# I cannot believe you are actually making a 37 year old man on a business trip kick your ass. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 16, 2010, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625 "2010-05-16T09:14:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![heatmiserfl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/df705f/32.png) [@heatmiserfl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/heatmiserfl)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/221 "2010-05-20T14:46:41Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > Mostly I learned not to start threads when I’m drunk and angry. Because like most things drunk and angry, they end up being a bit more retarded than you intended. Hey, I tried to start a fight in college when I was drunk. I gave this guy money to buy us a pitcher of beer. Well, he didn’t give me back my change and I was convinced he was tryin’ to rip me off. So I start yelling at him to give me my money and I’m gonna kick his ass, etc. etc. I had the fists in boxer mode and everything (so they tell me). He’s practically shoving the money into my hand. “Here! Here! Take it!” Why did he take the high road? 1) He wasn’t trying to steal from me, 2) I was beyond pathetic and 3) I’m a little 5’2" woman. So I finally grabbed the money and started dancing around the dance floor by myself and, for some reason, remained alone for the rest of the night. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/222 "2010-05-20T15:26:10Z")
> [@heatmiserfl](#): > > Why did he take the high road? 1) He wasn’t trying to steal from me, 2) I was beyond pathetic and 3) I’m a little 5’2" _ **woman** _. _Emphasis mine._ That’d be the reason he didn’t fight you. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/223 "2010-05-20T16:26:45Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > [QUOTE=BigT] > There is not a single person on this planet that cannot be provoked into a fight. Bullshit. [/QUOTE] “Oh yeah? Well maybe you’d like to step outside, Dr. Hawking!” ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/224 "2010-05-20T16:54:30Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > “Oh yeah? Well maybe you’d like to step outside, Dr. Hawking!” Heh. “I’m callin’ you out, [Gyatso](http://www.dalailama.com/biography/a-brief-biography)!” ---
**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/225 "2010-05-20T16:58:14Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > If I could fight anybody? I’d fight Gandhi. Just make sure you don’t get [GANDHI II](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpNB2SoNfyg)! ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/226 "2010-05-20T16:59:50Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Heh. “I’m callin’ you out, [Gyatso](http://www.dalailama.com/biography/a-brief-biography)!” Eh, I’m not as sure about him. I bet after the tenth time you greeted him with an impression of Louis Armstrong singing “Hello, Dolly” he’d be ready to throw down. ---
**Author:** ![Ibanez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a4c791/32.png) [@Ibanez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibanez)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/227 "2010-05-20T21:46:40Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > I just came in to thank\*\* A Monkey With a Gun \*\*for taking over for the remainder of the thread with his “who’s the bigger jackass” story. I’m sure it will play well here. > > I guess that end of the day, I don’t really care if people think I’m “badass”. The reality is I got into a minor confrontation in a bar, it pissed me off and I wrote about it. My goal at the time was not to show how “badass” I was or beat the crap out of some loser. It was a reaction to some jerk getting in my face. It happens. > > So now I’m all confused and don’t know if I should have walked away or smashed a bottle over his head?😕 Don’t worry about it msmith, from my interpretation there was no overwhelming smell of machismo based on your original post. You needed to vent about it and you posted it here that’s all, you recounted the event in detail. Adreanline does that. It’s one thing to put up with verbal abuse that’s bad enough, its another when a person gets in your face/personal space with it. When that happens your in a potentially dangerous situation its no fun getting sucker punched. The peanut gallery expected you to either put up with the abuse and/or get up and leave which is what the idiot want you to do in the first place. Where I’m from these people are called door mats. All you did was pushed him down, still considered assault but thats the chance you take. These same people would probably just watch while an old lady struggles with a crackhead trying to steal her purse while she gets knocked to the ground . But say well at least I called 911, alot good that did for the old lady with the broken hip. I physically defended myself from getting bitten once from a mentally challenge person and I received the same the flak. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/228 "2010-05-20T21:54:57Z")
Dude, you said you beat up a retarded guy who wanted to buy one of your toy planes. Granted, it was a thread devoted to boasting about being a douchebag, but were you really expecting a chorus of attaboys? ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/229 "2010-05-20T22:21:18Z")
Okay, now I want to hear the toy plane/biting story. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/230 "2010-05-20T22:35:21Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > Okay, now I want to hear the toy plane/biting story. Pixar is working on it as we speak. Toy Story 4, Rise of the Vampires. ---
