# I. Am. So. Fucking. Sick. Of. THOSE BIGOTS!!!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-those-bigots/243365>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 3, 2004, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-those-bigots/243365 "2004-05-03T23:08:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2004, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-those-bigots/243365/21 "2004-05-04T02:45:27Z")

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**Weirddave** , how 'bout this: I come to work with some friends. _Your_ workplace, in case you haven’t caught on yet. I berate you, I insult you, I do everything I can to make your life hell short of walking up and punching you in your face. I verbally assault you and I make it impossible for you to do whatever it is you do, in other words, but it’s OK because _I’ve_ got the First Amendment.

(And, in case it isn’t clear, _you’ve_ got dick shit.)

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2004, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-those-bigots/243365/22 "2004-05-04T02:49:26Z")

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> [@county](#):
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> Tell them to fuck off and forget about “taping” anybody. You will be dealing with people like that all your life, might as well learn to deal with it.

My thoughts exactly. If I gave it a second thought everytime I had to be around idiots like this I would still be processing second thoughts from a decade ago.

And when the OP said that one of them “called for” the cruel death of every gay person that was probably the standard “hell shit damn, I say we just run 'em all over with one’a them thar bigfoot monster trucks” that **every** insecure, immature, assholed teenager with no hair on his balls says at one point or another. No one said he specifically or even actually threatened anyone.

Where did you people grow up? Pleasantville? You have to deal with people like this in the real world.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2004, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-those-bigots/243365/23 "2004-05-04T02:53:10Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> Where did you people grow up? Pleasantville? You have to deal with people like this in the real world.

Sure do, but there’s more than one way to “deal” with 'em, too. I like the ones that involve hot pokers, but YMMV.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2004, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-those-bigots/243365/24 "2004-05-04T02:59:03Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Sure do, but there’s more than one way to “deal” with 'em, too. I like the ones that involve hot pokers, but YMMV.

I like the way that involves not turning into a total loser and getting better jobs than them, and then having them act happy to see you and kiss your ass in the bar a few years later. Until you get bored and walk away and they yell “good seein’ you, bro!”

Of the people I went to school with who were still acting like this past the 8th grade, **none** of them are doing shit with their lives now. That’s the best payback for me.

YMM also V.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2004, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-those-bigots/243365/25 "2004-05-04T03:04:19Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> I like the way that involves not turning into a total loser and getting better jobs than them, and then having them act happy to see you and kiss your ass in the bar a few years later. Until you get bored and walk away and they yell “good seein’ you, bro!”

Why not combine them?

“Yeah, I’m president and CEO over at Red Hot Pokers, Inc. Great job. I just bought Porsche. No, not _a_ Porsche. I mean the whole company. Hey, you need a job? We’re hiring now, and I’ve got _just_ the position for you!”

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2004, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-those-bigots/243365/26 "2004-05-04T03:07:06Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> I’ve got _just_ the position for you!"

We call it “the willing participant.”  
😃

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2004, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-those-bigots/243365/27 "2004-05-04T10:57:20Z")

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> [@dwalin](#):
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> Practically every day, these . . . classmates of mine get in my face about being liberal, and not a bigot like they are.

I don’t think that word means what you think it means.

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**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2004, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-those-bigots/243365/28 "2004-05-04T16:22:29Z")

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You know what **Libertarian**? You’ve really become a bore. Find a new schtick.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2004, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-those-bigots/243365/29 "2004-05-04T17:18:07Z")

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> [@lezlers](#):
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> You know what **Libertarian**? You’ve really become a bore. Find a new schtick.

You are who again?

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2004, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-those-bigots/243365/30 "2004-05-07T01:54:50Z")

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> [@Libertarian](#):
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> I don’t think that word means what you think it means.

Are you objecting to my use of the word ‘liberal’? **Libertarian** , I hate it when you act like this. Please stop being so knee-jerky about politics. Thank you.

> [@Cisco](#):
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> And when the OP said that one of them “called for” the cruel death of every gay person that was probably the standard “hell shit damn, I say we just run 'em all over with one’a them thar bigfoot monster trucks” that every insecure, immature, assholed teenager with no hair on his balls says at one point or another. No one said he specifically or even actually threatened anyone.

Well, if you consider suggesting:

1. gladiatorial games
2. revival of guillotine
3. summary execution
4. life imprisonment (technically not calling for deaths, but you get the point)  
standard, then sure.

> [@Cisco](#):
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> It’s not illegal, or even against the rules at any school I know of, to be a jerk or a bigot, but it is (in some cases) to record someone without their knowledge.
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> It’s also probably against the rules at your school to have a palm pilot in class .

Kindly give me some credit for intelligence, **Cis**. I asked permission of one of them to tape him, and he agreed, stipulating that I tell him when I start taping.

By the way, it isn’t against the rules to have a Palm anywhere at TJ.

> [@Cisco](#):
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> Where did you people grow up? Pleasantville? You have to deal with people like this in the real world.

Yes, I grew up for ten years in a horrible school, the same school to which **iampunha** went. I prefer to deal with bigots as little as possible, which is why I’m going to all this trouble.

