# I am tired of Fox News (Natalee Holloway related ) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 22, 2005, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-tired-of-fox-news-natalee-holloway-related/313575 "2005-07-22T02:19:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-tired-of-fox-news-natalee-holloway-related/313575/41 "2005-07-22T20:43:29Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > As of this posting time, the word “Rove” isn’t on [CNN.com](http://CNN.com)’s front page either. Biased much? Ah, my favorite argument. “Oh yeah, well other people are bad too!” And OMG [Foxnews.com](http://Foxnews.com) does have a Rove story now! You win the intarnet! Isn’t this thread about Fox? Sure, other channels suck too, so what? Does that make Fox’s coverage more forgiveable? ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-tired-of-fox-news-natalee-holloway-related/313575/42 "2005-07-22T20:46:15Z")
> [@Slacker](#): > > Ah, my favorite argument. “Oh yeah, well other people are bad too!” > > And OMG [Foxnews.com](http://Foxnews.com) does have a Rove story now! You win the intarnet! > > Isn’t this thread about Fox? Sure, other channels suck too, so what? Does that make Fox’s coverage more forgiveable? Like I said — you’re biased. This whole topic is like an argument over whether a 30-story building is tall. ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-tired-of-fox-news-natalee-holloway-related/313575/43 "2005-07-22T20:50:26Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > Like I said — you’re biased. This whole topic is like an argument over whether a 30-story building is tall. All righty. I suppose I’m “biased” against a lot of things. Gwen Stefani, Michael Bay movies, broccoli, diet soda… ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-tired-of-fox-news-natalee-holloway-related/313575/44 "2005-07-22T21:43:37Z")
> [@Evil One](#): > > Rove is happily at work busily plotting out another Democrat buttfucking for 2006. Nothing will happen to him out of this. That is likely since Kool-aid Republicans are seeing no evil, never mind that recently even former CIA agents that are republican have complained about the White House doing nothing regarding the leakers. What is important is that the independents and reasonable republicans that mistakenly gave the vote to Bush learn about things like this: [http://www.dailykos.com/](http://www.dailykos.com/) > [@](#): > > It’s only been a few days since the Supreme Court nominee was hurriedly announced in an attempt to get Karl Rove off the front pages. Since then, all hell has broken loose. > > Bloomberg is reporting that Rove and Libby both gave testimony to the grand jury that flatly conflicts with the testimony given by those they said they talked to. > > We now know that the Top Secret memo most consistent with the talking points that Rove and Libby told reporters was seen in the hands of Press Secretary Ari Fleischer in the days before the leak occurred. And that Fleischer told the grand jury he never saw it. > > Update [2005-7-22 16:38:29 by Hunter]: [And Steve Clemons has verified that John Bolton was one of Judith Miller’s regular sources on WMD issues, and that MSNBC stands by its story that Bolton gave testimony to the grand jury about the State Department memo in question. Bolton, you may recall, has previously been identified to have been involved in the Niger uranium claims that Wilson’s trip helped disprove – just to add even more gunpowder to this mix.] > > This is, to use the most calm and soothing phrase possible in such circumstances, extremely f—ing bad for the administration. It shows the broad outlines not just of multiple perjury charges, but indeed of linked conspiracy charges against a number of administration officials. ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2005, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-tired-of-fox-news-natalee-holloway-related/313575/45 "2005-07-23T00:27:25Z")
There was a recent thread on the Daily Howler in which Joe Scarborough went on his show to complain about how America had gotten complacent about the dangers of terrorism, and how the media should be ashamed of itself for focusing on trivial issues (such as torture at Guantanamo Bay). Bob Somerby then analyzed what ol’ Joe himself had been focusing for the past month, and, lo and behold, it was Natalee Holloway all day, every day. I sometimes think that I could choke on the hypocrisy. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2005, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-tired-of-fox-news-natalee-holloway-related/313575/46 "2005-07-23T05:21:39Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > As of this posting time, the word “Rove” isn’t on [CNN.com](http://CNN.com)’s front page either. Can’t we have _him_ kidnapped? ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2005, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-tired-of-fox-news-natalee-holloway-related/313575/47 "2005-07-23T07:09:58Z")
