# I call bullshit on Mary Chapin Carptenter's new Starbucks cup quote **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 1, 2005, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975 "2005-11-01T21:22:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![WilhelmGefallen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9f8e36/32.png) [@WilhelmGefallen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WilhelmGefallen)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/61 "2005-11-02T02:11:02Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Paul McCartney was in a band before _Wings_? You mean Paul McCartney was in the TV Show with Thomas Haden Church? which episode I must’ve missed it ---
**Author:** ![Campion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@Campion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Campion)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/62 "2005-11-02T02:17:35Z")
> [@Stranger On A Train](#): > > This is just lame…even after a three-and-a-half beer lunch. As long as you didn’t drink Jaeger. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ooner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/c67d28/32.png) [@Ooner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ooner)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/63 "2005-11-02T02:45:40Z")
So, how is your campaign for “biggest overreacting jackass with no concept of reality” going? I suspect you’ve got a formidable lead. ---
**Author:** ![DeadlyAccurate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac91a4/32.png) [@DeadlyAccurate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadlyAccurate)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/64 "2005-11-02T03:05:54Z")
> [@Palooka](#): > > I’m 21-years-old and I certainly haven’t heard of Strawberry Fields Forever. I’m _31_, and I never heard of it either, nor did I have a clue who sang it until this thread. Why should I? I don’t listen to classic rock. Except, apparently, _Sweet Home Alabama_, and that’s only because it’s played on every damn movie on the planet. I’m even sure it was playing during \*Braveheart, Gladiator, \* and _The Passion of the Christ._ But that’s a lame rant for another thread. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/65 "2005-11-02T03:07:39Z")
> [@VCO3](#): > > Dude, it’s Northern Virginia. All bets are off. Mary Chapin Carpenter is from this area. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/66 "2005-11-02T03:31:23Z")
> [@VCO3](#): > > Thanks; but please don’t just write me off as some lunatic fringe whackjob punchline like some of the people around here; I’ve been contributing some hot topics and great OP’s over in Cafe Society and GQ. I’m just entitled to my fair share of pit freakouts like anyone else! 🆒 Please do continue to post here, because I’m looking forward to hearing more about your financial opinions and ideas, including that you have no interest in owning stock and believe that “[using them to make money is ethically wrong.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6628554&postcount=5)” You keep your money “[in the bank in an interest-free account, mainly because I see no reason to hoard my money in an interest-generating savings account.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6631846&postcount=35)” You have no interest in buying a [house/condo/property](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=339189). [Retailers should sell stuff for less so people will buy more](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=333458). And that [it’s not all that expensive to run a messageboard.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=336560) ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/67 "2005-11-02T04:54:31Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Not only that, she was talking to her Brazilian teenage prostitute procurer on the damn thing… You sure it wasn’t just to gossip about his wife paying for his theatre ticket? **d & r** ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/68 "2005-11-02T05:03:28Z")
> [@Palooka](#): > > I’m 21-years-old and I certainly haven’t heard of Strawberry Fields Forever. > > As **VCO3** said, the story is bullshit 'cause when some geriatric is asking you if you’ve heard of some nonsense, you don’t respond “Is it new?” You know that you haven’t heard of it because you weren’t alive to hear of some lame hippie band. Please tell me you are NOT referring to the fucking BEATLES as a “lame hippie band?” :eek: ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/69 "2005-11-02T05:26:00Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Please tell me you are NOT referring to the fucking BEATLES as a “lame hippie band?” > > :eek: They were good until Yoko got near. Then they became a lame hippie band. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/70 "2005-11-02T07:16:13Z")
News flash. The Beatles SUCK! It’s true, kids today have access to a billion more bands then kids in the 60’s did. They don’t have to settle for the fucking Beatles. Strawberry Fields Forever sucks as well. The recording is dated, the music is mediocre and the lyrics are just dumb. ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/71 "2005-11-02T08:09:20Z")
> [@This Year's Model](#): > > Geriatric? Why you… Get off my lawn! That was the Stones, wasn’t it? “I said hey! {hey} you! {you} get off of my lawn!” ---
**Author:** ![Gamaliel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b487fb/32.png) [@Gamaliel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gamaliel)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/72 "2005-11-02T08:32:19Z")
> [@This Year's Model](#): > > Spahn Ranch is where the Manson “Family” was living at the time of the Tate/LaBianca murders. I was not expecting a link in that story to take me to a band from the 90s. It doesn’t anymore. I threw up a short article on the ranch and changed the title of the band’s article. ---
