# I believe in Cecil

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-believe-in-cecil/95631>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [November 28, 2001, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-believe-in-cecil/95631 "2001-11-28T02:00:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2001, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-believe-in-cecil/95631/1 "2001-11-28T02:00:35Z")

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He’s not Ed, he’s not Tuba, he’s not Jillgat. He might be Arnold, but I doubt it. Do you believe in Cecil?

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**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2001, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-believe-in-cecil/95631/2 "2001-11-28T02:01:59Z")

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Yes!! I believe!!

[sub]hey, Smallville is on…[/sub]

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**Author:** ![kniz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c37758/32.png) [@kniz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kniz)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2001, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-believe-in-cecil/95631/3 "2001-11-28T02:25:10Z")

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What’s not to believe in?

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2001, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-believe-in-cecil/95631/4 "2001-11-28T02:28:32Z")

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He’s all of us.

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**Author:** ![Redboss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8baadc/32.png) [@Redboss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Redboss)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2001, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-believe-in-cecil/95631/5 "2001-11-28T02:30:13Z")

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Yes, Virginia…

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2001, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-believe-in-cecil/95631/6 "2001-11-28T02:38:38Z")

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I could just sit around,  
Readin’ the Straight Dope all day long.  
As long as I’m readin’ the Straight Dope  
I’m learnin’ what’s right or wrong.  
And who knows,  
Maybe I’ll come up with a thread  
To make people want to stop  
Promoting ignorance  
An’ kill an urban legend dead!

I believe in Cecil  
I believe th’ Straight Dope  
I believe in Cecil  
I believe th’ Straight Dope

Cecil’s the Straight Dope and th’ Straight Dope’s Cecil  
If you know what I mean  
People who believe in Cecil  
Are the smartest people I’ve ever seen  
So read those books and post those threads  
And send your letters in!  
Tell the people what you’ve learned  
or you’re lettin’ ignorance win.

I believe in Cecil  
I believe th’ Straight Dope  
I believe in Cecil  
I believe th’ Straight Dope

Knowledge is the universal language,  
And Cecil’s the key  
To peace, hope and understanding,  
And living in harmony  
So take a fellow Doper by the hand  
And come along with me  
Tell the people what you’ve learned  
or you’re lettin’ ignorance win.

I believe in Cecil  
I believe th’ Straight Dope  
I believe in Cecil  
I believe th’ Straight Dope

Mac Fenris Davis

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2001, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-believe-in-cecil/95631/7 "2001-11-28T03:03:54Z")

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I am in awe. You do this foe a living…right?

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2001, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-believe-in-cecil/95631/8 "2001-11-28T03:21:02Z")

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**Fenris** once again proves she has more talent coming out her asshole than the average hack will ever even hear of.

If Cecil doesn’t take notice of that, he’s just ignored one of his biggest followers (and a damn good source of positive PR).

**Reeder** , I think she’s a freelance genius. But if she does sell her works, she ought to be able to hire Bill Gates as a cabana boy.

Sorry for the visual.

😃

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2001, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-believe-in-cecil/95631/9 "2001-11-28T03:22:15Z")

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Instead of ‘freelance’, I meant to say ‘amateur’. Sorry.

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2001, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-believe-in-cecil/95631/10 "2001-11-28T03:34:03Z")

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I really don’t think Steve is a woman. Or is he??

I’m confused.

So what else is new.

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**Author:** ![richman2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b9e5f3/32.png) [@richman2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/richman2)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2001, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-believe-in-cecil/95631/11 "2001-11-28T03:46:55Z")

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You seem to have created a trick question.  
First you ask if I believe in Cecil, to which I would answer Yes.  
Then you imply that to believe in Cecil is to believe he is not also somebody else. That’s a leap of faith, especially considering Ed.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2001, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-believe-in-cecil/95631/12 "2001-11-28T03:50:44Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Reeder \*  
> \*\*I really don’t think Steve is a woman. Or is he??
> 
> I’m confused.
> 
> So what else is new. \*\*

Uh, Steve?

Sorry.

:: I got this really hot deal on estrogen pills, Stevey-boy. Ever given thought to a change of … pace? ::

(I’m never wrong. Reality just needs adjustment from time to time.)

😃

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**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2001, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-believe-in-cecil/95631/13 "2001-11-28T04:02:04Z")

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I have faith. I believe Cecil is a real person, and I believe **Fenris** is a woman.

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2001, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-believe-in-cecil/95631/14 "2001-11-28T04:20:20Z")

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Check Fenris email addy. But let’s not turn this into a Fenris gender debate. I believe Cecil is Cecil, not a conglomerate, not make believe. He wears pants just like we do.

And he ain’t Ed.

Is he?

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2001, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-believe-in-cecil/95631/15 "2001-11-28T04:41:36Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Reeder \*  
> **But let’s not turn this into a Fenris gender debate.**

Yup…I’m a guy. (And no, I don’t do song parodies for a living or even a hobby, outside of this board and the occasional friendly challenge from friends. But thanks!)

BTW: I’m considering if there’s a tasteful, understated, subtle way to create a sig with the phrase “Freelance Genius” in it.

Anyway, being male is just one more thing that **Cecil** and I have in common.

We also share the following characteristics:

Neither of us are a corporation.  
Neither of us are Ed.

See? We’re practically brothers!

Fenris

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**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2001, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-believe-in-cecil/95631/16 "2001-11-28T04:54:08Z")

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Let’s not forget:  
C **e** c **i** l  
F **e** nr **i** s

I smell a conspiracy.

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2001, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-believe-in-cecil/95631/17 "2001-11-28T05:04:04Z")

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Even more interesting backwards…

l **i** c **e** C

s **i** rn **e** F

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2001, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-believe-in-cecil/95631/18 "2001-11-28T06:05:19Z")

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I before E except in a g **e** n **i** us!

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2001, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-believe-in-cecil/95631/19 "2001-11-28T06:08:30Z")

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Oh, and, since it _has_ come up before, I’m male.

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**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2001, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-believe-in-cecil/95631/20 "2001-11-28T10:57:45Z")

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**e** r **i** s

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

pan

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