> [@Duke of Rat](#): > > The fucking thing that irks me more than Natalie is the “Homicide Bomber” memo they sent out. They won’t call a suicide bomber a suicide bomber, not sure why. I guess it glorifies suicide bombing?? Who the fuck knows, but I just loath the way they insist on calling it a homicide bomber. Hey Fox, you can commit homicide with a bomb and not die doing it…didn’t you get the fucking memo? From the February 6, 2004 [FOXNews.com](http://FOXNews.com) story [Bomb Rips Apart Moscow Subway, Killing 39](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,110618,00.html): > [@](#): > > President Vladimir Putin blamed Chechen separatists, although it was unclear whether the blast was the work of a homicide bomber or someone who merely placed a device on the train as it left the station. Way to go, Fox! :rolleyes: (As to the actual topic of the thread, I don’t watch Fox, and barely watch any of the cable news channels anymore, so I don’t really know if Fox is worse or maybe even better than, say, CNN when it comes to how relentless it is in covering the latest over-hyped news story _du jour_.) ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2005, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-tired-of-fox-news-natalee-holloway-related/313575/48 "2005-07-23T09:05:47Z")
You all should switch networks and tune into the new [WWWA](http://tingilinde.typepad.com/starstuff/2005/06/wwwa_network_ne.html) Network. Props to the Doper who first clued us in to this article. I don’t remember who it was. The original page the link goes to is no longer up, but the link I gave should point you to a copy of the hilarious, spot-on satire of the bullshit that passes for news these days. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2005, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-tired-of-fox-news-natalee-holloway-related/313575/49 "2005-07-23T13:35:01Z")
You can blame Ted Koppel. The evening news used to provide our “world” coverage. It was 22 minutes long. Then back in the late 70’s, some Iranian insurgents stormed our embassy and kidnapped Americans. President Carter, God bless him, seemed helpless to do anything. Enter President Elect “Here I Come to Save the Daaaaaay!” Ronald Reagan who negotiated for the release of the hostages behind the back of the President… throw in inflation and people waiting in lines to buy gas…well, there were far more stories than the evening news could handle. Ergo “Nightline” was born. “Nightline” was supposed to be a temporary program to handle the “overflow” of information that the 6pm world news couldn’t fit in. Trouble is, the Iranians held onto the hostages for freaking YEARS. By the time the “incident” was over, “Nightline” had evolved from a short term fix into a late night staple. And it had solid ratings behind it to keep it on the air, even after the world stabilized and there really wasn’t a compelling need for it. With the proliferation of cable and satellite t.v., 24/7 coverage was the next logical step. And it all began with that little weasle Ted Koppel. Of course, the main problem with 24/7 news channels is that absent an Iranian Hostage crisis, 24/7 coverage is 23.5/7 too much. Natalee Holloway is simply the 23.5 filler du jour. MSRIP. ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2005, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-tired-of-fox-news-natalee-holloway-related/313575/50 "2005-07-23T14:37:35Z")
> [@Beware of Doug](#): > > Can’t we have _him_ kidnapped? Rove would have to have some kind of ‘hittability’, which, he does not. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2005, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-tired-of-fox-news-natalee-holloway-related/313575/51 "2005-07-23T14:47:33Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > That is likely since Kool-aid Republicans are seeing no evil, never mind that recently even former CIA agents that are republican have complained about the White House doing nothing regarding the leakers. What is important is that the independents and reasonable republicans that mistakenly gave the vote to Bush learn about things like this: > [http://www.dailykos.com/](http://www.dailykos.com/) Well, I feel pretty good now. In a few different threads, I mentioned the “C” word (conspiracy), and now it looks like I may have been right. But, I’m skeptical as to whether anyone will pay for this. Unless there are actual convictions, the whole bunch will just skate again. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2005, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-tired-of-fox-news-natalee-holloway-related/313575/52 "2005-07-23T16:45:27Z")
> [@Shirley Ujest](#): > > Originally Posted by Beware of Doug > Can’t we have him kidnapped? > > Rove would have to have some kind of ‘hittability’, which, he does not. Define “hittability.” Given the chance and a couple of hefty goons to help out, I would happily pound him into cube steak. Then again, he’s probably got a bigger Secret Service detail than Duhbya. (And a secret-er one.) > [@Harborwolf](#): > > :crawls out from under NPR News: One does not crawl out from under NPR News. One slithers. Or perhaps scuttles. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-tired-of-fox-news-natalee-holloway-related/313575.md?page=2)