# I Bought An EVP Device

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-an-evp-device/953274>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 27, 2021, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-an-evp-device/953274 "2021-10-27T05:55:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 3

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2021, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-an-evp-device/953274/41 "2021-10-31T23:21:48Z")

</div>

> [@Jim\_B](#):
>
> I know many of you are doctors and scientists. […] Anyone want to defend this charge 🙂 ?

I strongly oppose being labeled a doctor _and_ a scientist. I am an interpreter. And I still believe you need a dog.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-an-evp-device/953274/42 "2021-11-01T03:15:19Z")

</div>

> [@Jim\_B](#):
>
> Anyone want to defend this charge 🙂

I would be very neagtive on the subject. If you want positive, check with Doc Anode.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-an-evp-device/953274/43 "2021-11-01T04:07:46Z")

</div>

> [@Jim\_B](#):
>
> But I often find a more receptive audience on other message boards.

Wait? People are now receptive? What we need radios for?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-an-evp-device/953274/44 "2021-11-01T04:24:11Z")

</div>

> [@Jim\_B](#):
>
> Also I just can’t help but say. I think sometimes you people on these boards are almost too critical. I know many of you are doctors and scientists. But I often find a more receptive audience on other message boards. I’m just saying. Anyone want to defend this charge 🙂 ?

I reacted pretty much the same way as if you had stated you were asking a storefront psychic for advice. Seems more than fair enough to me.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-an-evp-device/953274/45 "2021-11-01T12:07:38Z")

</div>

> [@Jim\_B](#):
>
> Anyone want to defend this charge

You paid money for a device that you will use to talk with the dead.

Defense rests.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![bob\_2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bob_2/32/3341_2.png) [@bob\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bob_2)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-an-evp-device/953274/46 "2021-11-01T13:21:15Z")

</div>

In our CofE Church, no one takes the wine and bread as real blood and body. They are symbolic.

Also, we use real bread. When my wife was a churchwarden, we used to bake it ourselves (we do have a machine) the day before and the priest would actually ‘break’ the bread and tear bits off for the communicants. AFAIK, they use supermarket bread these days.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-an-evp-device/953274/47 "2021-11-01T16:11:29Z")

</div>

I found this interesting EVP recording on Youtube (Fast forward to 2:38):

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/sTjMZGfNxvQ/maxresdefault.jpg "Bachelor's Grove Cemetery disembodied voice captured on recording | Paranormal activity caught evp") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTjMZGfNxvQ)

Can anyone explain it?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-an-evp-device/953274/48 "2021-11-01T16:21:44Z")

</div>

Extraordinary claims demand extraordniary evidence.

I wouldn’t call a noise that sounds vaguely like “you are” and equally vaguely like a duck quacking to be evidence.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-an-evp-device/953274/49 "2021-11-01T16:30:55Z")

</div>

It could be a duck speaking from beyond the grave.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-an-evp-device/953274/50 "2021-11-01T16:33:33Z")

</div>

> [@Jim\_B](#):
>
> But I often find a more receptive audience on other message boards.

Maybe your other message boards are filled with morons?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-an-evp-device/953274/51 "2021-11-01T16:37:36Z")

</div>

> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
>
> Can anyone explain it?

Explain what? Even with the prompting of the subtitle, I don’t hear a human voice, much less “you are”.

That prompting is itself a HUGE no-no. Human brains are over-primed to recognize certain patterns. Our visual faculties are over-primed to pick out human faces, and we often see them where they don’t exist. Our auditory faculties are over-primed to pick out human voices and decipher languages we know, and we often hear them, even where they don’t exist.

If you prime someone to hear a specific phrase in white noise, many listeners will hear it, even though that phrase isn’t present. If you prime different people with different short phrases and present them with the exact same white noise, they’ll tend to hear the phrase you primed them with.

Plus, this is Some Guy on YouTube, posting an edited clip of himself that he and his associate recorded themselves. Even if there were a clear, unambiguous, “disembodied voice”, it wouldn’t be evidence of anything.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-an-evp-device/953274/52 "2021-11-01T18:48:28Z")

</div>

> [@DocCathode](#):
>
> I wouldn’t call a noise that sounds vaguely like “you are” and equally vaguely like a duck quacking to be evidence.

That’s silly. Everyone knows a duck’s quack sounds like “you bloody fool”.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/46RSYCXwSXo/maxresdefault.jpg "Talking duck in Australia can say 'you bloody fool' after learning to imitate human speech") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46RSYCXwSXo)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-an-evp-device/953274/53 "2021-11-01T19:00:28Z")

</div>

[![](https://i.redd.it/n0dryocpszw71.png) ](https://i.redd.it/n0dryocpszw71.png)

As you can see, ghosts preferentially target the poorly educated. This makes sense if ghosts want to keep their existence a secret, since the poorly educated have low standing in society and are unlikely to be believed.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-an-evp-device/953274/54 "2021-11-01T19:50:29Z")

</div>

> [@Jim\_B](#):
>
> I think sometimes you people on these boards are almost too critical. I know many of you are doctors and scientists. But I often find a more receptive audience on other message boards. I’m just saying. Anyone want to defend this charge 🙂 ?

What’s the charge? That many of use are doctors and scientists? I’m neither, in all but the loosest sense of “scientist”. And don’t know that any proper census has been done for “us” as a population. It would be a weird charge anyway, so I assume you mean “we are almost too critical”. To which I say “Bah! Humbug!”

Too critical would have been if someone tapped the “Fighting Ignorance” banner, sent you four links to different versions of “The Dummies guide to debunking EVP” and the mods gave you a warning for being too credulous. Instead we noted this was in MPSIMS and barely made fun of the thread at all.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2021, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-an-evp-device/953274/55 "2021-11-02T02:18:57Z")

</div>

Why are the ghosts holding twigs?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2021, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-an-evp-device/953274/56 "2021-11-02T02:27:35Z")

</div>

They are clearly dead ninja

[![](http://www.thetick.ws/images/ninjahedge.jpg) ](http://www.thetick.ws/images/ninjahedge.jpg)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2021, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-an-evp-device/953274/57 "2021-11-02T11:14:05Z")

</div>

I don’t really understand what effect the nay-sayers will have on your EVP results. Regardless of which almanac you peruse, go ahead and let the world know if you managed to pierce the veil between life and death.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2021, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-an-evp-device/953274/58 "2021-11-02T17:47:39Z")

</div>

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
>
> I don’t really understand what effect the nay-sayers will have on your EVP results.

It _has_ been claimed in the past (usually by “psychics” who somehow cannot perform when doubters are in the general vicinity) that nay-sayers give off a negative psychic vibe that blocks paranormal activity.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2021, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-an-evp-device/953274/59 "2021-11-02T19:28:30Z")

</div>

To be fair, I would certainly have a negative energy in that situation.

Perhaps we need a double blind controlled study, with the nay-sayers and a control group split between readings from real psychics and readings from psychopathic habitual liars.

The stats should show us everything

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2021, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-an-evp-device/953274/60 "2021-11-02T19:53:38Z")

</div>

> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
>
> Can anyone explain it?

Yeah, admit it: you posted that on purpose to make the OP look foolish. It was actually quite funny, I liked the part where he sees a tree and says so in amazement. It would have been even funnier had he said instead: “Look over there! A squirrel!” Alas, he did not (I only could stand it until 3.40 or so, maybe I should be more patient).

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-an-evp-device/953274.md?page=2)

[Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-an-evp-device/953274.md?page=4)