**Author:** ![Corrvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bbce88/32.png) [@Corrvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corrvin)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/73 "2005-11-02T08:44:36Z")
> [@](#): > > So I said, "hey, have you ever heard “Strawberry Fields Forever?” After furrowing his brow and looking lost, he replied, “Can’t say that I have. Is it new?” If I were working at Starbucks and someone asked me an off the wall question like this that had jack-all to do with coffee or anything else we sold, I would play as dumb as humanly possible. I’d probably say “Sure, but ever since I’ve been taking Claritin, it’s gone away.” Come on. People don’t ask stuff like that to be friendly; they do it to prove that they’re hipper than you. Why prove them wrong? Why not have a little fun with them? Corrvin ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/74 "2005-11-02T08:52:42Z")
> [@Gamaliel](#): > > It doesn’t anymore. I threw up a short article on the ranch and changed the title of the band’s article. Nice work. ---
**Author:** ![Anastasaeon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/73ab20/32.png) [@Anastasaeon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anastasaeon)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/75 "2005-11-02T08:54:04Z")
I’m a Beatles fan, but that was the doing of my father. It’s also why I’m a fan of the Clash and the B-52s and Devo. Otherwise? Heh. I would have no idea. I’m 27. I don’t know many Rolling Stones songs because my father hated them. When my husband greeted one of our cats by saying, “Hey, Bulldog!” I looked up at him and said, “Oh, wow, I just got that song today! Spooky. I was listening to it, like, five minutes before you got home.” He looks at me and says, “Song? By who?” He’s 25. Two of my exes also had no clue what songs the Beatles did. Well, one of them claimed to hate the Beatles, because all they ever wrote was “sappy little three minute songs, like \*I Wanna Hold Your Hand \* and crap like that.” I played him a few songs like “Strawberry Fields Forever”, “I Am the Walrus” (for the hell of it, and to show some whackiness), “Across the Universe” - he was stunned. He had no idea that the Beatles “could sound so good”. He was 20 at the time, he’s 25 now. My other ex is 24. He can be quoted wildly. One gem: “What the hell did the Beatles ever do for music that was so damn great? I don’t understand how they influenced anybody. I only like _pioneers_. The Beatles suck.” And maybe they do. Maybe they do. I like 'em, though. But I notice, among my peers, that the Beatles are barely a blip at the bottom of their musical radar. They were the band that had the guy my mother had a crush on when she was a teenager. How lame is _that_? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/76 "2005-11-02T13:15:13Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > But the Stones sound exactly the same now as they did then. > > Plus, nobody but diehard Stones fans buy the new albums. > > I love the Stones (and I’m only 24), but if I heard a song I’d never heard before, I’d assume it came from the 60s. An obscure song is an obscure song. Naw, it was played heavily on our local stations. Dunno about the rest of the country, but here they played at least once a day. In fact, I was listening to the radio on the day of this story - I rarely buy CDs at all. ---
**Author:** ![Epimetheus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c4cdca/32.png) [@Epimetheus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epimetheus)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/77 "2005-11-02T13:48:20Z")
Well, I’m 28 and have never heard that song. Can’t say it has affected me in the slightest. ---
**Author:** ![Jurph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/50afbb/32.png) [@Jurph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jurph)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/78 "2005-11-02T14:10:18Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > I believe it happened. And ya know what? I don’t think it’s that big of a deal. Strawberry Fields Forever isn’t that great a song, IMHO. And relative to other Beatles songs, it doesn’t get as much airplay and it doesn’t have as many covers. I’m 27, and while I know that Strawberry Fields Forever is a Beatles song, I could not give you any of the lyrics or hum the chorus. Also, Mary Chapin Carpenter is a great songwriter and singer, and her version of Mark Knopfler’s “The Bug” is absolutely stellar. I give the OP about a 4 – all for sheer emotion. Maybe a 5 if he’s not over-caffeinated. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/79 "2005-11-02T14:26:15Z")
What’s all this about Harry Chapin and The Carpenters now? Speak up, sonny! ---
**Author:** ![TwoTrouts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9adbd/32.png) [@TwoTrouts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwoTrouts)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975/80 "2005-11-02T14:52:13Z")
Let’s take this recent conversation I had with my 18 year old step-daughter as a case for the barista’s lack of knowledge. Some new group was palying a cover of “Behind Blue Eyes” on the radio. Me: “Hey, _Behind Blue Eyes_! That’s a great song. Her:” You know it?" Me: “Yeah. It’s by The Who.” Her: “The _Who_??? What a stupid name for a band!” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-bullshit-on-mary-chapin-carptenters-new-starbucks-cup-quote/328975.md?page=5)