# I can only assume Michael Caine needs a new house

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 20, 2015, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-can-only-assume-michael-caine-needs-a-new-house/735209 "2015-10-20T02:51:37Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-can-only-assume-michael-caine-needs-a-new-house/735209/21 "2015-10-22T17:05:59Z")

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> [@G0sp3l](#):
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> I did not know Diesel was a gamer. I’ll have to re-think my opinion of him.
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> Still not gonna spend MY money going to see this movie, though.

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> His love for WoW and D&D is fairly well-known; he’s been a gamer all his life.

IIRC ole’ Vinny has his characters name tattooed on his body somewhere and he wrote the intro to some D&D book.

I didn’t know that this movie came about as a real-life (“real life”) iteration of his character. Which, actually, makes me want to see the movie more…

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**Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-can-only-assume-michael-caine-needs-a-new-house/735209/22 "2015-10-22T17:14:37Z")

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[Dork Tower](http://www.dorktower.com/2012/04/06/hollywood-hexagons-dork-tower-06-03-12/)

[Dork #2](http://www.dorktower.com/2003/04/09/comics-archive-410/)

[Dork #3](http://www.dorktower.com/2003/04/14/comics-archive-412/)

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-can-only-assume-michael-caine-needs-a-new-house/735209/23 "2015-10-23T02:35:43Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> Dirty Rotten Scoundrels was not dreck! I poke you in the eye with a fork!
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> Oh wait, was that wrong. Should I not have done that?

I think you actually MEANT to whack me repeatedly across my limp, unfeeling legs.

You’re right, of course. That was a very enjoyable movie- one that Caine admits he did mostly because he’d get to spend a few months on the Riviera.

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**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-can-only-assume-michael-caine-needs-a-new-house/735209/24 "2015-10-23T14:20:34Z")

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ScreenRant panned the movie. They say it has original ideas, but also has plot holes that are enormous, uneven acting and direction, and cliched plot lines. Worth it if you are a Vin fan, but not otherwise.

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**Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-can-only-assume-michael-caine-needs-a-new-house/735209/25 "2015-10-24T21:46:15Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Caine makes no bones about it: he likes to work, he likes the money it brings in, and he’s not always choosy about the roles he takes.

I think he’s got some phobic thing about not working. He really is driven to work all the time. Money is really secondary. Nice to have, sure, but the work is the goal.

Another actor with this mentality is Edward James Olmos. He’ll do _Stand and Deliver_ as well as [A Million to Juan](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110518/).

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**Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-can-only-assume-michael-caine-needs-a-new-house/735209/26 "2015-10-24T21:59:15Z")

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> [@Indyellen](#):
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> There’s supposedly a Michael Caine quote where someone asked him if he’d seen a particularly bad movie he’d done, and his answer was “No, but I’ve seen the house it built.”

The actual quote is far better, especially when read in his voice:

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> “I have never seen it,” he once said of Jaws: The Revenge (1987), in which he took a supporting role, “but by all accounts it is terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific.”

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-can-only-assume-michael-caine-needs-a-new-house/735209/27 "2015-10-25T10:58:58Z")

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> [@Blaster\_Master](#):
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> I myself and in great physical shape and almost all of my interests are considered nerdy.

How _you_ doin’?

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> Hell, when you get down to it, other than how the guys look, body building is pretty darn nerdy

Have you seen the movie [_The Wrestler_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wrestler_(2008_film))?  
Of all the wrestling matches shown in the movie, there’s one in particular where they show a lengthy locker room / “backstage” scene with all the wrestlers interacting with one another as peers and out of character. I loved this scene because it’s so enjoyable what huge nerds they all are.

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**Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-can-only-assume-michael-caine-needs-a-new-house/735209/28 "2015-10-26T12:19:29Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> The killer nerd: it’s rare, but it does exist. A very good friend of mine lead a double life in high school - he’d spend the afternoons playing D&D with us, and in the evenings, he’d go hang out with a completely different group of friends, drinking, fighting and fooling around with girls. The end result was a huge geek who once head-butted a guy into the hospital.

Like Cuco, one of my brother’s “false brothers” (four boys, born in the same apartments building in the same year).

One time Bro and Cuco were talking with the new Lit teacher, who had been lamenting that most students never go beyond the list of Required Readings. Cuco and Bro pointed out that, to a teenager, most of the books in the RR list are less interesting than watching paint dry (even when an author has books that would be interesting to a teenager, the people making up the RR invariably seem to pick the worst brick). The teacher asked what books would they recommend, and the conversation progressed from there. After it was discovered that the teacher had never read a single fantasy book, Cuco and Bro drew straws to decide who’d lend him The Hobbit, as well as giving him a list of authors to check on his own time.

