# I can't wait to graduate! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 9, 2000, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-wait-to-graduate/4709 "2000-03-09T23:02:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-wait-to-graduate/4709/21 "2000-03-10T06:36:00Z")
dansir, My gut reaction was to get rude with you, but I bit my tongue because you probably don’t deserve it. However, let me state that I thought you were doing very well in your post, raising some very valid points–UNTIL you started quoting the bible. I can only speak for myself when I say that I am not offended by the bible because it represents religion or god’s word or whatever you want think it is. It offends me because many seemingly intelligent people cannot make a point without using it as a crutch for what they’re saying. Like I said…this is just one shmuck’s opinion here, but tell me what YOU think. Don’t read the bible to me. ---
**Author:** ![John\_John](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@John\_John](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_John)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-wait-to-graduate/4709/22 "2000-03-10T12:50:00Z")
Tired tom > [@](#): > > Sandycane, the issues surrounding John John are that he has posted to various SDMB boards for a little over two years, getting into fights and being disruptive on several occasions This old peahen, tom, keeps trotting this lame nonesense out all the time, boring, but never has any supporting evidence, except the cackle of his “friends.” The old peahen is not content unless he has some “board issue” to carp about. What an old lady! My advice to you, Sandy, is that you discontinue any form of response to this trouble maker, tom. When he is not twisting what you’re saying he is morlaizing about your views. You do not have to defend yourself to him on any issue. He, as you will soon notice, just sits back and passes judgement on everyone else posts. He is, in effect, the board pseudo-moralist. Tom, where is your pic? Come out of hiding. * * * Pas grande chose. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-wait-to-graduate/4709/23 "2000-03-10T13:14:00Z")
John, I do not need to validate my existence by displaying my photos and personal information all over the internet. I am not hiding, I simply prefer to maintain my privacy. (Besides, if the marshalls found out I was posting _this_ much it would jeopardize my status in the program.) I am not interested in _your_ personal life, either. However, you continue to post the lie that you are not the same person who posted as Cyberian54 and Optamissed on AOL, and it happens that your pathetic need for validation has caused you to publicly post nearly identical information about yourself in several guises. That is not my problem. You have very clearly identified yourself as the same person through your posting style. (A serious inability to read with comprehension would, of course, prevent you from being aware of this.) Since I have posted with exactly one sign-on in every MB and NG for well over two years, there is no issue rgarding who I might be. Since I am not in the habit of posting for the specific purpose of insulting people, denigrating their beliefs, or arguing to deny them consideration as humans, I have no need to run from one false identity to another. * * * Tom~ ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-wait-to-graduate/4709/24 "2000-03-10T13:31:00Z")
Sandy, God would not have stopped the bullets. one small point about the NRA. Marlyn Manson cancelled his Show in Denver out of respect for the Tradegy. The NRA held their AGM in Denver. Nah, the Unstable Kids with Firearms didnt kill the kids. it was the fact that the kids didnt6 pray in the classroom. I’m standing with Kelli on this one. * * * well, at least one person wants to meet me… [http://fathom.org/polldata/pollcheck.adp?poll=dope-page5&question=62](http://fathom.org/polldata/pollcheck.adp?poll=dope-page5&question=62) Cheers!! ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-wait-to-graduate/4709/25 "2000-03-10T14:10:00Z")
_Here’s_ an ugly thought. Refer back to the picture of JohnJohn-Cyb. Now try to picture him in a cheerleader’s outfit. Now either wash off your keyboard, or buy a new one! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-wait-to-graduate/4709/26 "2000-03-10T14:53:00Z")
