# I am the lowest form of life there is. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 12, 2000, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-the-lowest-form-of-life-there-is/32913 "2000-09-12T18:07:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![tradesilicon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/439d5e/32.png) [@tradesilicon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tradesilicon)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2000, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-the-lowest-form-of-life-there-is/32913/21 "2000-09-12T21:17:40Z")
This is sooooo painful, I have to cheer for a team who went from the absolute top of the NFL to the absolute bottom, and shows no signs of coming back anytime soon. But I had all those good years, so I can’t complain too much, and I ain’t gonna switch, no way. I also like watching the Raiders, (even though they did betray Oakland) and I hope they get their day. (That was one helluva game they had too). John, you will have no joy with your new team, go back home to the Redskins, kiss and make up. Next week will be better. ---
**Author:** ![Falcon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/49beb7/32.png) [@Falcon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Falcon)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2000, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-the-lowest-form-of-life-there-is/32913/22 "2000-09-12T22:01:58Z")
[QUOTE] \*Originally posted by UncleBeer \* \*\* [quoteOh, and Falcon? Pllbbbbttt! I’m a UT alumnus, so you can bite me right in my Happy Valley.\*\*[/QUOTE] But will you pay me a dollar? And will Jophiel mind? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Milossarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Milossarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Milossarian)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2000, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-the-lowest-form-of-life-there-is/32913/23 "2000-09-12T23:52:54Z")
> [@](#): > > Milo, the Lions’ asses are going to be kicked to shreds next weekend. I offer my condolences in advance. See you back here next Monday, RezDog, to eat some Baltimore Raven. ---
**Author:** ![Milossarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Milossarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Milossarian)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2000, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-the-lowest-form-of-life-there-is/32913/24 "2000-09-12T23:55:26Z")
Point of clarification: That will be **you** eating the crow. The Bucs are at least as over-rated as the 'Skins. Read earlier warning about how well Detroit plays at home. As for the Lions, we’ll just keep winning with spit, string, gum and duck tape all the way to the NFC Central title, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Mojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Mojo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mojo)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2000, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-the-lowest-form-of-life-there-is/32913/25 "2000-09-13T00:01:14Z")
John- I like to think of myself as a Skins fan, but if Jeff George ever starts a game I’ll be joining you. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2000, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-the-lowest-form-of-life-there-is/32913/26 "2000-09-13T00:43:00Z")
mr. corrado, you give up way to easily. here i sit in my chair a dolfan. no shula, no marino. do i give up? nnnnooooo. i stay with my team. the miami dolphins… finest team in football. 'course being a red sox fan graces one with great patience, and unbelievably huge blind loyalty. ---
**Author:** ![aha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eada6e/32.png) [@aha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aha)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2000, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-the-lowest-form-of-life-there-is/32913/27 "2000-09-13T00:45:57Z")
John I am beginning to feel that way about the Cowboys. But like a dumb butt I keep giving them one more chance. Succkerrr! ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2000, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-the-lowest-form-of-life-there-is/32913/28 "2000-09-13T01:14:11Z")
Perhaps if Brad Johnson had remembered he was supposed to be throwing to the redskins instead of the lions . . . but that’s a moot point now. Falcon, remember the year we were 7-1 after 8 games? And then went 1-7? Wasn’t THAT fun! ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2000, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-the-lowest-form-of-life-there-is/32913/29 "2000-09-13T02:36:04Z")
I’ve been rooting for the Redskins since about the time _Otto Graham_ took over as coach. (I know, I’m ancient - if I start drooling, clean me up and wheel me back to my room, OK? :)) I’ve been through bad times, and good, and bad again, with them. And finally, starting with the last few games of last season, good again. Maybe they’ll come around this year, maybe not. (I’m betting on not; no matter how good the defense is, without a game-breaking receiver - see ya next year, Michael Westbrook - their offense will be quite limited.) But either way, I’m in their corner. I pass no judgment on you, John - after all, this is a _game_, an _entertainment_, in the end. It really isn’t _that_ big a deal. So there are worse things than switching teams. But at least you didn’t become a _Cowboys_ fan. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Milossarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Milossarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Milossarian)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2000, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-the-lowest-form-of-life-there-is/32913/30 "2000-09-13T02:59:58Z")
