# I am shocked - shocked - to know that dancing is going on...

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 4, 2019, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-shocked-shocked-to-know-that-dancing-is-going-on/827186 "2019-01-04T08:42:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-shocked-shocked-to-know-that-dancing-is-going-on/827186/81 "2019-01-08T08:40:38Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> … Ending this post on a more hopeful note, there is a vast ideological space encompassing Milton Friedman and Paul Krugman which is reality-based and non-hysteric:…

Key point. Today’s schism isn’t between the Right and the Left; it’s between the Crazies and the Sane.

I have little confidence in PoliticalCompass but [their chart showing Obama and Romney as very close ideologically](https://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2012) makes a related point.

_Rational thinkers of the world, Unite!_ You have nothing to lose but your … [dependence on Xanax?]

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-shocked-shocked-to-know-that-dancing-is-going-on/827186/82 "2019-01-08T10:18:24Z")

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Ben Shapiro [‘host of "The Ben Shapiro Show” podcast and syndicated radio, “The Ben Shapiro Election Special” on Fox News, NRO, Newsweek, NYT bestseller’] on [Twitter](https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1081334030568570880):

> [@](#):
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> Media: AOC IS THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE! SHE’S SOOOO IMPORTANT!  
> Conservatives: Okay. That’s scary. Her policy is insane.  
> Media: LOOK, SHE’S DANCING! YOU HATE THAT!  
> Conservatives: Nah, her policy is just insane.  
> Media: WHY ARE YOU SO OBSESSED WITH HER?

Twitter response:

> [@Adam Schiavone](#):
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> You’ve Tweeted about her 21 times since 3pm Thursday

So many triggered snowflakes.

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**Author:** ![GottaBeMeh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/57b2e6/32.png) [@GottaBeMeh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GottaBeMeh)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-shocked-shocked-to-know-that-dancing-is-going-on/827186/83 "2019-01-08T14:40:35Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> What kind of dour and unpleasant person would think that this video reflects badly on her?
> 
> Obviously the person who first posted this thinks it does. I guess it’s one more aspect of a right-wing mindset that I’ll never understand.

That was my first thought as well. How sad, pathetic, and disconnected from reality does a person have to be to think this video is even slightly unbecoming?

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/T4o98xXhv-g/maxresdefault.jpg "Desperation is a stinky cologne") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4o98xXhv-g)

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-shocked-shocked-to-know-that-dancing-is-going-on/827186/84 "2019-01-08T16:53:46Z")

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“LOOK, SHE’S DANCING! YOU HATE THAT!” perfectly sums up this thread.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-shocked-shocked-to-know-that-dancing-is-going-on/827186/85 "2019-01-08T17:00:42Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> “LOOK, SHE’S DANCING! YOU HATE THAT!” perfectly sums up this thread.

Nah, we’re just amused at the large number of conservative heads that AOC seems to be living rent-free in. 😃

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-shocked-shocked-to-know-that-dancing-is-going-on/827186/86 "2019-01-08T17:17:06Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Nah, we’re just amused at the large number of conservative heads that AOC seems to be living rent-free in. 😃

If you think that’s funny, you could get an absolute roaring fit of laughter out of the large(r) number of liberal heads that President Trump seems to be living rent-free in.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-shocked-shocked-to-know-that-dancing-is-going-on/827186/87 "2019-01-08T17:25:57Z")

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lol

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-shocked-shocked-to-know-that-dancing-is-going-on/827186/88 "2019-01-08T17:42:31Z")

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Seems like a made up controversy to me.

A few grumps complain that AOC likes to dance. There’s always a few people that will complain about anything.

Who knows if these people are even political?

But it gets attributed to Conservatives.

FWIW it’s pretty cool seeing AOC enjoying herself. It shows that she doesn’t always take herself too seriously.

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**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-shocked-shocked-to-know-that-dancing-is-going-on/827186/89 "2019-01-08T17:55:08Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> If you think that’s funny, you could get an absolute roaring fit of laughter out of the large(r) number of liberal heads that President Trump seems to be living rent-free in.

I WISH trump was only living in my head, and not in the white house.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-shocked-shocked-to-know-that-dancing-is-going-on/827186/90 "2019-01-08T18:13:29Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> If you think that’s funny, you could get an absolute roaring fit of laughter out of the large(r) number of liberal heads that President Trump seems to be living rent-free in.

> [@kayT](#):
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> I WISH trump was only living in my head, and not in the white house.

This. AOC is one Representative out of 435, and it will be years before she so much as chairs a Congressional committee. She has very little actual power, and nobody really _has_ to pay attention to her.

Trump, OTOH, is President of the United States. In that capacity, he has a great deal of power. He can have babies separated from their parents and locked up in cages, or he can institute a foreign policy that kisses up to a hostile power while undermining our longstanding alliances. In 2017, he came within one vote of dismantling the Affordable Care Act. Hell, he could start a nuclear war if the mood were to strike him. He is powerful, he is dangerous. Failing to pay attention to him is not really an option.