**Author:** ![Ibanez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a4c791/32.png) [@Ibanez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibanez)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/231 "2010-05-20T22:41:51Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Dude, you said you beat up a retarded guy who wanted to buy one of your toy planes. > > Granted, it was a thread devoted to boasting about being a douchebag, but were you really expecting a chorus of attaboys? Physically stopping someone from biting my hand and possibly giving me a serious infection is alot different than beating someone up which I never did to him. I just defended myself. According to the reaction I got this is a no-no with the mentally challenged. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/232 "2010-05-20T23:02:25Z")
**Ibanez** , do you have a link to your original story? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/233 "2010-05-20T23:16:06Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > **Ibanez** , do you have a link to your original story? I’m not **Ibanez** , but [here’s the story.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=12405080#post12405080) Try not to drip any **MPSIMS** here in the Pit. 😃 “Toy Story 4, Rise of the Vampires” – hee hee. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/234 "2010-05-20T23:39:27Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > “Toy Story 4, Rise of the Vampires” – hee hee. I don’t wanna give away the plot or anything…but recall who the main character is in Toy Story. Lets just say this one ends much like the third Alien movie. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/235 "2010-05-21T04:18:06Z")
A mentally unstable guy with a white guy afro came into your store? I’m jealous. I always wanted to meet Phil Spector in person! ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/236 "2010-05-21T15:40:48Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > I don’t wanna give away the plot or anything…but recall who the main character is in Toy Story. > > Lets just say this one ends much like the third Alien movie. What, with the audience leaving the theatre in disgust and half the fanbase agreeing it shouldn’t be considered canon? ---
**Author:** ![raindrop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/74df32/32.png) [@raindrop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindrop)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/237 "2010-05-21T18:44:51Z")
I’m a bit late but here’s another perspective that nobody’s mentioned. Like many posts in this thread what follows is purely speculative, but I thought it’s worth throwing it out there. It’s possible the women with the punk had been trying to get rid of him. But no matter what they did or said to discourage him, he still wouldn’t leave them alone. To casual observers it just looks like a group of people happily socializing, but the women are really fed up with the loser. So another guy eventually comes into the bar, and naturally the women start giving that New Guy their attention. This attention to New Guy is partly meant to emphasize again to Mr. Undesirable Jerk Guy that he’s really NOT desirable. It’s a case of I’m-specifically-flirting-with-New-Guy-in-order-to make-it-crystal-clear-to-you-that-YOU-HAVE-NO-CHANCE-IN-HELL! But Jerk Guy is just too stupid to accept reality. He sees these women (erm, make that HIS women) giving their attention to New Guy and thinks New Guy is intentionally messing up his game-plan. So Jerk Guy goes over to confront New Guy. New Guy pushes Jerk Guy across the room. The women are relieved, and grateful, of course. And they now want to hang out with the New Guy, of course. I’ve occasionally had guys intervene to help get a clueless Jerk Guy out of my face. And I hung onto the new guy too. In fact, there was no way I was going to let him get away after that. But I didn’t want to have sex with him, I just wanted him to keep as a shield for a little while longer. And I also wanted to thank him, and maybe have some interesting conversation. Of course that’s not to say these particular women didn’t want to have sex with New Guy. Heck, they probably did. BTW the extra bragging didn’t bother me at all. I’ve often pushed rude guys out of my personal space, and only wished I could have shoved them across the room with one hand. And just when did 37 get to be old? Uh-oh. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/238 "2010-05-21T20:42:56Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > My sarcastic meter is reading: “Not sure if sarcastic?” No sarcasm, I really thought it was funny. ---
**Author:** ![emcee2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@emcee2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emcee2k)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/239 "2010-05-21T21:26:34Z")
> [@Ibanez](#): > > These same people would probably just watch while an old lady struggles with a crackhead trying to steal her purse while she gets knocked to the ground . But say well at least I called 911, alot good that did for the old lady with the broken hip. Just so were clear, you’re saying that in your mind not walking away from an idiot in a bar is equivalent letting a crackhead assault an old lady, correct? ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2010, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/240 "2010-05-22T04:48:10Z")
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