# I call bullshit on Mary Chapin Carptenter's new Starbucks cup quote **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 1, 2005, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975 "2005-11-01T21:22:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/21 "2005-11-01T23:00:56Z")
> [@VCO3](#): > > This did not happen and is a complete fabrication, contrived to gloat over the state of “the kids these days.” There are stranger things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/22 "2005-11-01T23:03:33Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > Fuck yeah it happened! She was wearing her robo-cop douchbag bluetooth cell phone accessory at the time and was talking to me! _So I heard it!_ > > Top it! > > Top it! > > Top it! Not only that, she was talking to her Brazilian teenage prostitute procurer on the damn thing… ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/23 "2005-11-01T23:04:42Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Not only that, she was talking to her Brazilian teenage prostitute procurer on the damn thing… Pre-teen. Damnit, didn’t anybody read the continuity? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/24 "2005-11-01T23:05:55Z")
> [@Binarydrone](#): > > Tottaly disagree. **VCO3** , is the most amusing thing to happen around here in far longer than I would care to think about. These are the sort of threads that I am paying money to see. Hmmm…you have a point there. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/25 "2005-11-01T23:06:33Z")
Hey! Did **Jay Jay** just call me a pimp!? Well, thank you! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![FilmGeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@FilmGeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FilmGeek)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/26 "2005-11-01T23:07:27Z")
If someone asked me, out of nowhere, “Have you heard Strawberry Fields Forever”, I would think she was talking about a band named after the song, and I’d be really confused. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/27 "2005-11-01T23:08:16Z")
> [@Binarydrone](#): > > Tottaly disagree. **VCO3** , is the most amusing thing to happen around here in far longer than I would care to think about. These are the sort of threads that I am paying money to see. Hmmm…you have a point there. And could someone please explain the whole “Brazilian teenage prostitute” thing? I swear, we need a thread to address all the inside jokes on this board. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/28 "2005-11-01T23:08:18Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > I can believe it. There are a LOT of stupid people out there. Let’s assume it might be true. Why is it stupid for an 18-year-old kid to not know a song (and not even one of the more famous songs by) a band that broke up more than ten years before he was born? I wonder how well versed you are in all pop culture trivia I could throw at you from the 60s? Boy, I don’t know what your personal definition of “stupidity” is, but in my humble opinion, not being familiar with the title of a mediocre 1967 pop ditty isn’t a cornerstone of human knowledge. In any event, while the story could happen, it doesn’t sound believable. It’s just too well formed, too pat. It sounds made up. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/29 "2005-11-01T23:09:44Z")
It’s possible that he knew the song but thought she was asking if he had ever heard of a _band_ called “Strawberry Fields Forever.” There are lots of bands named after songs or song references so I might have assumed that was what she meant. I would have asked for clarification, though. Of course, it’s just as likely that he didn’t know that song even if he knew who the Beatles were. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/30 "2005-11-01T23:10:51Z")
I believe it happened. And ya know what? I don’t think it’s that big of a deal. Strawberry Fields Forever isn’t that great a song, IMHO. And relative to other Beatles songs, it doesn’t get as much airplay and it doesn’t have as many covers. Morever, not everyone gives a flying fuck about 60s rock n roll. The young barista (whatever the hell that word means…too lazy to look it up) may not be hip to that genre, but may be very familiar with contemporary jazz, R&B, or country. To me, it’s majorly arrogant for someone to make a big deal out of someone’s ignorance about one fuckin’ song (so if anything, pit her for this). Who the fuck cares? Take the Beatles out of pop culture and the world will keep turning. I’m fuckin’ sick of people acting like their musical tastes are universally shared. Or that they should be. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/31 "2005-11-01T23:11:24Z")
> [@FilmGeek](#): > > If someone asked me, out of nowhere, “Have you heard Strawberry Fields Forever”, I would think she was talking about a band named after the song, and I’d be really confused. I ran across Charles Manson whilst browsing wikipedia today, and the link for Spahn Ranch went to some band. Umm, just thought I’d share. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/32 "2005-11-01T23:12:05Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > Hey! Did **Jay Jay** just call me a pimp!? > > Well, thank you! 🙂 New forum inspired: **Pimp My Post**. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/33 "2005-11-01T23:13:26Z")
True enough, **RickJay**. Substitute “ignorant” for stupid then. ---
**Author:** ![TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/34 "2005-11-01T23:16:24Z")
> [@Binarydrone](#): > > Tottaly disagree. **VCO3** , is the most amusing thing to happen around here in far longer than I would care to think about. These are the sort of threads that I am paying money to see. Thanks; but please don’t just write me off as some lunatic fringe whackjob punchline like some of the people around here; I’ve been contributing some hot topics and great OP’s over in Cafe Society and GQ. I’m just entitled to my fair share of pit freakouts like anyone else! 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/35 "2005-11-01T23:24:07Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > And could someone please explain the whole “Brazilian teenage prostitute” thing? I swear, we need a thread to address all the inside jokes on this board. [**VCO3** expresses displeasure](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=342450) at new trends in cell phone headsets. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/36 "2005-11-01T23:25:41Z")
> [@Campion](#): > > Have you considered switching to decaf? Actually, I think he just needs to move straight on to poppy tea. This is a bloke who makes March Hares look like pinnacles of lucidity. At least the Bluetooth cellphone headset rant had potental for humor. This is just lame…even after a three-and-a-half beer lunch. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/37 "2005-11-01T23:45:21Z")
Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/38 "2005-11-01T23:52:22Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > [**VCO3** expresses displeasure](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=342450) at new trends in cell phone headsets. Thanks. Whoa. That’s very…interesting. ---
**Author:** ![scout1222](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@scout1222](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scout1222)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/39 "2005-11-01T23:59:59Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > Top it! I don’t have to top anything, you hipster asshat-wearing hipster asshat. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/40 "2005-11-02T00:26:28Z")
> [@Thudlow Boink](#): > > Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see. I think I disagree. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975.md?page=3)