# I am your better. Do as I say. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 27, 2010, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184 "2010-07-27T14:31:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/241 "2010-07-29T14:47:54Z")
> [@InterestedObserver](#): > > OMG, I demand a photo of this Chessic guy! Only ONE other man on the PLANET could possibly have a GF as “hot” as his…and THAT man is a twin of his GF? Damn, he MUST be some HOT shit! :eek: > > Please. How old are you, Chessic? Better get off the computer before mommy and daddy get home. :rolleyes: You’re very slow, aren’t you? First of all, the guy isn’t the twin, he’s the BF of the twin. The obvious implication of my statement is that I think my girlfriend is the hottest woman on Earth. That usually makes people go “Aww”, not “Wow, what an arrogant asshole.” Of course, I knew more than one of you would do that anyway. Congrats on being one of them. Tool. > [@11811](#): > > Well, the experience you get when hearing such a sentence might be called the Chessic Sensation. That doesn’t work. That term already has a meaning- the “whoa” feeling you get when you see a beautiful chess combination. > [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > So, being better means I get the girl. But didn’t you just say that (at least part of) what makes somebody better is getting the girl? What does this boil down to, then – being better means being better? “The Yankees beat the Pirates, so the Yankees are better.” “The Yankees beat the Pirates because the Yankees are better.” Aren’t both of these statements true? You win because you’re better. The victory is just how you find out. > [@j66](#): > > I don’t even think you are much of a racist, because you seem to have no respect for any one - tourists, persons of color, workers You do realize that you guys made up the racist thing, right? You realize that the original incident was an anti-Whitecomment by a “person of color”, right? Just making sure you’re paying attention. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/242 "2010-07-29T14:51:45Z")
I have a colour - pinkish-beige. Actually, with all my working outside, parts of me are a nice toasted beige. ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/243 "2010-07-29T15:05:49Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > So again, fuck you, your machines, Metro, and all your **racist** , nose picking, sleeping-on-duty, GED-sporting, power-tripping coworkers. > [@olivesmarch4th](#): > > I’m just trying to figure out where racism fits into all this. > [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > I don’t know that he was necessarily racist, **but a lot of them are**. > > But I know I’m not alone when I say that the Metro system is a **racist** community. > [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > You do realize that you guys made up the racist thing, right? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/244 "2010-07-29T15:09:27Z")
> [@DragonAsh](#): > > Bah, sneak brag is for the inferior classes. The handsome, impossibly cool and intellectual crowd uses stealth brag. But feel free to use sneak brag if you like going ghetto. > 😃 Ah. I am clearly less than you are. Does this mean I have to do what you say? ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/245 "2010-07-29T15:12:30Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > > [@InterestedObserver](#): > > > > OMG, I demand a photo of this Chessic guy! Only ONE other man on the PLANET could possibly have a GF as “hot” as his…and THAT man is a twin of his GF? Damn, he MUST be some HOT shit! :eek: > > > > Please. How old are you, Chessic? Better get off the computer before mommy and daddy get home. :rolleyes: > > You’re very slow, aren’t you? First of all, the guy isn’t the twin, he’s the BF of the twin. The obvious implication of my statement is that I think my girlfriend is the hottest woman on Earth. That usually makes people go “Aww”, not “Wow, what an arrogant asshole.” Of course, I knew more than one of you would do that anyway. Congrats on being one of them. Tool. No no no, my dear, **you’re** the slow one here. He is marveling at how hot you must apparently be in order to have snagged the hottest chick on the planet. Get it now? ---
**Author:** ![DragonAsh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DragonAsh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DragonAsh)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/246 "2010-07-29T15:29:11Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > > [@DragonAsh](#): > > > > Bah, sneak brag is for the inferior classes. The handsome, impossibly cool and intellectual crowd uses stealth brag. But feel free to use sneak brag if you like going ghetto. > > 😃 > > Ah. I am clearly less than you are. Does this mean I have to do what you say? Normally, yes - but hailing from Minnesota elevates you to within sight of my general level, so I suppose I can give you a pass. ---
**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/247 "2010-07-29T15:31:55Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > :dubious: What’s with the dubious face? Nowhere did I say anything disparaging about any race whatsoever. I did, however, provide examples (some blatant, some not) of Metro employees acting in a racist manner. So the whole “ **Chessic Sense** is racist” is made