And then the teacher told Cuco “I am surprised, I had never expected you to be a reader”. “And if you tell I’ll make sure you regret it damnit! I’ve got a thug reputation to keep up with, man! :mad:” Dude was viewed as scary and “one of the bad boys”, but his reputation and his shoulders were large enough to actually be able to avoid most fights.

There was also that asshole who had been signed up for karate by his parents, in hopes that the desire to be able to compete (which you’re banned from if you get into fights) would keep him out of trouble. But, unlike Cuco, I doubt Alex ever read anything he wasn’t forced to.

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**Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-can-only-assume-michael-caine-needs-a-new-house/735209/29 "2015-10-26T16:17:45Z")

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This just popped into my mind, from an ancient episode of Dick Cavett’s old talk show.

Roger Moore was talking about Michael Caine, who was a very old friend of his, and he said something like, "When Michael and I were just starting out, we had a chance to meet Noel Coward, who told us something I’ve never forgotten: ‘Always take every role you’re offered, because you’re not truly an actor if you’re not working. And if you’re ever lucky enough to get two offers simultaneously, take the one that pays better.’ "

Moore followed that advice up to a point, but it seems to have become Caine’s creed. I don’t think he LIKES doing junk. Rather, I think he gets nervous when he’s unemployed for more than a few weeks, and is inclined to take any job that comes along.

A lot of older actors worry that each role may be their last. Donald Sutherland certainly feels that way, and he says of every movie he does, “I just hope it’s successful enough that I’m still working next year.”

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**Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-can-only-assume-michael-caine-needs-a-new-house/735209/30 "2015-10-26T16:37:15Z")

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#1) I don’t think anyone in Hollywood knows how to make a proper trailer. I’ve seen a few movies that I re-watched on Netflix years later–where you can access the trailer–and the reaction is **What movie is this trailer for; it’s not the one _I’ve_ seen**! A good example is “The Iron Giant.” Awful trailer.

#2) Even in his turkey films, has Michael Caine ever turned in a bad performance? I bet he was thinking: **I can make this _Jaws IV_ movie a little better by being in it** (Yeah, I’m grasping).

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**Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-can-only-assume-michael-caine-needs-a-new-house/735209/31 "2015-10-26T16:58:42Z")

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Here’s a somewhat positive review on io9. I completely agree with the writer’s take on Vin Diesel, whom I’ve always liked. Sounds like something to watch on Netflix, with a beer or three.

> **[The Last Witch Hunter Is The Most Amazing Guilty Pleasure In Ages](https://gizmodo.com/the-last-witch-hunter-is-the-most-amazing-guilty-pleasu-1738222593)**
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> There are some action movies that just embrace the total absurdity of their own existence, and invite you to come along for a crazy silly ride. These are among my favorite sorts of movies out there, and I’m happy to report that The Last Witch Hunter...

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**Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-can-only-assume-michael-caine-needs-a-new-house/735209/32 "2015-10-26T22:45:35Z")

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Last Witch Hunter bombed big time.

From Yahoo:

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> Lionsgate’s The Last Witch Hunter cost $70 million to make and only brought in $10.8 million across 3,082 theaters for a fourth place finish. This paltry result came despite Diesel’s recent success with Furious 7 and his robust social media presence. Any ambitions of launching a new franchise have been extinguished.

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-can-only-assume-michael-caine-needs-a-new-house/735209/33 "2015-10-28T09:56:29Z")

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> [@G0sp3l](#):
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> I did not know Diesel was a gamer. I’ll have to re-think my opinion of him.

He even founded his own game company

> **[Tigon Studios](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tigon_Studios)**
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> Tigon Studios is a video game developer owned by One Race Films focused primarily on games featuring actor Vin Diesel, who also founded the company. Following a suspension of development work, Diesel reactivated the company in September 2013. As the name of the company implies, a tigon appears in the logo.
> The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay is set before the films Pitch Black and The Chronicles of Riddick. It is a first-person shooter.
> Wheelman is a driving game developed by M...

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2015, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-can-only-assume-michael-caine-needs-a-new-house/735209/34 "2015-11-01T06:14:06Z")

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I kinda liked it. Biggest fault I had with it was probably the leading actress. She fine on her own, but there didn’t seem to be any spark between her and Vin. Also, she is approximately 21, so the age difference between her and the 800 year old dude just grated even more than the usual Hollywood age difference.

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