# I am your better. Do as I say. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 27, 2010, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184 "2010-07-27T14:31:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/161 "2010-07-28T03:55:27Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > > [@Cheshire\_Human](#): > > > > > [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > > > > > Give it time. **Rand Rover** will show up eventually. He’ll understand why I’m better than Metro employees. > > > > Yeah, great assholes fart alike. > > Guess you didn’t read what I actually wrote in this thread, you fucking moron. And fork you too, very much! I was reaming Chessic’s assumption, not you, before you replied, but if you want to have a go at flame warfare, I’m willing. 😃 (as I don my asbestos undies) :D:D It was directed at _ **his** _ assumption that you would go along with him, rather than at you. Your response to that [I seem to recall the label “douche”] immediately put the lie to his assumption. My joke [and that is how it was intended, sorry if you didn’t see it that way] was that Chessic _ **expected** _ you to “fart” the same way. I didn’t. I was razzing him, not you. I apologize _ **to you, not to him** _, for the way I did that… [insert a smiley that actually expresses the idea of “oops, sorry, didn’t mean it the way you took it”.] ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/162 "2010-07-28T04:07:43Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > No, he should know that I’m trustworthy because I’m not poor. I therefore don’t steal things. Now one of you brain-dead morons is going to go “Ohhh, so only the poor steal, eh?” and miss the entire point. The point is _I_ don’t steal things. If you insinuate that I do, you’re an asshole. No, the point is how _ **Jamal** _ is supposed to know that you are not an asshole [excuse me, crook], when _ **we** _ can all see that you are [asshole, not crook]. Are you a crook? Jamal has no way to know. Are you an asshole? Jamal probably sensed it instantly. Give it up, you lost. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/163 "2010-07-28T04:21:16Z")
Anyone looking for a new user name? I recommend Power Trip Jamal. Or it could be a good band name, of course. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/164 "2010-07-28T04:32:40Z")
Thing is, I’m not sure how making fun of the OP doesn’t make you just as big an asshole as he was. This didn’t happen to you, so you have no reason besides recreational outrage to be upset about it. So you can’t use that as a justification. Do I think saying your someone’s better is stupid? Hell yeah. Do I think it says a lot about the person we are talking about? Of course. But no more than what I already knew about the guy. He’s admitted he feels no compassion for other people. You know what that means? Social ostracism isn’t going to do shit. Thus its sole purpose is to make you feel better. Exactly the purpose of the OP for complaining here in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/165 "2010-07-28T04:36:41Z")
Outrage? Child, please, no one is outraged because **Chessic Dense** is mad about transit cops. It’s just worth pointing and laughing at him because he’s being so ridiculously arrogant and snide, when _he was the one in the wrong_. This rant essentially boils down to “I’m better than you because you work for Metro Transit,” since there is nothing Jamal the Power Trip Guy actually did wrong, but there is something **li’l Chessie** did wrong. Get it? ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/166 "2010-07-28T04:42:38Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Thing is, I’m not sure how making fun of the OP doesn’t make you just as big an asshole as he was. This didn’t happen to you, so you have no reason besides recreational outrage to be upset about it. So you can’t use that as a justification. > > Do I think saying your someone’s better is stupid? Hell yeah. Do I think it says a lot about the person we are talking about? Of course. But no more than what I already knew about the guy. He’s admitted he feels no compassion for other people. > > You know what that means? Social ostracism isn’t going to do shit. Thus its sole purpose is to make you feel better. Exactly the purpose of the OP for complaining here in the first place. Well, fuck him. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/167 "2010-07-28T04:49:28Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Thing is, I’m not sure how making fun of the OP doesn’t make you just as big an asshole as he was. This didn’t happen to you, so you have no reason besides recreational outrage to be upset about it. So you can’t use that as a justification. > > Do I think saying your someone’s better is stupid? Hell yeah. Do I think it says a lot about the person we are talking about? Of course. But no more than what I already knew about the guy. He’s admitted he feels no compassion for other people. > > You know what that means? Social ostracism isn’t going to do shit. Thus its sole purpose is to make you feel better. Exactly the purpose of the OP for complaining here in the first place. Grow a pair and quit being so sensitive. All you do is whine about people on this board being _soo mean_ to each other. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/168 "2010-07-28T04:56:53Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Thing is, I’m not sure how making fun of the OP doesn’t make you just as big an asshole as he was. This didn’t happen to you, so you have no reason besides recreational outrage to be upset about it. So you can’t use that as a justification. > > Do I think saying your someone’s better is stupid? Hell yeah. Do I think it says a lot about the person we are talking about? Of course. But no more than what I already knew about the guy. He’s admitted he feels no compassion for other people. > > You know what that means? Social ostracism isn’t going to do shit. Thus its sole purpose is to make you feel better. Exactly the purpose of the OP for complaining here in the first place. Are you one of the people who gets mad at people who bitch about racism, for being bigoted against bigotry? ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/169 "2010-07-28T05:37:40Z")