up. Invented out of nothing. A- “White people suck.” B- “That’s racist.” C- “Hey B, quit being racist, you racist.” B- 😕 ETA: My coworkers have assigned me a [theme song](http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Move+Bitch/2spQUP)(NSFW audio). ---
**Author:** ![Monstera\_deliciosa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monstera_deliciosa/32/109_2.png) [@Monstera\_deliciosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstera_deliciosa)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/248 "2010-07-29T15:42:20Z")
> [@Fuji](#): > > If this whole **Chessic** thread isn’t a deliberate whoosh (and I doubt it is, because his persona is fairly consistent) I agree that the sentiments expressed are sincere, because as you say, they are consistent with his persona, and things he has posted, seemingly seriously, in the past. I do however think that this thread is a deliberate whoosh, or less kindly, trolling, because I think it was posted to get a rise out of us SDMB libruls, rather than to merely air a grievance. ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/249 "2010-07-29T16:15:48Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > What’s with the dubious face? Nowhere did I say anything disparaging about any race whatsoever. I did, however, provide examples (some blatant, some not) of Metro employees acting in a racist manner. So the whole “ **Chessic Sense** is racist” is made up. Invented out of nothing. _ **In your own OP** _, you called out Metro employees for being, among other things, racist. (This was after saying that it should have been obvious that you are an honest person because you’re not a “hood rat,” which I’m sure has no racial connotations at all.) When somebody asked why your experience had anything to do with racism, _ **a charge you explicitly made in your OP** _, you said the Metro is a “racist community” because: a)most of the employees are black, and b)once, you overheard a black employee say “That’s what I hate about white people.” Once. That’s the _ **only** _ “example” you have given. Now, some may claim that the above reflects poorly on your _own_ views regarding race. Granted, that point may be open for debate, but to say: > [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > You do realize that you guys made up the racist thing, right? is patently ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/250 "2010-07-29T16:42:26Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > > [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > > > Yeah rich people never stole a thing > > Wow. I even _predicted_ that someone would say that, and gave you my response, yet you still said it anyway. > > > [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > > > LOL, so your measure of a man is how much he makes? > > That’s one of them, yes. Life is a game. The higher your “score”, the better you are. One way to score points is to make a lot of money. Of course, there’s still fame, sex, power, and a bunch of other things that go into the calculation. > > > [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > > > We’re all just astounded by the fact that the OP thought that he was going to get a chorus of support here. > > What makes you think I was looking for support at all, much less thought I was going to get it? You know what happens when people post about annoying shit and everyone else goes “Yeah!”? A boring thread. > > No, the point of the thread is to say out loud those things that would be rude to say in public- those inner thoughts that don’t go over well elsewhere. And since you people don’t actually exist, I can say them to you without fear of consequence. > > > [@](#): > > > > You know what that means? Social ostracism isn’t going to do shit. Thus its sole purpose is to make you feel better. Exactly the purpose of the OP for complaining here in the first place. > > Well said. > > > [@Rigamarole](#): > > > > I bet Snoop Dogg has more money than you. > > > > Probably a lot more. > > > > Oprah Winfrey definitely does. > > > > So they’re better than you right? > > Snoop Dogg? Um…no. He’s got more money, yes, but lacks a lot of other desirable traits, such as his habit of glorifying human sex trafficking. > > Oprah is better than me, yes. So are the Obamas (well, the adults anyway), my parents, almost all of our elected officials, Hollywood stars, business CEOs, my bosses (and their parallels), doctors, most lawyers, PhDs, and most most people with degrees higher than mine. This is, of course, an incomplete list. > > Note that all of those attributes come about by hard work, determination, and skill. You’re not born a governor. If you’re rich because your parents passed you your wealth, it doesn’t count. If you’re a successful CEO but you’re in some scandal, that puts you beneath me because then that, too, doesn’t count. > > I don’t think most people disagree with me. They’re just afraid of the term “better”. Would I say that in real life? Probably not. But on the SDMB, I don’t mince words. > > > [@DragonAsh](#): > > > > I guess unlike the OP, I wouldn’t consider myself superior to the attendant simply because I (probably) make more money. I do consider myself superior because I don’t go on mini-power trips then lie to the person’s face when I’m caught out. > > It’s not _just_ the salary. See above. > > As for why I mentioned “hood rats” at all, it’s because of the two muggings I’ve witnessed where the perp hops a train and gets away. I’m saying I’m not one of those thieves. Then there’s the harrassers that molest (in the “bother” sense) female train riders late at night. I’m not one of those hood rats either. Wow. I think it’s official. We should hereby crown Chessic Sense the Biggest Douche in the Universe based on this post alone. ---
