# I call bullshit on Mary Chapin Carptenter's new Starbucks cup quote **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 1, 2005, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975 "2005-11-01T21:22:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/41 "2005-11-02T00:36:40Z")
> [@VCO3](#): > > This did not happen and is a complete fabrication, contrived to gloat over the state of “the kids these days.” Fuck that, you Nashville hag. Just for fun, I stopped by my local Starbucks on the way home from work, and asked the person behind the counter if she had heard of “Strawberry Fields Forever.” She appeared to be 21 or younger. She replied: “No,” then turned to a coworker and said, “Hey Liz, do we have any Strawberry Fields Forever?” Coworker said, “No, I don’t think we carry that blend.” This happened about half an hour ago at a Starbucks in Northern Virginia. Comments, VCO3? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/42 "2005-11-02T00:37:50Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Comments, VCO3? Bullshit, you tired-as-hell country hag. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/43 "2005-11-02T00:43:06Z")
> [@This Year's Model](#): > > I ran across Charles Manson whilst browsing wikipedia today, and the link for Spahn Ranch went to some band. > > Umm, just thought I’d share. If it helps the OP to believe his coffee cup, I’ll admit I don’t know why this should be funny/ironic/momentous or any other adjective you care to name. I do know Charles Manson was a wacko who got a bunch of people to kill some other people, but have no idea what Spahn Ranch is/was. I’m 30, FTR, but I’m not a barista. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/44 "2005-11-02T00:50:10Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Just for fun, I stopped by my local Starbucks on the way home from work, and asked the person behind the counter if she had heard of “Strawberry Fields Forever.” She appeared to be 21 or younger. > > She replied: “No,” then turned to a coworker and said, “Hey Liz, do we have any Strawberry Fields Forever?” Coworker said, “No, I don’t think we carry that blend.” > > This happened about half an hour ago at a Starbucks in Northern Virginia. > > Comments, VCO3? That means nothing. Just because she thought you were ordering a coffee blend called SFF, that doesn’t mean she doesn’t know the song. Being a customer in a Starbucks, she took the context that made more sense to her. She’s there to sling coffee, not be quizzed on music history. ---
**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/45 "2005-11-02T00:56:42Z")
> [@VCO3](#): > > Fuck that, you Nashville hag. I’ve met her. She’s hot. :wally ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/46 "2005-11-02T01:03:50Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > I think I disagree. Hey, it’s nothing to get hung about. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/47 "2005-11-02T01:03:55Z")
When my daughter heard the Stones’ “I Can’t Get No Satisfaction.” she thought they had stolen it from Britney Spears. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/48 "2005-11-02T01:07:28Z")
It turns out that I actually do have “Strawberry Fields Forever” (two versions!) but I never listen to it. Heck, I don’t think I’ve ever listened to all of Magical Mystery Tour. It’s not even the best song on the album. Penny Lane and All You Need Is Love get far more airplay. I mean, I’ve got about 4300 songs available to me at any given time. Plus more whenever I buy another CD or download another single. Not counting One, I’ve got 9 Beatles albums (yeah, so I’m missing a couple. I’m a completist but not that much of a completist.) That gives me 180 Beatles songs. So not quite 4% of my music collection (in terms of files) are the Beatles. And I think that the largest percentage of my collection actually is the Beatles, though my Led Zeppelin collection is close. But unless it comes up on shuffle or I am just really in the mood for the Beatles, those songs don’t get played that often. And I still think a better comeback would’ve been “Yeah (whether or not this is true.) Do you know Elderly Woman Behind the Counter in a Small Town (insert other favorite song from the 90s or 00s here)?” ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/49 "2005-11-02T01:12:52Z")
> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#): > > Bullshit, you tired-as-hell country hag. > > Daniel Hee hee. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/50 "2005-11-02T01:17:24Z")
I grew up when everyone and their sister owned at least one Beatles’ album and there are a ton of their songs I wouldn’t know by name, and a good chunk of them also that I wouldn’t recognize if I heard them. It wasn’t that I disliked the Beatles, I’ve just always been sort of “strange” when it comes to music. In my life I’ve probably bought 4 records, 6 cassette tapes, and 10 CDs. I don’t tend to buy music, I enjoy music quite a bit from a casual stand point but have just never been one who cares much for amassing a huge number of albums and learning all the songs of any given band, I just don’t have any “band loyalty” whatsoever. I also don’t “get” people that memorize song lyrics. I really could care less about what a song says, or what “message” a song write is trying to convey. I like given works for the instrumental and sometimes for the vocals (as in the actual singing voice but not the actual words being said.) There’s probably been 50+ instances in my life where I’m in a group situation and EVERYONE is able to sing a given song’s lyrics word for word and I can’t even get a single line correct. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/51 "2005-11-02T01:24:48Z")
