# I bought some rye! Now what?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-some-rye-now-what/581684
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [May 12, 2011, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-some-rye-now-what/581684 "2011-05-12T18:12:59Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2011, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-some-rye-now-what/581684/1 "2011-05-12T18:12:59Z")
Reading the bourbon threads, I see quite a few mentions of rye. So today when I stocked up on bourbon for juleps, I saw they had three brands of rye, and I was curious. I suspect the Russell’s or Wild Turkey would be a considerably higher quality, but I didn’t want to gamble $20-35 on something new, so I went with the Jim Beam for now.
So do I just use it in place of bourbon in my Old Fashioneds and Whiskey Smashes? Any particularly good cocktails that showcase rye? And if I like this, is it worth investing in the Russell’s Reserve?
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### Author:  [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2011, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-some-rye-now-what/581684/2 "2011-05-12T18:23:02Z")
Here it is served thus:
- Rye and Coke
- Rye and ginger ale
- Rye and water
- On the rocks
- Neat.
I suppose there are other more elaborate concoctions, but this is how 99% of rye is drunk in Canada.
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### Author:  [@limegreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/limegreen)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2011, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-some-rye-now-what/581684/3 "2011-05-12T18:28:24Z")
I was about to bring up ergot poisoning, but nvr mnd.
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### Author:  [@Jaledin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaledin)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2011, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-some-rye-now-what/581684/4 "2011-05-12T18:59:06Z")
Manhattans are made with rye. IIRC from bartending school, a “perfect” manhattan is made with equal parts sweet and dry, and the other variants include either sweet or dry vermouth. I don’t recall, but I think the cherry garnish is traditional only for ones with sweet vermouth – a lemon twist for the dry manhattan. (Isn’t that right? Lime is for clear liquors, so I’m assuming lemon is for the brown liquors). And I’d drink them down, over, on ice, however you want to call it.
I’d drink it in a “Cape Fear” though – I don’t much care for the taste plain, so I’d mix it with Pepto Bismol.
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### Author:  [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2011, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-some-rye-now-what/581684/5 "2011-05-12T19:08:13Z")
> [@Jaledin](#):
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> Manhattans are made with rye. IIRC from bartending school, a “perfect” manhattan is made with equal parts sweet and dry, and the other variants include either sweet or dry vermouth. I don’t recall, but I think the cherry garnish is traditional only for ones with sweet vermouth – a lemon twist for the dry manhattan. (Isn’t that right? Lime is for clear liquors, so I’m assuming lemon is for the brown liquors). And I’d drink them down, over, on ice, however you want to call it.
This is all correct, and the rye manhattan is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.
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### Author:  [@Markxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Markxxx)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2011, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-some-rye-now-what/581684/6 "2011-05-12T19:23:31Z")
Gee I was hoping this thread would be about bread ☹
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### Author:  [@gregorio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gregorio)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2011, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-some-rye-now-what/581684/7 "2011-05-12T19:33:11Z")
Rye and gingerbeer with a dash of lime. Canadian version of a Moscow Mule.
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### Author:  [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2011, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-some-rye-now-what/581684/8 "2011-05-12T19:43:39Z")
I recommend talking to your rye. It likes to be whispered to. “Can you hear it? Sometimes, I swear I can hear it, that worm in my gut. Eating away at me, laying its eggs in my belly. All my life I’ve felt it. I thought I had it beat. You know what I mean – when she came along. She was a tomato, alright. Ripe. Rotten. And now I feel the worm again. Do worms laugh? Help me, Old Overholt. Help me drown the worm, one more time.”
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### Author:  [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2011, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-some-rye-now-what/581684/9 "2011-05-12T19:48:46Z")
> [@gregorio](#):
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> Rye and gingerbeer with a dash of lime. Canadian version of a Moscow Mule.
THAT sounds wonderful!
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### Author:  [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-some-rye-now-what/581684/10 "2011-05-12T19:58:09Z")
Moscow Mules are quite good. My Manhattan is heavier on the bitters than most: 2 measures rye (Russell’s reserve for me), 1 measure sweet vermouth, 4 shots Angostura bitters, 1 scant teaspoon cherry juice. Stir with ice until frigid. Strain into martini glass and garnish with a cherry.
