# I call it! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 23, 2005, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-it/332412 "2005-11-23T13:24:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-it/332412/41 "2005-11-23T22:08:20Z")
> [@zev\_steinhardt](#): > > Could be. My grandmother was born and lived most of her life in New York City, so I never associated it with being from a particular region. > > Zev Steinhardt My Polack Catholic uncle makes it every Christmas. It seems to be a traditional Russian/Polish dish. Now, I personally have never had it, but then, it COULD be Slavic Jewish, though, for all I know. (I loves me some Polack food.) ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-it/332412/42 "2005-11-23T22:58:16Z")
**Kalhoun** For decades American Jews and blacks were united in brotherhood. White Jews marched in the marches and sat in on the sit ins. There were even white Jewish presidents of the NAACP. Two things changed all this. The establishment of Israel convinced many Jews that their effort and money were needed to fight for Isreal, not equal rights. There was a schism over affirmitive action quotas. Many Jews saw quotas as discriminatory and opposed them. In the nineties, a lot of Jews looked to Collen Powel (Though he is Carribean American rather than African American) to heal the rift. Re Borscht I live in a Russian neighborhood. Borscht , and many other foods, started as Slavic, were adopted by Jewish settlers and then carried on our wanderings. I cannot find kosher meat at my neighborhood market. But, there are plenty of varieties of blintzes, herring, kreplach, and halvah. OTTOMH, I believe they have a great selection of kasha as well. Re Gefilte Fish AFAIK this food did originate with German Jews. Unable to obtain fish, they mashed chicken, potatoes, onions, formed them into lumps and pickled them. The result was called falshe (my spelling may be off) fish. Later, a Jew who could get fish decided to substitute it for chicken and try the recipe. The rest is delicious history which should be served with horseradish and a carrot chip for garnish. I cannot understand the disgust some of you view gefilte fish with. I’ve loved it for as long as I can remember. It’s a favorite of my five-year-old niece. But, when **Cleophus** visited and I offered him food, he insisted “No geliftigey fish!”. When I offered to treat him to some Russian delicacies, he said he’d like some halvah “But no geftigel fish!” ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2005, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-it/332412/43 "2005-11-24T00:19:06Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Who is “they”? Well, the animosity between the Jewish people and crazy-ass pop singers who have too much plastic surgery goes back centuries… ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2005, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-it/332412/44 "2005-11-24T00:47:48Z")
Har de har, Miller. What I was saying is a long-standing discussion Zev and I have occasionally had regarding anti-semites. I maintain that nothing we can do or say will move them off their position of hating us. It’s just something we have to live with. ---
**Author:** ![koeeoaddi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/koeeoaddi/32/408_2.png) [@koeeoaddi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koeeoaddi)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2005, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-it/332412/45 "2005-11-24T01:19:03Z")
> [@Zebra](#): > > I’m not Jewish but can I have one of the llamas? I’ve always wanted a llama. I wasn’t raised in the faith, but half of my family is Jewish. So, they’re on my father’s side, if **Zebra** gets a llama, I should at least be able to snag a couple of giraffes. ---
**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2005, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-it/332412/46 "2005-11-24T02:10:19Z")
As one of the few people that formerly thought the little child-fucker was extremely misunderstood, and in love with boys instead of actually ‘loving’ boys, I now state for the record that this leechey Jewish guy hopes that the sonofabitch finally gets what’s coming to him. Sam ---
**Author:** ![Pixiesnix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Pixiesnix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pixiesnix)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2005, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-it/332412/47 "2005-11-24T06:07:19Z")
I’m dating a Jewish girl. Can I at least get Tito? ---
**Author:** ![Rysdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7cd45c/32.png) [@Rysdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysdad)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2005, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-it/332412/48 "2005-11-24T06:31:41Z")
I’m not Jewish, but I go to the local Jewish deli a lot. Is that monkey still up for grabs? PS- I heard that phone call on the radio this morning. Mikey is, uh, what comes after weird? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2005, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-it/332412/49 "2005-11-24T06:39:03Z")
> [@DocCathode](#): > > Re Borscht > > I live in a Russian neighborhood. Borscht , and many other foods, started as Slavic, were adopted by Jewish settlers and then carried on our wanderings. I cannot find kosher meat at my neighborhood market. But, there are plenty of varieties of blintzes, herring, kreplach, and halvah. OTTOMH, I believe they have a great selection of kasha as well. Yeah, my mom’s side of the family has always made potato pancakes, so I guess they got that from Polish Jews? I hope for your sake pierogies are kosher (if they’re not filled with meat). Because dammit, they are the closest we’ll ever have to culinary heaven! ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2005, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-it/332412/50 "2005-11-24T07:36:45Z")
Gefilte fish? Borscht? Schav? You guys are hanging around the wrong Jewish communities. Why don’t y’all stop by here, and my wife will whip us up a bunch of stuffed peppers and huevos haminados. As to the OP, frankly, I’d be more worried if MJ claimed to _like_ Jews. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2005, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-it/332412/51 "2005-11-24T11:07:45Z")