**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/251 "2010-07-29T19:19:59Z")
[QUOTE=Wheelz;12741197_ **In your own OP** _, you called out Metro employees for being, among other things, racist. (This was after saying that it should have been obvious that you are an honest person because you’re not a “hood rat,” which I’m sure has no racial connotations at all.) When somebody asked why your experience had anything to do with racism, _ **a charge you explicitly made in your OP** _, you said the Metro is a “racist community” because: a)most of the employees are black, and b)once, you overheard a black employee say “That’s what I hate about white people.” Once. That’s the _ **only** _ “example” you have given. Now, some may claim that the above reflects poorly on your _own_ views regarding race. Granted, that point may be open for debate, but to say: > [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > You do realize that you guys made up the racist thing, right? is patently ridiculous. [/QUOTE] As is usual for the SDMB community, you’ve taken something I said, decided to add connotations to it, considered that I might have meant those connotations as well, then decided that I do in fact have those connotations. You’ve made several jumps to conclusions there and didn’t even realize it. “Hood Rat” does not have racist connotations. Now you’re all going to go “Hah! Yeah, I bet. :rolleyes:” no matter what I say, so I’m not going to waste the effort. I also gave more than one example. I didn’t even tell you about the time my friend threw something away, which pissed off one of the cleaners, who then called my friend “rich boy”, which made no sense in context. Judging from his appearance and description of the events, I’m going to go with “rich”=“white”. But you don’t have to believe me about that either. Incidentally, (is anyone still listening?) I had a conversation with a Metro employee last night while waiting for my train. I told him what happened and he said that PTJ was probably carrying over something from earlier that pissed him off. In other words, I caught him in a bad mood. Why? Either another customer had pissed him off, or he just found out he has to work a double that day. Turns out, someone called in sick at that station and they were having trouble finding someone to fill in. Jamal’s boss might have just told him he has to work a 16-hour shift. I asked him what he would have done, as a station manager, if he had been Jamal. He said you usually just fix the card. There are tons of broken things, he said, every day. He helps hundreds (exaggerating?) of people a day. You just fix the card and move on. Happens all day, every day. That’s when I asked him about racism in the system. As soon as the word ‘racism’ left my lips, my train pulled in. Me - “…racism…” Him - “…well…[pause]” Me - “Hate to drop that bomb and run, but I gotta go!” Him - “OK, cya.” I guess I’ll ask someone else later what they think. I humbly await all the posters who will now show up to call me a liar. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/252 "2010-07-29T19:30:41Z")
Why do you think there was any reason for how Jamal treated you, other than the fact you admitted to fare evasion? He doesn’t sound that angry to me, and I’m pretty sure I’d get the same treatment if I jumped a turnstile, regardless of race or how the worker was feeling that day. You got told it was fare evasion because it was. They don’t make an exception for guys wearing a suit and tie. Also, how was he supposed to fix the card from the train? And it doesn’t sound like there was anything wrong with the card other than the fact that you hadn’t put money on it. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/253 "2010-07-29T19:37:03Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > Why do you think there was any reason for how Jamal treated you, other than the fact you admitted to fare evasion? He doesn’t sound that angry to me, and I’m pretty sure I’d get the same treatment if I jumped a turnstile, regardless of race or how the worker was feeling that day. You got told it was fare evasion because it was. They don’t make an exception for guys wearing a suit and tie. > > Also, how was he supposed to fix the card from the train? And it doesn’t sound like there was anything wrong with the card other than the fact that you hadn’t put money on it. Because he’s supposed to fix it! Duh – **Chessic** is better than him. So Jamal OBVIOUSLY has to bow down and move heaven and earth so **Chessic** won’t be late for work. ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/254 "2010-07-29T19:42:13Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > It’s more like if you eat at McDonald’s and try to pay with your credit card but the machine’s broken. So you tell the guy “Oh, I don’t have any cash. Let me run across the street to the bank and I’ll be right back” and then this 16 yr old kid starts lecturing you and condescending you about how you should always carry cash and how you’re wrong for coming in to McD’s without the proper currency. Except you eat your happy meal right off of the counter before you mention that you don’t have any cash. ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/255 "2010-07-29T20:02:08Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > As is usual for the SDMB community, you’ve taken something I said, decided to add connotations to it, considered that I might have meant those connotations as well, then decided that I do in fact have those connotations. You’ve made several jumps to conclusions there and didn’t even realize it. _ **You** _ were the one who introduced racism into the conversation, in your OP even. Then you accused other posters of making up the racism angle out of whole cloth. That’s what I’m calling ridiculous. I know you’re arguing that because you aren’t explicitly describing _ **yourself** _ as racist, everyone else therefore is simply jumping to conclusions. But don’t you get – and try to follow along here – _Don’t you get_ that repeatedly, and with scant evidence, claiming that all these black Metro employees get off on hassling white passengers because they’re racist _ **might just make you sound a bit racist yourself?** _ Can you really go back and read your posts in this thread and honestly have no idea how somebody could possibly infer that? Even conceding that you can’t really know somebody from message board posts, and that people often misinterpret what others write, and that it’s easy to take things out of context, even conceding all of those things, you’ve provided plenty of ammunition here for people to reach a certain conclusion without having to jump very far at all. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/256 "2010-07-29T21:00:02Z")
I didn’t jump! I took a tiny step, and there conclusions were. ---
**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/257 "2010-07-29T23:22:28Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > ETA: My coworkers have assigned me a [theme song](http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Move+Bitch/2spQUP)(NSFW audio). Something tells me there’s no irony there. Your coworkers don’t think much of you. Besides that being a stupid song, anyway, I don’t think Ludacris is trying to be ironic either, just an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/258 "2010-07-29T23:38:29Z")
> [@SeaDragonTattoo](#): > > > [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > > > ETA: My coworkers have assigned me a [theme song](http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Move+Bitch/2spQUP)(NSFW audio). > > Something tells me there’s no irony there. Your coworkers don’t think much of you. > > Besides that being a stupid song, anyway, I don’t think Ludacris is trying to be ironic either, just an idiot. Maybe there’s a song called “Get yo Head out yo ass” Wait, I’ll write one. ---
**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/259 "2010-07-29T23:45:25Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > You’re very slow, aren’t you? First of all, the guy isn’t the twin, he’s the BF of the twin. The obvious implication of my statement is that I think my girlfriend is the hottest woman on Earth. That usually makes people go “Aww”, not “Wow, what an arrogant asshole.” I’m guessing “awww” translates to “aww, it’s nice to see someone taking Jane out somewhere after all this time, even though she’s such a butterface”. Either that or your friends are the same kind of arrogant assholes as yourself, and share your belief that physical attractiveness is the sole trait necessary to describe a good girlfriend. Every single time someone on this board has described their girl/boyfriend as gorgeous or whatever (and I don’t mean subjectively, I mean in the aggressive way that you brought it up), if a photo surfaces that person turns out to be either very ordinary or downright unattractive. Just like every person who says they’re smart turns out to be a halfwit and every person who describes themselves as funny turns out to be morose and humourless. And every person who says they’re better is actually carrying a huge chip on their shoulder as a result of their severe inferiority complex. These are the truths of the internet. Nobody who is actually smart/attractive/funny/great needs to tell you that they are, because they are actually comfortable with themselves. ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/260 "2010-07-30T00:49:26Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > > [@j66](#): > > > > I don’t even think you are much of a racist, because you seem to have no respect for any one - tourists, persons of color, workers > > You do realize that you guys made up the racist thing, right? You realize that the original incident was an anti-Whitecomment by a “person of color”, right? Just making sure you’re paying attention. Well, that sure changed my mind. Since your response to my statement that I did NOT think you racist (just an equal opportunity hater) was another protestation that you are not racist (although you first introduced race to the thread), I think what we have here is the lady protesting too much. I think I was wrong, and that you must be racist. As well as of no significant value to the wider world. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184.md?page=14)