# I burning your embacies.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-burning-your-embacies/343393>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 7, 2006, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-burning-your-embacies/343393 "2006-02-07T15:51:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-burning-your-embacies/343393/1 "2006-02-07T15:51:03Z")

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[New Low.](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/iran_cartoons) Just… :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-burning-your-embacies/343393/2 "2006-02-07T15:53:53Z")

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How is that any different from any other time? Their President is a known Holocaust denier, so this is pretty much par for the course.

What, do they think we’re going to burn their embassies? :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Man_With_a_Cat)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-burning-your-embacies/343393/3 "2006-02-07T15:57:57Z")

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Quickly. Let’s start a riot. I have a huge pile of bricks in the field outside my window, I just need to go find something Iranian th throw them at!

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-burning-your-embacies/343393/4 "2006-02-07T15:57:57Z")

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> [@Airman Doors](#):
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> How is that any different from any other time? Their President is a known Holocaust denier, so this is pretty much par for the course.
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> What, do they think we’re going to burn their embassies? :rolleyes:

If Bush hadn’t failed Geography (yes I know that is not true), maybe we would have invaded Iran instead of Iraq. The nation that really was supporting terrorism.

Hopefully the UN does the right thing and halts their Nuclear Program.

Jim

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**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-burning-your-embacies/343393/5 "2006-02-07T16:37:38Z")

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What’s an embacie?

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-burning-your-embacies/343393/6 "2006-02-07T17:01:42Z")

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> [@Mr Bus Guy](#):
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> Quickly. Let’s start a riot. I have a huge pile of bricks in the field outside my window, I just need to go find something Iranian th throw them at!

I can get a Fallafal from Pita Inn…

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**Author:** ![SentientMeat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SentientMeat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SentientMeat)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-burning-your-embacies/343393/7 "2006-02-07T17:02:36Z")

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This is just the first step.

[The horror will only escalate](http://www.guardian.co.uk/cartoons/0,,337484,00.html).

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**Author:** ![AFAIKnow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a6a055/32.png) [@AFAIKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AFAIKnow)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-burning-your-embacies/343393/8 "2006-02-07T17:05:37Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> [New Low.](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/iran_cartoons) Just… :rolleyes:

Let’s burn some embaciles.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-burning-your-embacies/343393/9 "2006-02-07T17:22:34Z")

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> [@CynicalGabe](#):
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> What’s an embacie?

Meh… it was going to be “embacie **s** ”… :smack:

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-burning-your-embacies/343393/10 "2006-02-07T17:29:50Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Meh… it was going to be “embacie **s** ”… :smack:

Wait… FUCK! “_embassies_”

yeah… I’m an imbecile… \<sigh\>

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**Author:** ![Mindfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindfield/32/19759_2.png) [@Mindfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mindfield)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-burning-your-embacies/343393/11 "2006-02-07T17:36:16Z")

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WTF does the holocaust have to do with caricatures of the prophet Mohammad? One was a historical atrocity, the other is a jab at a religious figure. If they wanted to do this on equal footing they’d have done some cartoons of Jesus or something.

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-burning-your-embacies/343393/12 "2006-02-07T17:41:38Z")

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> [@Mindfield](#):
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> WTF does the holocaust have to do with caricatures of the prophet Mohammad? One was a historical atrocity, the other is a jab at a religious figure. If they wanted to do this on equal footing they’d have done some cartoons of Jesus or something.

That would be tricky. Jesus is also one of their prophets.

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-burning-your-embacies/343393/13 "2006-02-07T17:42:16Z")

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It’s not supposed to make sense. None of this is.

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**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-burning-your-embacies/343393/14 "2006-02-07T17:42:41Z")

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Interesting quote from that article:

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> “Does the West extend freedom of expression to the crimes committed by the United States and Israel, or an event such as the Holocaust? Or is its freedom only for insulting religious sanctities?” Hamshahri wrote, referring to the Prophet Muhammad cartoons.

Well, yes, “the West” does extend freedom of expression to cover crimes committed by _all_ nations and to events such as the Holocaust. At least the U.S. does, and as far as I know most of our allies do too. If this is supposed to be some sort of playground taunt, I think somebody is going to be disappointed by the reaction.