I was bored and watching one of those VH1 countdowns and it was “Least Metal Moments”, and one of them was Puff Daddy’s (or Diddle or Piddle or whatever the fuck he calls himself now) sampling of “Kashmir.” One of the guys speaking used to play in a band, or he was a roady or something, I can’t remember off hand, said his nephew was talking to him and saying, “Dammit, I LOVE that new Puff Daddy song!” And he was amazed when his uncle told him, “Fuck Puffy. That’s Led Zeppelin.” Or what about Britney Spears saying, in reference to her remake of “I Love Rock and Roll”, “Oh yeah, I love Pat Benatar!” ---
**Author:** ![lonesome\_loser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c68b51/32.png) [@lonesome\_loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lonesome_loser)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/52 "2005-11-02T01:27:39Z")
> [@Khadaji](#): > > Not quite the same thing, but the following happened to me: > > I was in my office in 2000 listening to the Stones’ Saint Of Me. A friend came in and said he didn’t know I listened to Christian music. I laughed and said it was the Rolling Stones. He paused, embarassed, and said that he wasn’t familiar with classic rock. I’m 53 yrs old. Came up through the 60’s listening to the Stones and have since then. But I can’t tell you I have ever heard that song. Just how deep a cut is that? ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/53 "2005-11-02T01:38:08Z")
> [@lonesome loser](#): > > I’m 53 yrs old. Came up through the 60’s listening to the Stones and have since then. But I can’t tell you I have ever heard that song. Just how deep a cut is that? It was released in 98. That is why I was entertained. First he thought it was Christian rock, then he thought it was classic rock (just because the Stones did it.) [Saint Of Me](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000000W4C/qid=1130895319/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/002-9385941-6670400?v=glance&s=music) As I said, it wasn’t the same as the OP’s story, but his story made me think of this. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/54 "2005-11-02T01:42:43Z")
> [@VCO3](#): > > please don’t just write me off as some lunatic fringe whackjob punchline like some of the people around here Wouldn’t dream of it. You are _ **the** _ lunatic fringe whackjob punchline. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/55 "2005-11-02T01:44:01Z")
> [@Khadaji](#): > > It was released in 98. That is why I was entertained. First he thought it was Christian rock, then he thought it was classic rock (just because the Stones did it.) > > [Saint Of Me](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000000W4C/qid=1130895319/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/002-9385941-6670400?v=glance&s=music) > > As I said, it wasn’t the same as the OP’s story, but his story made me think of this. But the Stones sound exactly the same now as they did then. Plus, nobody but diehard Stones fans buy the new albums. I love the Stones (and I’m only 24), but if I heard a song I’d never heard before, I’d assume it came from the 60s. An obscure song is an obscure song. ---
**Author:** ![TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/56 "2005-11-02T01:47:43Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > This happened about half an hour ago at a Starbucks in Northern Virginia. > > Comments, VCO3? Dude, it’s Northern Virginia. All bets are off. ---
**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/57 "2005-11-02T01:49:42Z")
I’m 21-years-old and I certainly haven’t heard of Strawberry Fields Forever. As **VCO3** said, the story is bullshit 'cause when some geriatric is asking you if you’ve heard of some nonsense, you don’t respond “Is it new?” You know that you haven’t heard of it because you weren’t alive to hear of some lame hippie band. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/58 "2005-11-02T01:56:50Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > I do know Charles Manson was a wacko who got a bunch of people to kill some other people, but have no idea what Spahn Ranch is/was. Spahn Ranch is where the Manson “Family” was living at the time of the Tate/LaBianca murders. I was not expecting a link in that story to take me to a band from the 90s. Why I posted it, who knows? My mind works in tangential ways at times. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/59 "2005-11-02T01:57:43Z")
> [@Palooka](#): > > As **VCO3** said, the story is bullshit 'cause when some geriatric is asking you if you’ve heard of some nonsense, you don’t respond “Is it new?” Geriatric? Why you… Get off my lawn! ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/60 "2005-11-02T02:03:40Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Dude, you seriously, SERIOUSLY need to calm the fuck down. It’s a quote on coffee cup at Starbucks, for fucksakes. > > Get over YOURself. I wish someone other than me had said that in the other Starbucks thread. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975.md?page=4)