# I am so fucking sick of the way the left and the right talk to each other

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 20, 2011, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-the-way-the-left-and-the-right-talk-to-each-other/600215 "2011-10-20T02:23:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-the-way-the-left-and-the-right-talk-to-each-other/600215/61 "2011-10-20T20:06:26Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> You’re right. The lefties on this MB are more guilty of this than the Righties. You will note that in my post I specifically referred to this MB, and not to the general public or politicians. That’s something you threw in there thinking it would stick to me, but I didn’t bring up the subject of any sort of equivalence, you did.

An honest question here, **John** , how do you feel about the rhetoric used by the general public and politicians? Which side uses derogatory language more often?

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**Author:** ![FuriousGeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@FuriousGeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FuriousGeorge)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-the-way-the-left-and-the-right-talk-to-each-other/600215/62 "2011-10-20T20:11:04Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> You are on the way to jerk highway.

The Jerk Store just called, they’re running out of YOU. -George Costanza

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-the-way-the-left-and-the-right-talk-to-each-other/600215/63 "2011-10-20T20:13:01Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](#):
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> An honest question here, **John** , how do you feel about the rhetoric used by the general public and politicians? Which side uses derogatory language more often?

All he knows is, his gut says “maybe.”

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-the-way-the-left-and-the-right-talk-to-each-other/600215/64 "2011-10-20T20:20:54Z")

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> [@smiling\_bandit](#):
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> Yes, but then why is the _Democrats_ instead of the Democratics? 😃

[We’re the Aristocrats!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGVL_reIuJM)

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-the-way-the-left-and-the-right-talk-to-each-other/600215/65 "2011-10-20T20:46:43Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> We’ve had this discussion before, but especially on this message board and in GD to see the childish name slinging… it just degrades the level of discussion. I really thing we should just disregard anyone’s post who tries to win points by name calling on the other side. You think you’re clever, but in reality you’re just juvenile.

Libertard!

There. I feel much younger.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-the-way-the-left-and-the-right-talk-to-each-other/600215/66 "2011-10-20T20:58:37Z")

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“Secret Muslim” makes me crazy.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-the-way-the-left-and-the-right-talk-to-each-other/600215/67 "2011-10-20T21:04:52Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> I suppose you could misuse the term .

That’s pretty much what the OP is about, amongst other things. I’m glad I could help you become a little less stupid.

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**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-the-way-the-left-and-the-right-talk-to-each-other/600215/68 "2011-10-20T22:01:51Z")

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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> That’s exactly the same—nobody ever said “Ronald Wilson Reagan.” It’s exactly the sort of juvenile tactic I remember from elementary school: kids being annoying, and when called on it, going, “but it’s technically correct!” Yes, but it’s also flouting convention in order to be annoying. Quit it.

There was a lot of George Herbert Walker Bush when he was running against Clinton. It was a way to highlight his blueblood upbringing as opposed to Clinton’s.

The nonsense against Obama is far worse, and done for worse reasons IMHO (catering to racism and anti-Islamic attitudes among the electorate).

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-the-way-the-left-and-the-right-talk-to-each-other/600215/69 "2011-10-20T22:37:04Z")

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> [@Lord\_Ashtar](#):
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> That’s pretty much what the OP is about, amongst other things. I’m glad I could help you become a little less stupid.

What is wrong with you?

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**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-the-way-the-left-and-the-right-talk-to-each-other/600215/70 "2011-10-20T22:44:39Z")

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> [@tnetennba](#):
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> Because, like “tax and spend,” it’s a basic function of government

You are aware that many people, perhaps most, disagree with this, right? e.g. [Redistribution of income and wealth - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redistribution_of_wealth#Criticism)

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-the-way-the-left-and-the-right-talk-to-each-other/600215/71 "2011-10-20T23:13:48Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> > [@Lord Ashtar](#):
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> > That’s pretty much what the OP is about, amongst other things. I’m glad I could help you become a little less stupid.
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> What is wrong with you?

I don’t think anything is wrong here. “Stupid” is a a valid word that has its own [wikipedia entry](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupidity#Definition_of_Stupidity). It has no slant left or right and is simply accurately describing the situation. I don’t see how you could take offense.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-the-way-the-left-and-the-right-talk-to-each-other/600215/72 "2011-10-21T00:00:48Z")

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> [@FuriousGeorge](#):
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> The Jerk Store just called, they’re running out of YOU. -George Costanza

Have not had that thrown at me any time in the last 10 years, but my suggested response is;

“Wow. You must be their best customer if they call you in advance to let you know what they’re out of”.