Bulliett Rye is also very good. I sip that one neat.
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### Author:  [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2011, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-some-rye-now-what/581684/11 "2011-05-12T20:12:44Z")
> [@silenus](#):
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> 4 shots Angostura bitters
That is pretty heavy on the bitters.
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### Author:  [@ministryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ministryman)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2011, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-some-rye-now-what/581684/12 "2011-05-12T20:17:14Z")
> [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](#):
>
> Reading the bourbon threads, I see quite a few mentions of rye. So today when I stocked up on bourbon for juleps, I saw they had three brands of rye, and I was curious. I suspect the Russell’s or Wild Turkey would be a considerably higher quality, but I didn’t want to gamble $20-35 on something new, so I went with the Jim Beam for now.
>
> So do I just use it in place of bourbon in my Old Fashioneds and Whiskey Smashes? Any particularly good cocktails that showcase rye? And if I like this, is it worth investing in the Russell’s Reserve?
Pastrami…mustard…cream soda…ahhhhhhhhhhh
Oops…rye the drink, not the bread…uhhhhhhh…dunno…sorry…
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### Author:  [@Lukeinva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lukeinva)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2011, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-some-rye-now-what/581684/13 "2011-05-12T20:17:20Z")
Shopping list to self:
Rye
Angustora bitters what ever that is
Ginger beer what ever that is x2
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### Author:  [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2011, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-some-rye-now-what/581684/14 "2011-05-12T20:26:23Z")
[Angostura.](http://www.angosturabitters.com/default2.htm)
The best [ginger beer](http://www.ajstephans.com/AJStephans/pages/recipes.htm).
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### Author:  [@Lukeinva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lukeinva)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2011, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-some-rye-now-what/581684/15 "2011-05-12T20:39:38Z")
> [@silenus](#):
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> [Angostura.](http://www.angosturabitters.com/default2.htm)
>
> The best [ginger beer](http://www.ajstephans.com/AJStephans/pages/recipes.htm).
Thank yoo!
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### Author:  [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2011, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-some-rye-now-what/581684/16 "2011-05-12T21:38:58Z")
> [@silenus](#):
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> My Manhattan is heavier on the bitters than most: 2 measures rye (Russell’s reserve for me), 1 measure sweet vermouth, 4 shots Angostura bitters, 1 scant teaspoon cherry juice. Stir with ice until frigid. Strain into martini glass and garnish with a cherry.
Yummmmm. I used slightly less bitters, but I could see doing more.
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### Author:  [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2011, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-some-rye-now-what/581684/17 "2011-05-13T04:32:48Z")
Bitters are good to have in the car.
For when you are camping and need to start a fire: it burns like nobody’s business!
Also is great for making ginger ale; just add a few shakes to your lemon-lime soda-type beverage of choice.
I wonder if you could turn beer into ginger-beer that way…
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### Author:  [@Swords\_to\_Plowshares](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swords_to_Plowshares)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2011, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-some-rye-now-what/581684/18 "2011-05-13T04:58:25Z")
Make more Manhattans.
Rye, sweet vermouth, bitters. Traditional garnish is a cherry but a nice orange twist is great too.
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### Author:  [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2011, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-some-rye-now-what/581684/19 "2011-05-13T05:16:59Z")
I have a big rye collection. I like it neat, but there are a couple cocktails I’ve learned how to make recently that I really love…
The Little Italy
2 oz rye
1/2 oz Cynar (or maybe another amaro would work?)
3/4 oz sweet vermouth
Stir on ice, strain, garnish if you like.
Cocktail a la Louisiane
3/4 ounce rye
3/4 ounce Benedictine
3/4 ounce sweet vermouth
Couple dashes of absinthe (or Herbsaint, Pernod or some other pastis)
Couple of dashes of Peychaud’s bitters
Stir on ice, strain, garnish if you like
I’ve been drinking the Thomas Handy rye tonight. Incredibly intense flavors, but at 129 proof, watch out!
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### Author:  [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2011, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-bought-some-rye-now-what/581684/20 "2011-05-13T13:17:24Z")
Whoa! People actually drink Cynar?
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