# I am sorry, but I have to bitch about this **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 13, 2001, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-sorry-but-i-have-to-bitch-about-this/72354 "2001-07-13T09:51:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ENugent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4af34b/32.png) [@ENugent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ENugent)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2001, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-sorry-but-i-have-to-bitch-about-this/72354/21 "2001-07-13T21:33:19Z")
Let me join the chorus of those saying that the board has been much faster of late, and I appreciate the unpaid work going into making that happen. Thank you, mods and administrators! ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2001, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-sorry-but-i-have-to-bitch-about-this/72354/22 "2001-07-13T22:08:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by techchick68 \* > **So? What do we do? Create more spin off boards?** I did my part. šŸ˜ƒ > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by TubaDiva_ > \*\*These bugs pop up over time and usage . . . as the board grows in size and complexity, things emerge. Weā€™re working on 'em best as we can. \*\* And sometimes you get a little help from your friendsā€¦ šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2001, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-sorry-but-i-have-to-bitch-about-this/72354/23 "2001-07-14T01:45:06Z")
It doesnā€™t seem that slow. After all, I always have more than one browser window open at a time, a book on hand. I let it wait, I take it leisurely. I think the mods have been doing very well lately. Itā€™s been slow at times, and if I go to read it over at the museum it often times out, but so? Chill, techchick. Have a cookie. ---
**Author:** ![Sylkyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/da6949/32.png) [@Sylkyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylkyn)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2001, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-sorry-but-i-have-to-bitch-about-this/72354/24 "2001-07-14T02:19:05Z")
Iā€™m glad to see Iā€™m not the only one on the boards that does **not** have a problem with slowness. Iā€™ve often considered myself pretty lucky with the speed I can load pages. I wondered to myself why so many others were having trouble, so I kept reading the threads that explained what it could be or why it was happening to certain areas or at certain times. Just in case it decided to happen to me, as well. I have had slowness at my place of business, but I know there it has to be because of our connection. I can time out repeatedly there, leave work at 5:00, get home at 5:30, fire up my home pc, and BINGO! Fast SDMB! Like it had been running on greased lightning all day. I only have a 56k modem at home, too. I donā€™t really care if itā€™s slow at work. After all, I AM at work there. I can always be doing _something_ work related. I also have noticed it being faster (in my case, that means itā€™s really flying) the last couple of weeks. Even at work. So, I guess all I can really do is say thanks to the Mods and Admins for hurrying up what I already considered to be a kick-ass, smoothly running board. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2001, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-sorry-but-i-have-to-bitch-about-this/72354/25 "2001-07-14T21:54:00Z")
Slow boards - hah! When I logon at 0900 UK time, they close the board for maintenance. :rolleyes: But I love them anyway. Currently Iā€™m in Belgium, playing in a chess tournament. I can logon to an Internet cafe (at 2330 local time) and still visit the SDMB for nothing! (even though Belgian keyboards are a right pain in the bum: the A is in a different place, and there are 3 characters on some keysā€¦) ---
**Author:** ![porcupine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac91a4/32.png) [@porcupine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/porcupine)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2001, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-sorry-but-i-have-to-bitch-about-this/72354/26 "2001-07-14T22:25:08Z")
Count me in as another who has noticed some improvement in the last few weeks, particularly during the day from work. Though things are sometimes erratic and unpredictable (one minute things are very fast, another minute things are verrrrrrrry slow), overall I would say the performance of the board has noticably improved. Thanks to everyone who has been working on improving things. I also think a 28.8 connection and a suck-ass provider like AOL might have just a _little_ something to do with your problem, **techchick**. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2001, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-sorry-but-i-have-to-bitch-about-this/72354/27 "2001-07-14T22:52:13Z")
Iā€™ve noticed a significant speed-up as well, over the last few weeks. Itā€™s been really great ā€“ I think the mods and admins all rule. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2001, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-sorry-but-i-have-to-bitch-about-this/72354/28 "2001-07-15T00:55:26Z")