What I want to know is, what kind of a planet do you have to live on that you think a subway worker would expect some rush hour prick in a shirt and tie to act like a more reasonable person than your average hoodrat, anyway? ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/170 "2010-07-28T05:47:12Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > > [@olivesmarch4th](#): > > > > Translation: ‘‘You should know that I’m trustworthy, racist inferior Metro employee, because I’m not a poor minority.’’ > > No, he should know that I’m trustworthy because I’m not poor. I therefore don’t steal things. Now one of you brain-dead morons is going to go “Ohhh, so only the poor steal, eh?” and miss the entire point. The point is _I_ don’t steal things. If you insinuate that I do, you’re an asshole. Yeah rich people never stole a thing (/cough Madoff /cough Winona Ryder /cough). > [@](#): > > Yes. And I aspire to be like you, or at least that part of you. That’s how I know who’s better than me. LOL, so your measure of a man is how much he makes? > [@](#): > > I’ve clearly got more manners than PTJMEE as well, since I’m not actually rude to the person in question and save it for an anonymous message board. He, on the other hand, is rude right to your face. I don’t know what they call it where you come from but they don’t call it manners where I’m from, they call it cowardice. If you really thought this guy was being a prick, you shoulda called him a prick right to his face after all if you hadn’t done anything wrong then what did you have to lose, he was making you go all the way back to “start” anyways. > [@BigT](#): > > Thing is, I’m not sure how making fun of the OP doesn’t make you just as big an asshole as he was. This didn’t happen to you, so you have no reason besides recreational outrage to be upset about it. So you can’t use that as a justification. We’re all just astounded by the fact that the OP thought that he was going to get a chorus of support here. > [@](#): > > You know what that means? Social ostracism isn’t going to do shit. Thus its sole purpose is to make you feel better. Exactly the purpose of the OP for complaining here in the first place. Well if it doesn’t bother him because he doesn’t care and it makes the rest of us feel better, then it sounds like a pareto optimal solution to me. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/171 "2010-07-28T05:54:59Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > Yes. And I aspire to be like you, or at least that part of you. That’s how I know who’s better than me. I bet Snoop Dogg has more money than you. Probably a lot more. Oprah Winfrey definitely does. So they’re better than you right? ---
**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/172 "2010-07-28T07:12:35Z")
**raises bowl of popcorn** I’m full and I gotta get to bed. Anyone want my popcorn? I’ll leave it right over here, please make use of it! G’nite ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/173 "2010-07-28T07:47:00Z")
> [@SeaDragonTattoo](#): > > **raises bowl of popcorn** I’m full and I gotta get to bed. Anyone want my popcorn? I’ll leave it right over here, please make use of it! Can I get a free refill of it when everyone else has finished eating from it? ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/174 "2010-07-28T07:49:22Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > No, he should know that I’m trustworthy because I’m not poor. I therefore don’t steal things. Now one of you brain-dead morons is going to go “Ohhh, so only the poor steal, eh?” and miss the entire point. The point is _I_ don’t steal things. Right, you just _don’t pay_ for them! World of difference. ---
**Author:** ![DragonAsh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DragonAsh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DragonAsh)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/175 "2010-07-28T08:39:14Z")
Well, I kinda feel the OP’s pain on this one. Come on, we’ve all had the unfortunate mispleasure of having to interact with some service sector lifer whose puny brain clearly takes delight in wielding what little power they do have in their petty, insignificant miserable world. I had problem very much like the OP’s: When I got to the tube station in the morning both gates were clearly not working; everyone was having trouble with them. When I got off the train I tried to swipe out to see if it hadn’t actually swiped me in anyway. It hadn’t, came up error, so I went over to the swing gate and told the attendant about the problem at my original station. Her: ‘You don’t have enough money on your card. I can’t let you out until you’ve paid the £50 penalty’. Me: ‘I don’t think you understand. The machine wouldn’t let me swipe in when I got on. I’m pretty sure I have enough for at least the journey, but either way it didn’t tell me what the balance was’. Her: ‘I haven’t heard of any malfunctioning machines at your station. And the machine won’t let you on if you don’t have a balance sufficient for the entire journey. You can’t leave until you pay the £50 fine’. Me: ‘You’re kidding right? The gate will most certainly let you on. And didn’t you hear me? The gates weren’t working! I want to speak to your supervisor’. Her: ‘You’re going to have to wait, he’s not here right now’. That was her mistake. You see, as a senior management, I’m never ‘on/off the clock’. As long as I have my phone and a Blackberry, I’m -always- working, and it makes no difference when I am physically in the office. I don’t have a time clock to punch. I had my phone and a working blackberry; I told her I’d happily wait as long as I needed to. The supervisor came over about a minute later. :rolleyes: She outright lied to me. Why was I so sure she was lying? Because when I moved