The fact that conservatives are paying one-tenth the attention to AOC that liberals pay to Trump is one hell of a win for AOC.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-shocked-shocked-to-know-that-dancing-is-going-on/827186/91 "2019-01-08T18:27:20Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> … nobody really _has_ to pay attention to her. …

Of course nobody _has_ to, but as long as she keeps making statements like this:

> [@](#):
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> [There’s a lot of people more concerned about being precisely, factually, and semantically correct than about being morally right](https://twitter.com/60Minutes/status/1082068489597267968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1082068489597267968%7Ctwgr%5E363937393b636f6e74726f6c&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fhotair.com%2Farchives%2F2019%2F01%2F07%2Faoc-facts-dont-matter-youre-morally-right%2F)

she’ll probably keep getting attention.

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**Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-shocked-shocked-to-know-that-dancing-is-going-on/827186/92 "2019-01-08T18:34:39Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> Of course nobody _has_ to, but as long as she keeps making statements like this:
> 
> she’ll probably keep getting attention.

Congresscritters say outrageous and ridiculous things all the time, many of which leave that one in the shade. And 99% of them pass with barely any public notice, beyond a brief mention in a paper somewhere.

AOC’s remarks keep getting attention because conservative media and conservative pundits keep giving her lots of attention. Not that I object, mind you, but she gets attention because she’s living rent-free in conservatives’ heads.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-shocked-shocked-to-know-that-dancing-is-going-on/827186/93 "2019-01-08T18:35:52Z")

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Doesn’t AOC interest in facts remind you of Trump?

They both just say whatever they want. Someone challenges them with the facts and they shrug it off as being overly critical. It’s the message they care about and they find it inconvenient when their vision isn’t supported by reality.

AOC is only a freshman House member. Hopefully she’ll learn as the years go by.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-shocked-shocked-to-know-that-dancing-is-going-on/827186/94 "2019-01-08T18:45:45Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> … AOC’s remarks keep getting attention because conservative media and conservative pundits keep giving her lots of attention. …

60 Minutes, that bastion of conservatism :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-shocked-shocked-to-know-that-dancing-is-going-on/827186/95 "2019-01-08T19:10:18Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> 60 Minutes, that bastion of conservatism :rolleyes:

And _The Atlantic_. 😃

All part of the right-wing smear machine, and its dastardly plan of destroying liberals by putting them into prime-time.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-shocked-shocked-to-know-that-dancing-is-going-on/827186/96 "2019-01-08T20:21:00Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> I am sure I am not the only one hoping against hope that her response to it would include some variant of “I was young! I needed the money!” Failing that, it would involve Mickey Rooney and putting on a show, down in the old barn.
> 
> _:sigh:_
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> First it was a professional wrestler who became governor of Minnesota. Then a comedian who became a Senator from the same state. Next a President from _The Apprentice_. Now it’s a Representative who couldn’t get on _Dancing with the Stars_.
> 
> Regards,  
> Shodan

Does Barry Manilow know you raid his wardrobe?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-shocked-shocked-to-know-that-dancing-is-going-on/827186/97 "2019-01-08T20:58:36Z")

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The new AOC outrage: She used to go by the name Sandy.

> **[Why Conservatives Are So Obsessed With Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s High School...](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/01/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-sandy-nickname-conservative-mocking.html)**
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> Smoking-gun proof the new congresswoman isn’t who she says she is.

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-shocked-shocked-to-know-that-dancing-is-going-on/827186/98 "2019-01-08T21:10:17Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> Of course nobody _has_ to, but as long as she keeps making statements like this:
> 
> she’ll probably keep getting attention.

It’s almost as if people deliberately want to ignore the context…

> [@](#):
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> Anderson Cooper: One of the criticisms of you is that— that your math is fuzzy. The Washington Post recently awarded you four Pinocchios—
> 
> Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: Oh my goodness—
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> Anderson Cooper: —for misstating some statistics about Pentagon spending?
> 
> Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: If people want to really blow up one figure here or one word there, I would argue that they’re missing the forest for the trees. I think that there’s a lot of people more concerned about being precisely, factually, and semantically correct than about being morally right.
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> Anderson Cooper: But being factually correct is important—
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> Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: It’s absolutely important. And whenever I make a mistake. I say, “Okay, this was clumsy.” and then I restate what my point was.

Which seems to be… a reasonable response. But yet, people seem to want to deliberately chop off the last part of it to make a very different portrayal than what AOC meant.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-shocked-shocked-to-know-that-dancing-is-going-on/827186/99 "2019-01-08T21:18:28Z")

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> [@ISiddiqui](#):
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> It’s almost as if people deliberately want to ignore the context…
> 
> Which seems to be… a reasonable response. But yet, people seem to want to deliberately chop off the last part of it to make a very different portrayal than what AOC meant.

Yeah, fuck those evil bastards running “60 Minutes” twitter account. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-shocked-shocked-to-know-that-dancing-is-going-on/827186/100 "2019-01-08T21:23:49Z")

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60 Minutes wants to get clicks. What’s your excuse?

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