I know this is just a wacky, wild, waaay out there guess, but could the slowdown possibly have anything to do with the number of threads we start? Huh? Maybe? This is a board to fight ignorance. Often times one has to stretch the thread out on a rack to find the ignorance thatā€™s being fought. Even in MPSIMS, there is the occasional microscopic grain of ignorance fighting in threads like post count parties or appreciation threads when we learn a little more about a person. But these ā€œIā€™ll post the first line to a song and everyone else keep it going.ā€ well, Iā€™m at a loss. Truly, Iā€™m shrugging my shoulders at what ignorance Iā€™m supposed to be fighting. I feel as if just looking at the thread titles puts force feeds ignorance directly into my cerebellum. What are we learning? The lyrics to a song? Look on google! Proving that you knew the lyrics to the song? Heeeeeeeeyā€¦we all did. I award those threads no points, and may God have mercy on their souls. ---
**Author:** ![porcupine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac91a4/32.png) [@porcupine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/porcupine)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2001, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-sorry-but-i-have-to-bitch-about-this/72354/29 "2001-07-15T01:13:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Enderw24 \* > \*\*But these ā€œIā€™ll post the first line to a song and everyone else keep it going.ā€ well, Iā€™m at a loss. > \*\* Thank you, **Ender**. I just said in chat today that I thought those threads are even _more_ pointless than post parties (which I also donā€™t get the appeal of). I felt like posting a link to a site with the complete lyrics, but I restrained myself. ---
**Author:** ![capacitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e47774/32.png) [@capacitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capacitor)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2001, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-sorry-but-i-have-to-bitch-about-this/72354/30 "2001-07-15T05:19:25Z")
hey tubadiva, you mentioned about AOL being resource hog related to the computer being used. Well, does the effect that AOL has on the client reverberate to the server the client is accessing? And can this resource hogging cause the latency on part of the client and the server, affecting other connections? I get these weird 100% resource use spikes myself, and I use Earthlink. ---
**Author:** ![Zenster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/cdc98d/32.png) [@Zenster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zenster)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2001, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-sorry-but-i-have-to-bitch-about-this/72354/31 "2001-07-15T05:45:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Scylla \* > \*\*I happen to think that the performance and service of theis **free** forum is exemplary. > > I wish I got as much service and commitment from the majority of things which I actually have to pay for. \*\* Author, author! ---
**Author:** ![Hazel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e56c9b/32.png) [@Hazel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hazel)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2001, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-sorry-but-i-have-to-bitch-about-this/72354/32 "2001-07-15T05:50:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ENugent \* > \*\*Let me join the chorus of those saying that the board has been much faster of late, and I appreciate the unpaid work going into making that happen. Thank you, mods and administrators! \*\* I agree. Ever since the types of searches one could do were reduced, things have been faster, esp. late at night (on the east coast of the US). ---
**Author:** ![techchick68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@techchick68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/techchick68)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2001, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-sorry-but-i-have-to-bitch-about-this/72354/33 "2001-07-16T06:16:54Z")
**Tuba** I have an AOL address but I donā€™t use AOL to connect to the 'net unless my dial up is on drugs. I can usually tell when itā€™s my connection thatā€™s bogging down on me and not the site. I frequent many things at once time. **particlewill** Itā€™s not my connection speed so much as itā€™s the SDMB. Why do I know that? Well, I can access other areas of the 'net with shitty speed and have much better results. Say Fathom and the Una Board among other sites that are message boards or other sites that are database intensive. (I do frequent more than the above listed.) Oh and as far as your ā€œpatheticā€ quote and that I should be sympatheticā€¦well a hardy, kiss my butt to you. I am not mearly whining over the SDMB I am stating that I think that some decisions and actions should be made for EVERYONE you troglodite (did I spell that right?) Anyhow, I am not here to pick you like a carcass but I do wish you would see the meaning of my posts rather than looking at it as a whiney little techchickā€¦ As for the idea that there are others on the SDMB late at night, I am aware of this. What I am trying