# I can't believe Fox News passes this bullshit off as truth **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 28, 2007, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-believe-fox-news-passes-this-bullshit-off-as-truth/409733 "2007-06-28T04:53:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![AWB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@AWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AWB)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2007, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-believe-fox-news-passes-this-bullshit-off-as-truth/409733/21 "2007-06-28T16:35:26Z")
I’ve also heard tell of heterosexual gangs. Better lock up any straights too. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![usar\_jag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f0a364/32.png) [@usar\_jag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/usar_jag)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2007, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-believe-fox-news-passes-this-bullshit-off-as-truth/409733/22 "2007-06-28T16:47:11Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] Actually, it kinda sounds like the Army. [/QUOTE] [MPFC]As an Army officer, I abhor the implication that the U.S. Army is a haven for lesbianism. It is well known that we have the problem relatively under control, and that it is the U.S. Air Force who now suffer the largest problems in this area.[/MPFC] ---
**Author:** ![Sunrazor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sunrazor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunrazor)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2007, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-believe-fox-news-passes-this-bullshit-off-as-truth/409733/23 "2007-06-28T16:48:19Z")
[QUOTE=CanvasShoes] The claims weren’t made by fox news, and nowhere do they state “this is the truth”, (at least from the linked video you provided), they were made by this detective, (based upon the transcript, he didn’t seem all that educated). There was no indication in the youtube video that the gangs they showed were fighting over men, or what their sexual orientation was. \ I just see “news source said/opposing news source said” here. And more or less the same thing that one sees regarding “regular gangs”. Looks like someone just used the “gay” hook for this story. [/QUOTE] I see your point, but as a long-time journalist, I have a serious beef about this kind of stenotyping being called “news.” If Fox were at all interested in real reporting, they would have dug into the story and found out whether one of their sources was lying. It’s called gatekeeping, and it’s supposed to be a primary mission of journalism. And yes, Fox passes itself off as a practitioner of journalism. So yes, Fox failed spectacularly (as it always does) in its pretense at journalism, though it no doubt succeeded just as brilliantly in its primary mission, which is to make Rupert Murdoch wealthier each day than he has ever been before. ---
**Author:** ![Sunrazor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sunrazor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunrazor)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2007, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-believe-fox-news-passes-this-bullshit-off-as-truth/409733/24 "2007-06-28T17:00:51Z")
Wait a minute! Isn’t this the pit?! Where’s the venom, the bile, the raging hatred?! Fox sucks! There, now I feel so much better. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2007, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-believe-fox-news-passes-this-bullshit-off-as-truth/409733/25 "2007-06-28T17:17:49Z")
[QUOTE=AWB] I’ve also heard tell of heterosexual gangs. Better lock up any straights too. :rolleyes: [/QUOTE] Right, because people have been screaming “Lock up all gays!” all _through_ this thread. :rolleyes:[sup]3[/sup] ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2007, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-believe-fox-news-passes-this-bullshit-off-as-truth/409733/26 "2007-06-28T17:37:18Z")
[QUOTE=Malacandra] . :rolleyes:[sup]3[/sup] [/QUOTE] What happened to your ear? ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2007, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-believe-fox-news-passes-this-bullshit-off-as-truth/409733/27 "2007-06-28T17:45:03Z")
[QUOTE=saoirse] What happened to your ear? [/QUOTE] Eh? Speak up! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2007, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-believe-fox-news-passes-this-bullshit-off-as-truth/409733/28 "2007-06-28T18:20:22Z")
A cubic rolleye? To the third power? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2007, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-believe-fox-news-passes-this-bullshit-off-as-truth/409733/29 "2007-06-28T18:27:14Z")
[QUOTE=usar\_jag] [MPFC]As an Army officer, I abhor the implication that the U.S. Army is a haven for lesbianism. It is well known that we have the problem relatively under control, and that it is the U.S. Air Force who now suffer the largest problems in this area.[/MPFC] [/QUOTE] Yes, but what about the cannibalism? ---
**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2007, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-believe-fox-news-passes-this-bullshit-off-as-truth/409733/30 "2007-06-28T19:37:36Z")
[QUOTE=Miller] Yes, but what about the cannibalism? [/QUOTE] Marines, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2007, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-believe-fox-news-passes-this-bullshit-off-as-truth/409733/31 "2007-06-28T19:42:37Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] A cubic rolleye? To the third power? [/QUOTE] Sometimes a mere 3d rolleye isn’t enough to address someone’s arrant idiocy 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2007, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-believe-fox-news-passes-this-bullshit-off-as-truth/409733/32 "2007-06-28T19:58:13Z")