Iampunha said: > [@](#): > > Falcon, remember the year we were 7-1 after 8 games? And then went 1-7? Wasn’t THAT fun! Back in 1980 (when the Lions _other_ very good running back who wore the number 20 was a rookie - Billy Sims) the Lions started the season 4-0. Some of the players, led by their safety, Jimmy “Spiderman” Allen (I SWEAR I am not making this up) made a record to the title and tune of the hot song of the day, Queen’s “Another One Bites the Dust,” about how they were going to the Super Bowl. It stands as an historical precursor to the Bear’s “Super Bowl Shuffle” single and video of 1985. (I still remember almost all the words. Odd how some things stick in your head.) Anyway, they of course went into a tailspin, finished 7-9, didn’t even make the playoffs, and by the end of the season, the local stations in Detroit were playing a spoof record mocking the Lions, titled “Another One Beats Our Butts.” I could tell more stories of ineptitude and woe, but I try not to be redundant here. That one pretty much sums them all up. ---
**Author:** ![chique](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@chique](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chique)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2000, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-the-lowest-form-of-life-there-is/32913/31 "2000-09-13T03:08:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Aglarond \* > \*\*You want to talk about disappointment? I’ve been a Vikings fan since I was old enough to pledge allegiance. They live to rip out my heart during the playoffs, but I’m still rooting for em. \*\* Ditto. ::sigh:: Those guys have broken my heart so many times it’s reedickoolus. I stick with them, though - I have to, else I’d end up rooting for the damn Cheeseheads! ---
**Author:** ![Persephone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@Persephone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Persephone)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2000, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-the-lowest-form-of-life-there-is/32913/32 "2000-09-13T03:15:52Z")
I am not a football fan at all. But I remember the season of which Milo speaks. That season almost made me like football. Almost. I even remember one line of that Lions cover tune–“last year’s team was 2 & 14, but this is the year for New Orleans.” That’s how exciting that season was–if _I_ remember anything at all about football, it had to have been good. Oh well. I suppose if the Lions ever do anything great ever again in my or my great-grandchildren’s lifetime, I suppose I’ll pay attention. Until then, GO…uh, GO SOMEBODY! :::Persephone the sports non-fan slinks off::: ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@Lord\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Jim)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2000, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-the-lowest-form-of-life-there-is/32913/33 "2000-09-13T03:18:29Z")
A Cowboys fan checking in. I can certainly understand a Redskin fan _not_ even dreaming of being a Cowboys fan, but I couldn’t dream of being a Redskins fan either. I lived in St. Louis for 5 years before coming to Dallas. I loved the Cardinals (Conrad Dobler, Dan Dierdorf, Terry Metcaff, Jimmy Harte, Coach Don Corell). It was tough to be a Cowboys fan after being an arch-rival, but as the people I knew left and the team moved to Arizona, it became easy to give up on them and become a Cowboys fan. Falcon, you too can become a Cowboys fan if you really try. It’s better than being a Redskins fan. Try it, you’ll like it. Seriously though, as much reason as there is to hate the Cowboys, they are my hometown team and I can’t imagine hoping for someone to beat them. JC, even if you are/were a Redskins fan, you shouldn’t give up on them. Jim ---
**Author:** ![Frannie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Frannie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frannie)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2000, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-the-lowest-form-of-life-there-is/32913/34 "2000-09-13T03:52:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Drain Bead \* > \*\*The Ravens? > > Art Modell is going to hell, and you’re all going with him. > > Two wrongs don’t make a right, folks. Have some integrity. If you’re going to go turncoat (and that deserves a whole 'nother rant), at least root for a team that isn’t stolen. \*\* Yeah, what Drain said! ---
**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2000, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-the-lowest-form-of-life-there-is/32913/35 "2000-09-13T06:24:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by weirddave \* > \*\* > At least Art had the **class** to leave the name, heritage and ugly uniforms behind, something no other owner has done when he moved. \*\* Class? CLASS? The city of Cleveland & the Browns fans had to fight and raise a huge ruckus in order to keep the name, heritage, etc. Art (evil incarnate) didn’t give us nothing out of the goodness of his heart. ---
**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2000, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-the-lowest-form-of-life-there-is/32913/36 "2000-09-13T06:26:46Z")
p.s. GO TRIBE!!! ---