**’Punha** , school ends on the 21st, if that makes any difference. If you came in you’d have to get a Visitor’s tag, but that would be well worth it for the encounter.

**county** , see my reply to **Cisco**.

**clair** , my parents are fine with it, just in case anyone was wondering.

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**Author:** ![kung\_fu\_lola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kung\_fu\_lola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kung_fu_lola)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2004, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-those-bigots/243365/31 "2004-05-07T06:23:55Z")

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Schools are not required to give their students freedom of speech. Schools are required to provide an atmosphere free of intimidation, harassment and hatred.

It doesn’t matter whether or not that hatred is supposedly justified, or whether that intimidation will actually lead anywhere.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2004, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-those-bigots/243365/32 "2004-05-07T10:36:06Z")

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> Are you objecting to my use of the word ‘liberal’? Libertarian, I hate it when you act like this.

No, I’m objecting to your use of the word “bigot”, and I hate it when bigots bitch about bigotry.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2004, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-those-bigots/243365/33 "2004-05-07T10:45:37Z")

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You have proclaimed your liberalism to your classmates, and they are giving you shctick by being as obnoxiously bigotted as they can be?

Have you ever considered that they might be trying to yank your chains?

Like, seriously?

If you take this to your school administration, you are the one who is going to feel foolish.

Just suck it up, and let them have their fun. If they end up being morons who drive pick-up trucks and live in trailer parks, you will have the last laugh.

Honestly, don’t sweat the small stuff.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2004, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-those-bigots/243365/34 "2004-05-07T16:45:13Z")

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**kambuckta** , in the OP, I said they were trying to yank my chain.

> [@me](#):
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> …just to try to yank my chain…

> [@kambuckta](#):
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> Just suck it up, and let them have their fun.

Why? Why should I let them get away with this? ‘All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.’

**Lib** , are you calling me a bigot, or pretending that gay-bashers aren’t? Either way, you’ve got some explaining to do.

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**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2004, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-those-bigots/243365/35 "2004-05-07T18:49:52Z")

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> [@dwalin](#):
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> Practically every day, these . . . classmates of mine get in my face about being liberal, and not a bigot like they are. They claim that gays want “special rights”, since the accoutrements of marriage are obviously extraordinary, and not those that they deserve.

Considering that this implies that you are very…vocal about your liberalism, this is a perfectly warranted reaction.

> [@](#):
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> One of them has repeatedly called for the cruel and/or unusual death of every gay person.

That is not.

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> I would give everything I have ever owned and will ever own to remove every single bigot from power permanently.

If you define “bigot” as anyone who disagrees with you about gay marriage…that may be good cause for their disagreement in droves. (still doesn’t justfity the threats)

(The Hobbit’s pretty good, btw)

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2004, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-those-bigots/243365/36 "2004-05-07T18:54:48Z")

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> [@Dwalin](#):
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> Lib, are you calling me a bigot, or pretending that gay-bashers aren’t? Either way, you’ve got some explaining to do.

Yes, I am calling you a bigot. In fact, I have done so three times now. I’ll stand by until you catch up.

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2004, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-those-bigots/243365/37 "2004-05-07T18:58:59Z")

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Hey Lib, looks like that advice wring gave you is really going straight to heart eh?

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2004, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-those-bigots/243365/38 "2004-05-07T19:27:20Z")

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> [@jarbabyj](#):
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> Hey Lib, looks like that advice wring gave you is really going straight to heart eh?

Oh, great. Here comes Jar with yet another cheap shot whose irrelevance is exceded only by its hubris. The very serious charge of bigotry is being levelled by a person who admits that his adversaries are merely chain yankers who take advantage of his liberal weaniness. I am coming to the conclusion that a substantial number of people do not even know what liberalism is. My own philosophy is the most liberal possible, and I am even considering changing my user name to Liberal. Bigotry is manifested by ignorance of the object of hatred. The OP is bigoted against those who hold the view that marriage is for one man and one woman. Calling them bigots belies that fact. And they use his own bigotry against him to drive him up the wall.

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2004, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-those-bigots/243365/39 "2004-05-07T19:29:20Z")

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you’ve lost it.

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2004, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-so-fucking-sick-of-those-bigots/243365/40 "2004-05-07T20:07:49Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> **Weirddave** , how 'bout this: I come to work with some friends. _Your_ workplace, in case you haven’t caught on yet. I berate you, I insult you, I do everything I can to make your life hell short of walking up and punching you in your face. I verbally assault you and I make it impossible for you to do whatever it is you do, in other words, but it’s OK because _I’ve_ got the First Amendment.
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> (And, in case it isn’t clear, _you’ve_ got dick shit.)

Come on over. We’re hiring, just let me know, and I can get you an interview.

When I see any evidence that this is anything other than a couple of jerks yanking someone’s chain (the OP’s own words, BTW) just to watch him get all red and puffy, then I’ll consider it. Until then, I maintain that the OP is better off learning how not to overreact to everything anyone says, especially since that seems to be the reaction the jerks in the OP are hoping to cause.

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