Wait. From the article: > [@](#): > > Jackson had to apologize to Jewish groups a decade ago after he included lyrics like “Jew me/Sue me/Everybody do me/Kick me/Kike me” on the song “They Don’t Care About Us.” Huh? Wouldn’t this have been a little bigger news a decade ago? Or did the Jews not control the media then as they do now… Kidding, kidding. Actually, I just looked info on the song. It reached #30 on the pop charts. Some media outlets claim that he changed the lyrics and apologized at the time. I can’t believe that I missed all of this… How much drugs did I do in 1995? I believe that anti-Semitism is the least of Wacko Jacko’s problems to be honest, and while I also believe that there are no excuses for such attitudes, I will attempt to explain it - many important people in the formative years of the music business as we know it were Jewish and many of the early music businessmen took advantage of the musicians, many of whom were black. Spike Lee (who, coincidentally, directed a video for the song in question) was accused of such stereotypes when he put Jewish characters (characatures according to some) as the evil club owners who ripped off the black musicians in _Mo’ Better Blues_. You would think that someone of MJ’s stature and relatively recent popularity - as opposed to some old blues guy who got ripped off back in the '40s - wouldn’t harbor such feelings. However, then you see [disturbing articles online](http://rense.com/general44/sevenjewishamericans.htm) that point out how many of the biggest recording companies are ran by Jewish people and you see why MJ - whose popularity has slipped as often as his nose - feels this way. Many musicians feel that the system is unfair to them and favors the guys in the suits. When the guys in the suits also go to Temple and have stereoypes of being greedy, they get all anti-Semetic. For the record, I abhor anti-Semitism and just about any reason for it, including MJ’s reasons, are far from acceptable to me. I merely explain why he probably feels the way he does. We cannot overcome our enemy ignorance if we do not endeavor to understand it… As for the OP, I like bagels a lot… Can I get “Helter Skelter?” ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2005, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-it/332412/52 "2005-11-24T16:36:53Z")
**Jonathan Chance** , I am a Methodist who agress with you 100%. There is no changing some people’s minds, no matter what is presented to them. I have similar problems with all fundamentalist-type Christian folks. I don’t get it. How can people function in daily life with their minds jammed shut all the time? ;j ---
**Author:** ![WilhelmGefallen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9f8e36/32.png) [@WilhelmGefallen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WilhelmGefallen)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2005, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-it/332412/53 "2005-11-25T01:39:28Z")
> [@Trion](#): > > Ewwww… Why would you want it? . Thats an easy one, he will rent it out by the hour to the Catholic Church as a holiday retreat and become a billionaire 😃 ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2005, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-it/332412/54 "2005-11-25T04:17:55Z")
> [@EJsGirl](#): > > I don’t get it. How can people function in daily life with their minds jammed shut all the time? > > ;j Autopilot is easy. Just do, say, and think what everyone around you does, says and thinks. No sweat, no worries, no long dark teatime of the soul. I notice no one is laying claim to the chimpanzee. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2005, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-it/332412/55 "2005-11-25T04:22:40Z")
I remember when he did that song with the slurs. Stephen Spielberg blasted the shit out of him for it. ---
**Author:** ![movingfinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@movingfinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/movingfinger)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2005, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-it/332412/56 "2005-11-25T04:34:36Z")
Actually, I changed my name some years ago from Movingfingerstein, but just for business purposes, understand. Besides, I was married to a Jew, I’m circumcised, I went to Hamilton High in LA when that was a 98% Jewish school, I have eaten at Canter’s deli on Fairfax on more than one occasion, All that has got to entitle me to at least a little bit of the swag. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2005, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-it/332412/57 "2005-11-25T05:11:03Z")
> [@John\_Stamos'\_Left\_Ear](#): > > Wait. > > From the article:Huh? Wouldn’t this have been a little bigger news a decade ago? Or did the Jews not control the media then as they do now… > > Kidding, kidding. > Actually, I just looked info on the song. It reached #30 on the pop charts. Some media outlets claim that he changed the lyrics and apologized at the time. I can’t believe that I missed all of this… How much drugs did I do in 1995? If I recall correctly, the album (HIStory) was “recalled” (if you brought your copy with the bad lyrics in, they’d give you a new, clean one). And for that brilliance, I’d like a llama. No, I’m not Jewish, but damnit- llamas fucking rule. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2005, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-it/332412/58 "2005-11-26T13:38:01Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Yeah, my mom’s side of the family has always made potato pancakes, so I guess they got that from Polish Jews? They might have. But potato pancakes arose independently in a few places. They are a part of traditional Irish cuisine as well. > [@](#): > > I hope for your sake pierogies are kosher They are indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2005, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-it/332412/59 "2005-11-26T14:08:48Z")
> [@vetbridge](#): > > I call. . . oops, I am not a Jew. Can I call something if my conversion is filed? Who do I file it with? Back up there, hoss. You should really consider a small, sharp, sterilized knife for your conversion. A file is gonna **hurt**. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2005, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-it/332412/60 "2005-11-26T16:05:27Z")
I went to nursery school at a synagogue. Does that qualify me for any of the booty? Maybe a parrot or something? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-it/332412.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-call-it/332412.md?page=4)