# I cannot believe you are actually making a 37 year old man on a business trip kick your ass. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 16, 2010, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625 "2010-05-16T09:14:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/141 "2010-05-18T03:35:46Z")
> [@MTCicero](#): > > Oh, for fuck’s sake. You sound like Jim Stark in **Rebel Without a Cause**. > > “Is that meaning me? _Is that meaning me?_” I don’t know **Rebel Without a Cause** but the “Is that meaning me? _Is that meaning me?_” sounds extremely immature. An immature response is not what I was going for. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/142 "2010-05-18T03:39:42Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > Really? Tell me more. I, as a chick, “dig” this sort of thing. I was the guy he punched ☹ It made me sad ☹ (you can tell by the upside down smileys). Please put my name betwixt multiple parentheses in classic sad-sack-loving SDMB fashion ☹ ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/143 "2010-05-18T03:39:43Z")
> [@Martini\_Enfield](#): > > And why should I be worried about startling or offending Americans with my casual profanity anyway? 😛 Well, we’ve got rather a large stock of nuclear weapons, for one thing. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/144 "2010-05-18T03:42:59Z")
> [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > Well, not to brag or anything, but I’m easily one of the 500 million strongest persons on Earth. Yeah? Well, you show up to mess with me, you’d best bring the other 499,999,999 with you. ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/145 "2010-05-18T03:51:08Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Please put my name betwixt multiple parentheses in classic sad-sack-loving SDMB fashion ☹ You gotta be in \*\*MPSIMS \*\*for this to work, dude. Here in the **Pit** , you’ll only find hate, more hate, and some guy who wants to fuck your mother when she dies. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/146 "2010-05-18T03:59:46Z")
> [@ToeJam](#): > > You gotta be in \*\*MPSIMS \*\*for this to work, dude. Here in the **Pit** , you’ll only find hate, more hate, and some guy who wants to fuck your mother when she dies. Yeah, that’s why I like it here. Also, I’ve got a pretty terrible batting average with mom jokes and dead mothers. Word to the wise–if I ever say anything about fucking your mother, you’d better call that skank and make sure she’s alright (or call her pimp if her phone got cut off again) ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/147 "2010-05-18T04:10:16Z")
((((Rand Rover)))) ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/148 "2010-05-18T04:13:37Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > If it enrages him, too bad. The point is that you don’t respond to mere words or gestures with violence. If the other guy loses it and starts swinging, THEN it’s ok to defend yourself with whatever amount of force is needed. > > Whether or not it’s ok to taunt someone who clearly has problems with self-control, in order to entice them to get violent, and therefor kick their ass in self-defense, well, that’s another thread. Oh, and whether laughing at them is taunting them is still ANOTHER thread. The thing is, usually the person who throws the first punch already wins. You already have an advantage of knowing when you are going to start it, and, if you know anything at all about fighting, you’ve already dealt a pretty substantial blow. Plus, once you’re already angry, it’s much easier to take a hit–you barely feel it. And, honestly, I reject that there is some bright line that cannot be crossed. Laughing in someones face is already over the beginning of the line. What I actually propose is that the legal bright line pulled back a bit. Where it is right now is basically saying we’re okay with people being assholes. There’s no reason for anybody not to walk straight up to the line. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/149 "2010-05-18T05:11:10Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Where it is right now is basically saying we’re okay with people being assholes. There’s no reason for anybody not to walk straight up to the line. That was actually close to my original point, that the wimped out society we currently have just encourages some people to become assholes, and current assholes to just get worse. I wasn’t recommending throwing the first punch tho. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/150 "2010-05-18T05:25:35Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Where it is right now is basically saying we’re okay with people being assholes. Well, not really. All it says is that we don’t consider someone being an asshole a sufficient justification for initiating physical violence. And that’s fine by me. > [@BigT](#): > > Laughing in someones face is already over the beginning of the line. Over what line? Over the line of being an asshole? Absolutely. Over the line of actually starting a fistfight? No. If I saw a guy in a bar punch another guy for laughing at him, even for laughing at him in a deliberately nasty and assholish way, I would not be thinking “Oh good, that asshole got what was coming to him, three cheers for the guy who punched him”. I’d be thinking “Holy shit, that’s one violent crazy goon over there physically attacking someone for laughing at him, maybe time to leave”. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/151 "2010-05-18T10:01:02Z")
Buncha fucking savages. Beasts - the OP and all his silverback supporters. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/152 "2010-05-18T10:12:43Z")
This is a horrible thread. It leaves a bad taste in my brain. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/153 "2010-05-18T10:35:25Z")
> [@MTCicero](#): > > Oh, for fuck’s sake. You sound like Jim Stark in **Rebel Without a Cause**. I was thinking more Marty McFly. I’ve no reason to believe the events described in the OP didn’t happen in some form and I’ve no issues with someone on a business trip having a drink at the hotel bar (because that’s what you do on business trips). However, the thread title alone moves this from “Let me tell you about this thing that happened to me” to “Let me tell you how awesome I am, no really I am”. Which, on the Internet, automatically draws derision no matter what messageboard you’re on. I’m surprised we haven’t had a “pics or it didn’t happen” post somewhere along the line. If this had just been a minor rant along the lines of “Stop bothering me when I’m drinking, loser boy” it probably would have gone down much better. The OP needs to work a lot more at the whole self-deprecation thing. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/154 "2010-05-18T10:43:51Z")
I once shot a man in Reno just to see him die. Frankly, it wasn’t worth the trip. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/155 "2010-05-18T18:17:40Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > I can’t be the only one who keeps reading **msmith537** ’s username as **“Ms. Mith”** I made the same mistake–I thought the OP was female as well. Apparently we’re supposed to pay closer attention to the 60,000 people who post here. :rolleyes: ETA: Now that I know what goes on in hotel bars, I see no reason to change my habit and frequent them. I may miss some drama, but I’ll take my chances. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/156 "2010-05-18T18:18:45Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Buncha fucking savages. Beasts - the OP and all his silverback supporters. Don’t make us go all apeshit on your ass… ---
**Author:** ![SmellMyWort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SmellMyWort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmellMyWort)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/157 "2010-05-18T19:02:42Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > I was the guy he punched ☹ It made me sad ☹ (you can tell by the upside down smileys). > > Please put my name betwixt multiple parentheses in classic sad-sack-loving SDMB fashion ☹ Careful, a hug in The Pit is probably of the Trojan variety, ending with an atomic wedgie. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/158 "2010-05-18T20:21:52Z")
I’d relate my own story from this past weekend but I’ve got a couple of stolen ladies in their mid thirties that need my attention… ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/159 "2010-05-18T20:34:56Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Don’t make us go all apeshit on your ass… Woo, I’m so scared:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cannot-believe-you-are-actually-making-a-37-year-old-man-on-a-business-trip-kick-your-ass/539625/160 "2010-05-18T20:39:56Z")
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