to get at is we need a solution for the SDMB and those of us that love this site. It also might help others in the future if they run a message board. I have noticed that late at night itā€™s even slowā€¦not as painfully slow as the day time but it has become increasingly slower in the last few weeks. Tonight, itā€™s much smoother but come later in the week it will probably slow down. Oh and BTW, I am a board owner and not a moderator anywhere anymore except my poor excuse for a message board. My ties are still out there but my moderating duties have ended elsewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Badtz\_Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e36b37/32.png) [@Badtz\_Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Badtz_Maru)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2001, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-sorry-but-i-have-to-bitch-about-this/72354/34 "2001-07-16T06:44:14Z")
BTW, I paid attention tonight, it was still slow for me until about 11:30 PM Central, when it sped up greatly. This is ALWAYS the case for me. techchick, just because some sites are loading fast when you are having problems with SDMB doesnā€™t mean that itā€™s a problem with the board servers. There could be high latency and/or packet loss on some router between the POP you are dialing in to and the SDMB, but you wouldnā€™t pass through that router going to most other places. If itā€™s not a problem with your system or ISP, then this is probably the cause of your problems. I NEVER experience slowness after 11:30 PM or so. I do experience slowness at some other sites at particular times though, and when I run a traceroute itā€™s usuall the same peering point where things are slowing down - Iā€™m sharing an OC3 with a half-dozen people at night, so any slowness I encounter is NOT my connection. ---
**Author:** ![Pnuk\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Pnuk\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pnuk_Guy)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2001, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-sorry-but-i-have-to-bitch-about-this/72354/35 "2001-07-16T12:39:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Enderw24 \* > \*\*What are we learning? The lyrics to a song? Look on google! Proving that you knew the lyrics to the song? Heeeeeeeeyā€¦we all did. > > I award those threads no points, and may God have mercy on their souls. \*\* And even worse than that, people are trying to have fun! Sweet Jesus on a pogostick, how on earth are we gonna survive? They must be stopped! I suggest we ask the mods to close every thread that doesnā€™t live up to the ā€˜fighting ignoranceā€™ motto. Who cares about the Disneyland mascots? Jeesh, if I needed to know that I could have bought a book! Someone saw some wacky things today! Thanks for telling me that and forcing me to waste my time on pointless threads. Posted in MPSIMS, nonetheless! Itā€™ll never work. But I do agreeā€¦ those lyric posts are irritating. ---
**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2001, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-sorry-but-i-have-to-bitch-about-this/72354/36 "2001-07-16T12:41:09Z")
Iā€™ve been meaning to check on this for a while: > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Anthracite \* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by techchick68 \* > > **So? What do we do? Create more spin off boards?** > > I did my part. šŸ˜ƒ Where is this mysterious ā€œUna Boardā€ of which I keep hearing? Whenever I see mention of it, I think ā€œI should check that outā€ but I canā€™t find it. Help. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2001, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-sorry-but-i-have-to-bitch-about-this/72354/37 "2001-07-16T12:48:00Z")
JeffB - I mailed it to you. Una ---
**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2001, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-sorry-but-i-have-to-bitch-about-this/72354/38 "2001-07-16T13:09:38Z")
Thanks, I got it. ---
**Author:** ![Soda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@Soda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soda)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2001, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-sorry-but-i-have-to-bitch-about-this/72354/39 "2001-07-16T13:39:24Z")
Hey Una, would you mind e-mailing me too? Thanks a bunch. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2001, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-sorry-but-i-have-to-bitch-about-this/72354/40 "2001-07-16T17:47:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Pnuk Guy \* > I suggest we ask the mods to close every thread that doesnā€™t live up to the ā€˜fighting ignoranceā€™ motto. > \*\* Why pnuk guy, I hadnā€™t ever thought about that. Thank you for the great suggestion! Mods, can we look into that please? Seriously, has it come to the point where, on a board designed to fight ignorance, weā€™ve actually become surprised when someone suggests that it might be a good idea to fight ignorance? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-sorry-but-i-have-to-bitch-about-this/72354.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-sorry-but-i-have-to-bitch-about-this/72354.md?page=3)