**Author:** ![kiffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d78d45/32.png) [@kiffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kiffa)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2000, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-the-lowest-form-of-life-there-is/32913/37 "2000-09-13T15:19:49Z")
Former Raiders fan; now a Jags fan. Yes, the second half of the Ravens/Jaguars game was fantastic. I’m not changing my team because they did play intelligently. The two major mistakes were due to inexperience resulting from the too-many injuries. Sigh, it’s going to be a rough year, but I will yell, cheer, scream just as loud as last year. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2000, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-the-lowest-form-of-life-there-is/32913/38 "2000-09-13T16:47:04Z")
> [@](#): > > Class? CLASS? The city of Cleveland & the Browns fans had to fight and raise a huge ruckus in order to keep the name, heritage, etc. Art (evil incarnate) didn’t give us nothing out of the goodness of his heart. My, my, what a stunning example of revisionalist history. Now pull up a chair and listen to some FACTS. Fact #1. A city has no legal right to the name of it’s sports team, no matter how wrong this is. Ask the folks in Houston who would like to cheer on the Oilers. Bud Adams retains the rights to that name, even though he’s no longer using it. Hell, ask us here in Baltimore every time we have to hear the name of our beloved Colts linked with Indianapolis. Fact #2. Art planned to announce he was leaving the name when he announced he was moving the team. His legal staff advised him not to, so he would have something to give back to settle the inevitable lawsuit, and that’s just what happened. He said “I’m moving”, Cleveland said “we’ll sue”, he said,“Drop the suit and I’ll leave the Browns heritage here.” and Cleveland said “O.K.” It worked out for both parties. Fact# 3. We don’t want your name, never did. Browns belong in Cleveland. Opinion #1. I don’t understand why you Clevelanders hate Art so much. He loved that mistake by the flaming lake for many years. He was very active in the community in ways we are proud to have him doing here. You guys didn’t like him as an owner before he left. You got a deal that we would have jumped at in 1984- same name and heritage, new stadium, guarenteed team in 3 years, new owner that you love, even help with financing from the NFL. He left because the city of Cleveland spent $700 million on the Cavs, Indians and R&RHOF, and made him play in that miserable excuse for a stadium. If you had built what you have now, he would still be there. I think we’re both better off now, so why not let it go? ---
**Author:** ![ReservoirDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8edcca/32.png) [@ReservoirDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ReservoirDog)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2000, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-the-lowest-form-of-life-there-is/32913/39 "2000-09-13T17:59:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Milossarian \* > **Point of clarification: That will be you eating the crow. The Bucs are at least as over-rated as the 'Skins. Read earlier warning about how well Detroit plays at home.** That’s a bold statement, considering that the “offense” of the toothless, clawless Lions has yet to score a touchdown! I suppose you think that they can win a _defensive_ battle with the Bucs? HA!! ---
**Author:** ![Bottle\_of\_Smoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Bottle\_of\_Smoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bottle_of_Smoke)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2000, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-the-lowest-form-of-life-there-is/32913/40 "2000-09-13T18:05:42Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by sandyr \* > \*\*Those guys have broken my heart so many times it’s reedickoolus. I stick with them, though - I have to, else I’d end up rooting for the damn Cheeseheads! \*\* Come on over to the dark side, sandy. Oh sure, it’ll hurt a little at first. But soon you’ll start to enjoy it. Next thing you know, you’ll be in Shopko picking up a cheese hat and a little flag for your car. Come to Wisconsin and you can at least savor the joy of a championship once in a while (by my calculations, the next one will be in the year 2027). We like to spread 'em out. Keeps the bandwagon fans away. I have to agree with your self-assessment, **John**. Switching loyalties is just, just wrong! I lived through the lean post-Lombardi years in Green Bay, where I was born and raised. I never knew the Packers as a winning team. I suffered through Bart Starr as a coach, not a player. I endured the 4-12 seasons, the indignity of the Packers only Monday Night Football appearance in eons ruined by the spectacle of the Fridge as a running back. But I perservered and was finally rewarded. Such joy I can’t begin to describe! Had I been a bandwagon fan I would not have felt the same. Now I watch the enevitable decline of my beloved team and grow sad, but I won’t abandon hope. I know that someday Fortune will smile again on the little city on the bay, and I will be there again when it does, watching the game from my nusring home bed, my battered foam cheese hat perched valiantly on my head. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-the-lowest-form-of-life-there-is/32913.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-the-lowest-form-of-life-there-is/32913.md?page=3)