to London I checked up on the Oyster card. Here’s what the Oyster Card FAQ says: > [@](#): > > Q. If it takes £6.00 / £4.30 off my Oyster card when I touch in what happens if I only have £1.80 on the card? > > A. If you touch in with £1.80 that means **you go £4.20 into debit during the journey**. But if you touch out in zone 1 you get £4.20 back. So if you do not touch out you will be charged £6.00 / £4.30. This is called an unresolved (incomplete) journey and will leave you in debit. The card can only be used again when the debit has been cleared and new credit added > > Q. Is it always my fault when I get an unresolved £6.00 / £4.30 journey on my card? > > A. No, **equipment failure happens daily and you may also be misunderstood and/or dealt with incorrectly by some Tube staff**. There are also many places on the network where it is not at all clear whether you should touch in or out or not, especially at the interchanges between the Tube, DLR, London Overground and National Rail trains. Even if the gate -had- been working, she knew damn well the card lets you go into a negative balance during the journey. In fact I didn’t have an insufficient balance for the journey, just less than £6.00. The first supervisor took me over to the station master’s office. Turns out _dozens_ of people had been having problems that morning due to _surprise_ malfunctioning gates at my station, and the supervisor just shook his head when I told him what the gate attendant had told me. He topped up the card for me, deducted the amount of the journey as if I had swiped normally in the morning at a working gate, and I was on my way. What should have taken 30 seconds turned in to a 10-minute ordeal because of one lying batshit crazy woman. I guess unlike the OP, I wouldn’t consider myself superior to the attendant simply because I (probably) make more money. I do consider myself superior because I don’t go on mini-power trips then lie to the person’s face when I’m caught out. ---
**Author:** ![minlokwat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/minlokwat/32/2844_2.png) [@minlokwat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minlokwat)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/176 "2010-07-28T13:11:48Z")
**Chessic Sense** , you’re an asstool. I remember you from your post about how your oh-so-clever witticisms went over the heads of your unsophisticated workmates. The little secret that folks tried to impart -that you simply couldn’t grasp- was that you’re just not that funny. Nor bright. In that thread I thought you were simply a clueless dipshit who is a little slow on the uptake. I now see that you are an insufferable prick with a bloated sense of self-importance. Thank you for clearing up the confusion. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/177 "2010-07-28T13:38:53Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > Because it’s implying that I’m of a lower status in life than I actually am. I never knew the ‘M’ on those cards stood for ‘Massa’. Ignorance fought. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/178 "2010-07-28T13:47:47Z")
> [@DragonAsh](#): > > I had problem very much like the OP’s: When I got to the tube station in the morning both gates were clearly not working; everyone was having trouble with them. When I got off the train I tried to swipe out to see if it hadn’t actually swiped me in anyway. It hadn’t, came up error, so I went over to the swing gate and told the attendant about the problem at my original station. > > Her: ‘You don’t have enough money on your card. I can’t let you out until you’ve paid the £50 penalty’. > > Me: ‘I don’t think you understand. The machine wouldn’t let me swipe in when I got on. I’m pretty sure I have enough for at least the journey, but either way it didn’t tell me what the balance was’. This is not what happened to our dear little Chessie. He knew he didn’t have enough money at the time, and there was a functioning reload machine, but he didn’t want to use it, because it would entail waiting in line with other people. Yes, we’ve all encountered petty dictator syndrome, but in this case, we’re dealing with petty super-important awesome guy syndrome. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/179 "2010-07-28T14:36:54Z")
[QUOTE=Chessic Sense] Yes. And I aspire to be like you, or at least that part of you. That’s how I know who’s better than me. I’ve clearly got more manners than PTJMEE as well, since I’m not actually rude to the person in question and save it for an anonymous message board. He, on the other hand, is rude right to your face. [/QUOTE] You don’t get a pat on the back for saving your classist shit for the message board. It’s arguably worse, since it now will reach a larger audience than it initially would have if you’d have just spit in his face or something. Nothing you reported in your OP indicated the guy was rude. Gruff, yes. Not wanting to hear your bullshit excuses, yes. But not rude. He probably has to deal with 20 guys like you every morning. Your failure to understand that in his eyes you are nothing more than one of several thousand rushed, self-important Metro commuters is the reason you’ve got yourself so worked up. He did nothing wrong. You had a frustrating day. Quit blaming poor black people and move on. ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184/180 "2010-07-28T14:44:04Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > This is not what happened to our dear little Chessie. He knew he didn’t have enough money at the time, and there was a functioning reload machine, but he didn’t want to use it, because it would entail waiting in line with other people. Yes, we’ve all encountered petty dictator syndrome, but in this case, we’re dealing with petty super-important awesome guy syndrome. Not waiting with other people. Waiting behind _tourists_.\* - for best effect, read in the voice of Thurston Howell the Third. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-your-better-do-as-i-say/548184.md?page=10)