[QUOTE=Malacandra] Sometimes a mere 3d rolleye isn’t enough to address someone’s arrant idiocy 🙂 [/QUOTE] The Third Rolleye indicates enlightened sarcasm. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2007, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-believe-fox-news-passes-this-bullshit-off-as-truth/409733/33 "2007-06-28T21:12:01Z")
[QUOTE=saoirse] :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: [/QUOTE] It’s the holy trinity of sarcasm. “In nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti…” ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2007, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-believe-fox-news-passes-this-bullshit-off-as-truth/409733/34 "2007-06-28T21:50:08Z")
[QUOTE=saoirse] The Third Rolleye indicates enlightened sarcasm. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: [/QUOTE] Brought to you by that great late-1990s pop group, Third Rolleye Blind. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2007, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-believe-fox-news-passes-this-bullshit-off-as-truth/409733/35 "2007-06-28T21:51:21Z")
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] Lesbians with guns… sounds hot. [/QUOTE] _Stand tall, don’t think small…_ ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2007, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-believe-fox-news-passes-this-bullshit-off-as-truth/409733/36 "2007-06-28T22:07:40Z")
[QUOTE=saoirse] The Third Rolleye indicates enlightened sarcasm. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: [/QUOTE] The rolleye in the pyramid? ---
**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2007, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-believe-fox-news-passes-this-bullshit-off-as-truth/409733/37 "2007-06-28T22:13:12Z")
Them dykes in the video were hot. ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2007, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-believe-fox-news-passes-this-bullshit-off-as-truth/409733/38 "2007-06-29T00:46:10Z")
[QUOTE=kimera] Yes they were. Bill said that it was a lesbian gang who attacked the man when any news source shows that it wasn’t a gang-related thing. He also said that there was a Gays Taking Over and a Dykes Taking Over gang that were involved in illegal activities. The only references I could find to these supposed activities were all linked back to Fox News. That’s just in the first minute. Do I need to give you the claims case by case? [/QUOTE] According to YOUR links, it was Detective Wheeler who made those claims, not Bill O’Reilly. And nowhere in the transcript or video link provided by you, is Fox News or Bill O’Reilly shown as saying this is “the truth”. I can get your outrage over the idiocy of this Wheeler guy (there’s no way to tell if HE is telling the truth or just making it up from your links all we have to go on is his word as a detective supposedly in law enforcement where these GTO and DTO gangs exist), obviously not the brightest bulb in the marquee and possibly the black equivelant of a redneck “them homosexshuals” kinda person, but your title and accusation are misleading and accuse the wrong party. I don’t watch Fox, but from what I can see here, they’re sticking to their motto of “we report, you decide”. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2007, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-believe-fox-news-passes-this-bullshit-off-as-truth/409733/39 "2007-06-29T02:35:21Z")
> [@](#): > > According to YOUR links, it was Detective Wheeler who made those claims, not Bill O’Reilly. And nowhere in the transcript or video link provided by you, is Fox News or Bill O’Reilly shown as saying this is “the truth”. Uh, Wheeler represents FOX, please see: > [@Bill O'Reilly](#): > > Joining us now from Washington, FOX News crime analyst Rod Wheeler. . If Fox weren’t claiming responsibility for this piece of shit, then don’t fucking call him “their” analyst. As for Billy Boy, > [@O'REILLY](#): > > Now, when they recruit the kids, are they indoctrinating them into homosexuality? This is the kind of shit which infuriates me to no end. ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2007, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-believe-fox-news-passes-this-bullshit-off-as-truth/409733/40 "2007-06-29T02:43:56Z")
[QUOTE=TokyoPlayer] Uh, Wheeler represents FOX, please see: . If Fox weren’t claiming responsibility for this piece of shit, then don’t fucking call him “their” analyst. As for Billy Boy, This is the kind of shit which infuriates me to no end. [/QUOTE] Aha! Nope, I missed that part, I could have sworn they called him Detective Wheeler from some police department or another, and I read the darn thing three times. As for O’Reilly like I said in my first post, I can’t stand him. As far as his take on sex, of any sort? imNSho, he’s a hypocrite who has no right to make any judgements or give advice regarding sex. It irritated the hell out of me when in one of his books he had a chapter on being sexually responsible that was aimed at teens, (or preteens). Yeah, like he’s a good example. Personally I don’t find that any news sources on TV do a fair job of reporting news, it’s all “he said/they said” regardless of which network does it. I find more news here, than tv news (via links from other dopers etc). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-believe-fox-news-passes-this-bullshit-off-as-truth/409733.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-believe-fox-news-passes-this-bullshit-off-as-truth/409733.md?page=3)