worried-that-these-riots-are-going-to-get-trump-re-elected/919092/202 "2020-09-05T16:46:35Z")

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The Trump campaign is on record as wanting violence and chaos, and has taken action to directly cause violence and chaos (brutalizing peaceful protesters in DC and Portland). They’re the bad guys, for those of us concerned about facts and basic morality.

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**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-seriously-worried-that-these-riots-are-going-to-get-trump-re-elected/919092/203 "2020-09-05T16:53:54Z")

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There should be one general thread called “Orange Man Bad” and then there could be others about every other topic that do not include TDS.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-seriously-worried-that-these-riots-are-going-to-get-trump-re-elected/919092/204 "2020-09-05T17:01:10Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> I don’t see Trump out burning and looting. I see far left radicals and low class criminal opportunists doing that. All under the protection of local leaders.

> **['Speaking of Looting...': Trump Admin. Refuses to Disclose Corporate...](https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/06/11/speaking-looting-trump-admin-refuses-disclose-corporate-recipients-500-billion)**
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> "This is outrageous AND exactly what was obviously going to happen AND exactly why many of us opposed CARES as written."

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-seriously-worried-that-these-riots-are-going-to-get-trump-re-elected/919092/205 "2020-09-05T17:05:19Z")

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> [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#):
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> There should be one general thread called “Orange Man Bad” and then there could be others about every other topic that do not include TDS.

As pointed before, the Agent Orange also got his fingers into this mess, showing that the law is just a scrap of paper for him.

> **[Peaceful Protesters Tear-Gassed To Clear Way For Trump Church Photo-Op](https://www.npr.org/2020/06/01/867532070/trumps-unannounced-church-visit-angers-church-officials)**
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> After U.S. Park Police and National Guard troops pushed demonstrators out of Lafayette Park, President Trump walked from the White House to St. John's Church where he posed for pictures with a Bible.

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**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-seriously-worried-that-these-riots-are-going-to-get-trump-re-elected/919092/206 "2020-09-05T17:06:51Z")

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Thanks for making my point.  
You get a cookie and a small soda.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-seriously-worried-that-these-riots-are-going-to-get-trump-re-elected/919092/207 "2020-09-05T17:24:39Z")

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Well of course, one should always point that the Trump Derangement Syndrome is coming from Trump. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-seriously-worried-that-these-riots-are-going-to-get-trump-re-elected/919092/209 "2020-09-05T17:40:33Z")

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This thread has Trump in the title. It’s not like you were triggered by an unexpected hijack.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-seriously-worried-that-these-riots-are-going-to-get-trump-re-elected/919092/210 "2020-09-05T17:40:38Z")

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> [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#):
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> Thanks again for making my point even stronger.  
> You now get a medium soda and, now, you can choose the diet version.

I posted evidence of how deranged Trump is, you have only your happy meal opinion. 😋

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**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-seriously-worried-that-these-riots-are-going-to-get-trump-re-elected/919092/211 "2020-09-05T20:19:11Z")

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I don’t pretend to predict the future. However, all the evidence so far is that the riots are not appreciably affecting his polling.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-seriously-worried-that-these-riots-are-going-to-get-trump-re-elected/919092/212 "2020-09-05T20:37:37Z")

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> [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#):
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> There should be one general thread called “Orange Man Bad” and then there could be others about every other topic that do not include TDS.

It has always struck me as strange that TDS would be attributed to the part of the electorate that had absolutely no illusions about the kind of incompetent buffoon Trump was and would continue to be. The only derangement I see is everyone who continues to support Trump in spite of all incontrovertible evidence that he is not fit to shovel shit from one place to another.

Any chance you’d care to explain the real case of TDS and how it so easily afflicted ~63M MAGATS?

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-seriously-worried-that-these-riots-are-going-to-get-trump-re-elected/919092/213 "2020-09-05T20:43:47Z")

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TIL that Trevor Noah was a Magat!

😀

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-seriously-worried-that-these-riots-are-going-to-get-trump-re-elected/919092/214 "2020-09-05T20:46:03Z")

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wat?..

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-seriously-worried-that-these-riots-are-going-to-get-trump-re-elected/919092/215 "2020-09-05T21:04:17Z")

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TDS has also been used from time to time as the initialism for The Daily Show.

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**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-seriously-worried-that-these-riots-are-going-to-get-trump-re-elected/919092/216 "2020-09-05T22:58:02Z")

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I was a proponent of “Trump Derangement Syndrome” for a while. I really did believe - though I found him to be an odious and utterly hateful person and an incompetent president who was embarrassing to the rest of the world - that many of the people criticizing him were sky-is-falling alarmists who exaggerated his presidency as being more traumatic for the country than it actually was.

COVID was the turning point. He has manifestly demonstrated at this point that he IS as destructive and dangerous as people have been saying, and now at this point I can’t accuse anyone else of TDS. It’s the “T” who is himself deranged.

He’s still good at campaigning though and Biden will most definitely face an uphill battle, IMO.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-seriously-worried-that-these-riots-are-going-to-get-trump-re-elected/919092/217 "2020-09-06T21:15:13Z")

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> [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#):
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> Thanks for making my point.  
> You get a cookie and a small soda.

> [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#):
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> Thanks again for making my point even stronger.  
> You now get a medium soda and, now, you can choose the diet version.

**Moderation Note**

Knock it off, please. Let’s keep things civil.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-seriously-worried-that-these-riots-are-going-to-get-trump-re-elected/919092/218 "2020-09-06T23:00:55Z")

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At this point, unless Biden has a massive scandal, I don’t think that there is anything that will move the numbers from where they are now.

For Trump supporters it has already been established that there is literally nothing that Trump can do that would change their mind about him. Meanwhile, there is practically nothing the Biden could do that would make him worse than Trump, so the numbers are baked in and have been since 2017.

The only question is how good Trumps voter suppression apparatus works out.

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**Author:** ![Lantern2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lantern2/32/3010_2.png) [@Lantern2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern2)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-seriously-worried-that-these-riots-are-going-to-get-trump-re-elected/919092/219 "2020-09-07T09:17:13Z")

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Trump’s numbers have edged up a bit over the last 10 days but not more than a smallish convention bounce which is likely to fade. Overall I think riots remain a worry particularly if they recur closer to the elections but Biden has handled them pretty well and Trump is not in a good position to take political advantage since he is widely considered an irresponsible charlatan.

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**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-seriously-worried-that-these-riots-are-going-to-get-trump-re-elected/919092/220 "2020-09-07T20:10:11Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> But if Trump had enough true believers to win an election, he would have won the general election in 2016. Trump has to reach voters who aren’t in his base.

I’m pretty sure he did.

He didn’t win the popular vote but that’s not how the general election is won. He lost the popular vote by 3 million votes and 5 million of those 3 million votes were from California.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-seriously-worried-that-these-riots-are-going-to-get-trump-re-elected/919092/221 "2020-09-07T20:39:52Z")

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> [@damuriajashi](#):
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> I’m pretty sure he did.

No, Clinton won the general election. But Trump won the electoral college election and that’s what decides who’s President.

It’s a bad system but it’s what we have.

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