# I Apologize to Lekatt **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 29, 2003, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-apologize-to-lekatt/178175 "2003-05-29T02:57:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-apologize-to-lekatt/178175/21 "2003-05-30T12:04:18Z")
All that I can honestly apologize for are these things: **A mod closed the GD thread that I opened hoping for L’s response, so I decided that the thread was most likely inappropriate.** [_link_](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=186723) **I posted tangentially in a couple of threads. A hijack is a hijack- I have to take responsibilty for those actions.** [Here is the most egregious example](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&postid=3477196&highlight=credophile#post3477196) **I have probably fed his feelings of persecution- that wasn’t productive.** I’m not sure of how to cite for this 😕 > [@](#): > > **I don’t regret desiring to check facts for myself.** If L hadn’t been so big on the value of “personal experience” and hadn’t incessantly cited his own web site, I probably wouldn’t’ve bothered to check his story about the USN and would’ve just assaulted the faulty analogy. > Well, there was the **4th of July snowfall in New Orleans.** Couldn’t let that one go without comment. > > If a bullshitter wants to get caught, I’d guess that the SDMB would be the place to come. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-apologize-to-lekatt/178175/22 "2003-05-30T12:31:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mtgman \* > **You know the worst thing about being cornholed by ignorance? Stupid bastard doesn’t know the difference between astro-glide and toothpaste.** Stop calling Spoofe names. ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-apologize-to-lekatt/178175/23 "2003-05-30T13:02:55Z")
Yeah, **Lekatt** is a lying sack of shit. I laughed out loud at the absurd mistakes he made with some of his Navy stories. What was funny is that, even if true, his stupid lies didn’t even help his argument any. When caught- his stories become even more unbelievable. What a sad, small, pathetic ass-monkey. When very long time posters who carry immense respect around here are calling this poster a serial liar you have to wonder why he hasn’t been flushed yet. \*\* SimonX\*\* was 100% right in every single thing he said about this toad, he just was a bit too determined. Still, being devoted to the truth and exposing a lying sack of crap is the best thing to be a bit overzealous about (if you’re going to be). We did have to chase him a bit, as he refused to stop hijacking the GD thread and come to the Pit. _Someday_ he will post proof he now claims-- yeah right, right after OJ finds the real killers. . . . :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-apologize-to-lekatt/178175/24 "2003-05-30T13:09:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Cervaise \* > \*\* I’ve been known to enjoy some backdoor play of my own every now and then. \*\* :eek: :eek: TMI! TMI! :eek: :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Lissa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lissa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissa)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2003, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-apologize-to-lekatt/178175/25 "2003-06-07T03:30:48Z")
Well Simonx, I for one want to hear his defense for the people who have openly pointed out flaws in his thinking. We had your evidence about the rosters, another poster about the CIC problems. I just want to know. I mean, he wants to fight skeptics, but trying to get people ot accept his word as the truth, but will not address these issues. This is a little annoying to me, so i can guess why you obsessed a little on it. People should be challenged on this. OTOH, I noticed that you have posted something about a snowstorm, is this saying that what Lekatt sais about snowing in new Orleans, right after a hurrican is true? ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2003, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-apologize-to-lekatt/178175/26 "2003-06-07T03:58:43Z")
If you go hunt down one of my earlier posts, you can note that it’s only snowed like four times in this century in New Orleans. In the middle of June or July is not one of those times. ---
**Author:** ![Blonde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Blonde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blonde)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2003, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-apologize-to-lekatt/178175/27 "2003-06-07T04:08:12Z")
All: I am very new to the board. However, if you gentleman would allow me to make an observation: I gather that posting to the SDMB is somewhat like driving a car: you can cut in front of someone, flip them off, whatever – acts of rudeness you would never initiate face-to-face. The “invisible” factor. I think the debates on this board are amazing. I just wonder they all seem to eventually end up in name-calling, cussing, and the like. Where’s that peace-sign smiley face? ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2003, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-apologize-to-lekatt/178175/28 "2003-06-07T17:15:22Z")
I agree that starting a thread just to lure in another poster(though he may post here, Lekatt is no Doper) is over the line. But Lekatt has made many references to his personal experiences and cites them as evidence often. Thus, whether he actually had those experiences is relevant to the debate and subject to proof. ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2003, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-apologize-to-lekatt/178175/29 "2003-07-20T21:44:59Z")
When I first examined the microfilm sent to me by the NARA I only looked through the 1957 BUPERS sections. The BUPERS sections show those who were permanently assigned to the ship. **Lekatt** was not listed there. HOWEVER, I have examined the 1958 training sections and discovered a Kenneth Kattein, (serial number 458 6869), from Tulsa, was on board for a two week training cruise Feb 2, 1958 - Feb 15, 1958. His rank was SN and he was traininng for RD. Even though in [February 13, 1958](http://www.intellicast.com/Almanac/Southeast/February/) snow fell along coastal sections from Louisiana to Florida, there’s still [no record of a hurricane](http://www.srh.noaa.gov/lch/research/lalate20hur.htm) occuring during that time. [The only tropical storm ever to hit the United States in February was in 1952.](http://www.intellicast.com/Almanac/Southeast/February/) So, **Lekatt** _was_ on the USS Willette, and it did snow in Louisiana, (though, apparently not NO), while he was on DE 354. However, there was no hurricane and **elf6c** pointed out a number of [signifigant technical inaccuracies](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&postid=3482740&highlight=lekatt#post3482740) w/ **Lekatt** ’s story. I apologize for saying that the muster rolls didn’t include **Lekatt**. That was my fault for not understanding how the things were organized. I didn’t look thoroughly enough to see that he was on board the ship for two weeks in a year other than the one he mentioned. There’s no evidence of a hurricane or any other aspect of his naval radar story. If anyone would like I can email you a scanned copy of the page that lists **Lekatt** embarkement. It’s over 4 megs though. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2003, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-apologize-to-lekatt/178175/30 "2003-07-20T22:33:40Z")
I wish there was a button on my computer that would let me deliver an electric cattle prod type jolt online. **lekatt** needs therapy. Electroshock seems about right. I suggest that we all change our sig lines to > [@](#): > > **lekatt** SHUT UP! ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-apologize-to-lekatt/178175/31 "2003-07-21T06:23:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SimonX \* > \*\*HOWEVER, I have examined the 1958 training sections and discovered a Kenneth Kattein, (serial number 458 6869), from Tulsa, was on board for a two week training cruise Feb 2, 1958 - Feb 15, 1958. His rank was SN and he was traininng for RD. \*\* How do we know this is **lekatt**? His name is Leroy Kattein as far as I know. We also know he has a brother. Kenneth could be the brother. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-apologize-to-lekatt/178175.md?page=1)