\*\*“Sandy” \*\* stated: > [@](#): > > Nice to meet you \*\*Sandy \*\* and I’m sorry that I said about the meds. WTF is up with that?!?!?! ## Oh, and thanks a lot Slythe. It isn’t my keyboard I am worried about, it’s the image in my head that I won’t ever be able to scrub out. You turn me on. But maybe it’s because I just spent 20 years in the jungle, getting it on with anything I could attract with a piece of fruit. ---
**Author:** ![Nurlman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Nurlman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nurlman)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-wait-to-graduate/4709/27 "2000-03-10T16:05:00Z")
Congratulations, Tom, You’re our next contestant on “Spot the Sock Puppet!” And your opener in Round One is from page 5 of [http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000676-5.html](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000676-5.html) > [@](#): > > By SandyCane: > \*\*Did you guys see it? Hillary! has done plenty. \*\* > > and > > \*\* …before I’d vote for Hillary! “The huge lyin’ bitch ass Clinton”!\*\* > > and in another post on that page, > > **I know how Hillary!'s ass got to be sooooooo big.** > > and > > **She goes on and on about the wonderful Hillary! and can’t come up with a single thing…** AND > [@](#): > > By JohnJohn: > > **Hillary! has a fat?- COMMODITY ACCOUNT!** Now, Tom, for $100, after reviewing these posts, do you: (A) See nothing remarkable at all. (B) Wonder what the numerical value of Hillary factorial is? © See that the odd stylistic choice by JohnJohn to put an exclamation point after Hillary’s name is strong evidence that he is a sock puppeteer. You have 30 seconds… ---
**Author:** ![ReservoirDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8edcca/32.png) [@ReservoirDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ReservoirDog)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-wait-to-graduate/4709/28 "2000-03-10T16:05:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by Sandycane: > \*\*That was the best post I have read from you, Tom. \*\* “She” says this as if “she’s” been around for a long time. Funny then, how “she” doesn’t seem to have ever heard of Uncle Beer. And then “she” claims ignorance of the whole John fiasco: > [@](#): > > I don’t get it? Is it because of what John did? No one ever told me what he did that was so wrong. Seems to me anyone who has read anything for any length of time around here would know better. Get a life, you fucking loser. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-wait-to-graduate/4709/29 "2000-03-10T16:50:00Z")
**Tom** : > [@](#): > > (Besides, if the marshalls found out I was posting this much it would jeopardize my status in the program.) 😃 **Diane** : > [@](#): > > “Sandy” stated: > > ``` > quote: > > **Nice to meet you Sandy and I'm sorry that I said about the meds.** > > ``` > > WTF is up with that?!?!?! From reading her post, it seems she was trying to say something like: > [@](#): > > Nice to meet you, > > Sandy > > PS: I’m sorry about gratuitously insulting you. It all just ran together. No biggie. **ResDog** : > [@](#): > > “She” says this [referring to **tomndeb** as if “she’s” been around for a long time. Funny then, how “she” doesn’t seem to have ever heard of Uncle Beer. And then “she” claims ignorance of the whole John fiasco . . . > Seems to me anyone who has read anything for any length of time around here would know better. **Sandycane** interacted with Tom in the “I’m obsessed with the size of Hillary’s ass” thread. **Uncle Beer** did _NOT_ participate in that thread. -andros- (JohnJohn has a huge ass) ---
**Author:** ![dansir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@dansir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dansir)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-wait-to-graduate/4709/30 "2000-03-10T16:53:00Z")
Mouth, Thank you for not getting rude with me, I do have a heart and as stupid as it may sound, it hurts when people personally attack me. Sorry about the Bible quote didnt mean to offend you. My point was that the Bible is a good parenting Book. I do believe in God, I do believe in teaching My kids the Bible, and WE go to church. Do I think That this is the answer to all of the worlds problems…maybe not but I dont see where it hurts. Raising two kids myself, it is very hard. They come to a point where they think for themselves and parents are totally not cool. I know being a kid myself long ago. But I always respected one of my family members very much, my grandfather who is a preacher. He and God kept me out of trouble. My point is kids need something whether a strong family unit or a Higher authoritive figure who they care enough to do what is right. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-wait-to-graduate/4709/31 "2000-03-10T16:55:00Z")