Although it could be argued that a better response would be

“You must be their top supplier of jerkitude if they call you to let you know they’re running out of product”

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**Author:** ![FuriousGeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@FuriousGeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FuriousGeorge)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-the-way-the-left-and-the-right-talk-to-each-other/600215/73 "2011-10-21T00:04:06Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Have not had that thrown at me any time in the last 10 years, but my suggested response is;
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> “Wow. You must be their best customer if they call you in advance to let you know what they’re out of”.
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> Although it could be argued that a better response would be
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> “You must be their top supplier of jerkitude if they call you to let you know they’re running out of product”

The proper response is, of course, “'That’s ok, you’re their best seller.”

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-the-way-the-left-and-the-right-talk-to-each-other/600215/74 "2011-10-21T00:04:43Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> What is wrong with you?

I think he’s being all meta-like with regards to the topic of the OP.

Or he’s just yanking your chain. One of the two.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-the-way-the-left-and-the-right-talk-to-each-other/600215/75 "2011-10-21T00:14:22Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](#):
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> An honest question here, **John** , how do you feel about the rhetoric used by the general public and politicians? Which side uses derogatory language more often?

It’s much harder to gauge the “general public” than it is to gauge this MB, the latter being a much smaller set. But the conservatives seem to be waaaaaay more vocal on the radio, with the likes of Limbaugh and Hannity and those guys sure do sling the shit. I really couldn’t say about the “general public”. I have a lot of conservative friends, but we don’t talk politics much.

Politicians… I find myself more aligned with Democrats than Republicans these days, and while the Democrats have a few firebrands, I would say the Republicans have a lot more people focusing on negativity and on demonizing the other side. They also tend to be more disciplined, IMO, on toeing the party line than the Democrats are. What I find more disturbing about the Republicans is the substance of what the likes of the Palins, Bachmanns and the Santorums rather than the tone. The tone is bad, but words are only words. When you’re pushing bad policies, you’re doing a lot more damage.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-the-way-the-left-and-the-right-talk-to-each-other/600215/76 "2011-10-21T00:24:21Z")

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> [@FuriousGeorge](#):
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> The proper response is, of course, “'That’s ok, you’re their best seller.”

To which a learned gentleman responds “Yeah well I had sex with your wife”.

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**Author:** ![FuriousGeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@FuriousGeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FuriousGeorge)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-the-way-the-left-and-the-right-talk-to-each-other/600215/77 "2011-10-21T00:25:21Z")

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> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#):
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> To which a learned gentleman responds “Yeah well I had sex with your wife”.

\<Whispers to Tao\> My wife is in a coma.

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**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-the-way-the-left-and-the-right-talk-to-each-other/600215/78 "2011-10-21T01:18:47Z")

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That was an awesome username/post combo, **FuriousGeorge**.

“Yeah, well, the life support machine called, and … (mumble mumble) … THAT’S IT! YOU’RE BEAT, REILLY! YOU JUST SCREWED YOURSELF!”

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-the-way-the-left-and-the-right-talk-to-each-other/600215/79 "2011-10-21T02:10:02Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> It’s much harder to gauge the “general public” than it is to gauge this MB, the latter being a much smaller set. But the conservatives seem to be waaaaaay more vocal on the radio, with the likes of Limbaugh and Hannity and those guys sure do sling the shit. I really couldn’t say about the “general public”. I have a lot of conservative friends, but we don’t talk politics much.
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> Politicians… I find myself more aligned with Democrats than Republicans these days, and while the Democrats have a few firebrands, I would say the Republicans have a lot more people focusing on negativity and on demonizing the other side. They also tend to be more disciplined, IMO, on toeing the party line than the Democrats are. What I find more disturbing about the Republicans is the substance of what the likes of the Palins, Bachmanns and the Santorums rather than the tone. The tone is bad, but words are only words. When you’re pushing bad policies, you’re doing a lot more damage.

You have to give Rush some credit. He does come up with some interesting ways of insulting lefties. Feminazis is a good term. Wrong but pretty inventive. He has others but I have not heard his show in a few years. I don’t have enough discipline to not break radios.

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**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-the-way-the-left-and-the-right-talk-to-each-other/600215/80 "2011-10-21T04:22:48Z")

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> [@Kyomara](#):
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> crony capitalism

Interpreting the OP a bit to mean the common uses of these terms in current debate about US politics, I almost totally agree. But I don’t get this one. What’s wrong with ‘crony capitalism’? I almost only hear this when the speaker is actually talking about cronyism or corruption in business - particularly how it relates to the government. Can someone explain why this one belongs on the list?

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