At least I hope so.

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**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-burning-your-embacies/343393/15 "2006-02-07T17:58:24Z")

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> [@photopat](#):
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> Well, yes, “the West” does extend freedom of expression to cover crimes committed by _all_ nations and to events such as the Holocaust. At least the U.S. does, and as far as I know most of our allies do too. If this is supposed to be some sort of playground taunt, I think somebody is going to be disappointed by the reaction.

Actually, no, many of our allies in Europes have made it a crime to publicly deny that the Holocaust happened: Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, France, Germany, Israel, Lithuania, Netherlands, Poland, Romania, Slovakia and Switzerland.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-burning-your-embacies/343393/16 "2006-02-07T17:58:36Z")

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Despite its many denials Iran, with its nascent cartoon enrichment program, is clearly on the road to obtaining drawings of mass destruction within the next few years. I can only hope that the UN for once acts decisively on this urgent crisis. Given Israel’s supposedly secret but well-documented strategic satire delivery systems, I am gravely concerned that we are heading for a confrontation that will make the battle between Judge Doom and Toontown look like, well, a Froot Loops cereal commercial.

And for those of you who will inevitably point out that many other countries already possess a similar capability, and that only one, the USA, has ever actually used it, I remind you that that was a different time. We were in a state of total war, and the relentless drawing of buck-toothed, squinty-eyed “Japs”, although inhumane by today’s standards, was considered at the time to be our best chance to bring that horrifying conflict to an early conclusion.

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**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-burning-your-embacies/343393/17 "2006-02-07T18:26:46Z")

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> [@Neurotik](#):
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> Actually, no, many of our allies in Europes have made it a crime to publicly deny that the Holocaust happened: Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, France, Germany, Israel, Lithuania, Netherlands, Poland, Romania, Slovakia and Switzerland.

D’oh!

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-burning-your-embacies/343393/18 "2006-02-07T18:45:12Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Despite its many denials Iran, with its nascent cartoon enrichment program, is clearly on the road to obtaining drawings of mass destruction within the next few years. I can only hope that the UN for once acts decisively on this urgent crisis. Given Israel’s supposedly secret but well-documented strategic satire delivery systems, I am gravely concerned that we are heading for a confrontation that will make the battle between Judge Doom and Toontown look like, well, a Froot Loops cereal commercial.
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> And for those of you who will inevitably point out that many other countries already possess a similar capability, and that only one, the USA, has ever actually used it, I remind you that that was a different time. We were in a state of total war, and the relentless drawing of buck-toothed, squinty-eyed “Japs”, although inhumane by today’s standards, was considered at the time to be our best chance to bring that horrifying conflict to an early conclusion.

And things WILL escalate. First it’s a one off, then a two panel–next thing you know, it’s a full blown Sunday page, IN COLOR.

the unspeakable horror of it. Oh, the humanity!

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**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-burning-your-embacies/343393/19 "2006-02-07T19:03:07Z")

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Yanno, this is an paper chase (sorry, couldn’t quite call it an arms race) I could really support. Maybe we can convince Tehran that weapons of mass communication are more effective than those of mass destruction?

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**Author:** ![M.Meursault](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b487fb/32.png) [@M.Meursault](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/M.Meursault)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-burning-your-embacies/343393/20 "2006-02-07T19:06:45Z")

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> [@Mindfield](#):
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> WTF does the holocaust have to do with caricatures of the prophet Mohammad? One was a historical atrocity, the other is a jab at a religious figure. If they wanted to do this on equal footing they’d have done some cartoons of Jesus or something.

They don’t have much to do with each other; they’re just _very_ sacred cows, depending on which crowd you’re in. Like going up to Pat Robertson and asking him why Jesus can’t eat M&Ms.

In re the OP: Meh. It’s childish and intentionally provocative, like those “test cases” who will burn a flag the second a law banning flag burning is passed. The exercise in free speech has merits but they’re just doing it for the wrong reasons. I’m just not getting worked up about it.

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