**Nurlman** , as noted above, I am simply not eager, in my normal posting, to yell troll! or sock puppet! too hastily. I am not denying the likelihood, I simply do not choose to jump on the issue. In reference to the points brought up this morning, for example: The exclamation point is part of Ms. Clinton’s campaign signature and it has been commented upon in the national media. “Nice to meet you Sandy.” could easily be a simple case of an omitted comma in a self-referential introduction. The “meds” comment is in reference to a remark that Sandycane made to me in John’s Hillary! thread. At this point, I am not willing to condemn on this level of circumstantial evidence. It is not going to harm me to have been consevatively in error, so I do not feel a need to arrive at a conclusion immediately. ## (Cyberian54/Optamissed/JohnJohn, of course, is a different matter as I have had the ugliness of his personality thrust onto my screen for two years. I have _already_ been cautious and there has not been any possibility of error for a long time.) Tom~ ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-wait-to-graduate/4709/32 "2000-03-10T17:25:00Z")
> [@](#): > > This old peahen, tom, keeps trotting this lame nonesense out all the time, boring, but never has any supporting evidence, except the cackle of his “friends.” Well, since you have insisted so nicely, here is an example of what has endeared you to so many people, John. On the other thread I mentioned your habit of insulting people for being “gay” or “Jewish” (I could have added “attacking them without provocation” but we’ll see how this plays out). The following is taken from the old AOL/SDMB. The scene is Christmas Day. One thread has been started for the specific purpose of wishing each other well. jon/ **BeLogical** (who had, occasionally, challenged various Christian beliefs from a logical perspective) mentioned having to work, Cyb responded by mocking Jon’s name and claiming that Jon was Jewish. > [@](#): > > **Subject: Re: Merry Christmas > Date: 12/25/97 10:09 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: Cyberian54 > Message-id: \<[19971226030900.WAA24714@ladder02.news.aol.com](mailto:19971226030900.WAA24714@ladder02.news.aol.com)\>** > > Triple humbug. > > I’m at work. Feh. > > . > > Then again, making 50 bucks an hour sitting on my butt ain’t so bad… > ~jon > \*\*Jon, gee there’s that cute name again, I work on Yom Kippur & Roshashana so it’s only fair you work on Christmas getting time and a half. > > J~\*\* Melis Challenged Cyb on his insult: > [@](#): > > **Subject: Re: Merry Christmas > Date: 12/25/97 10:54 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: Kiltgrrrrl > Message-id: \<[19971226035400.WAA28743@ladder02.news.aol.com](mailto:19971226035400.WAA28743@ladder02.news.aol.com)\>** > :::copy & pasted messages snipped::: > okie… I’m POd. > > 1-- Jon’s name is really cool. > > 2-- Are you Jewish? If not, then you wouldn’t observe those holidays. So why would you have a problem with working them? Most businesses have no problems with giving you time off for religious observances. > > Melis Cyb replied (with typical aplomb) > [@](#): > > **Subject: Re: Merry Christmas > Date: 12/25/97 11:17 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: Cyberian54 > Message-id: \<[19971226041701.XAA03554@ladder01.news.aol.com](mailto:19971226041701.XAA03554@ladder01.news.aol.com)\>** > > 2-- Are you Jewish? If not, then you wouldn’t observe those holidays. So why would you have a problem with working them? Most businesses have no problems with giving you time off for religious observances. > > 3-- Get a clue on the quote. > \*\*Who needs the clue here? Why is he carping about working Christmas? > > J~\*\* **Batgrrrl** responded that Jon might like to spend the day with his family, to which Cyb replied: > [@](#): > > **Subject: Re: Merry Christmas > Date: 12/26/97 10:05 AM Eastern Standard Time > From: Cyberian54 > Message-id: \<[19971226150501.KAA03158@ladder01.news.aol.com](mailto:19971226150501.KAA03158@ladder01.news.aol.com)\>** > > And maybe because Jon would have prefered to spend Christmas with his family rather than working… > \*\*Jon, real cute little namey pooh, is a Hannukkah celibrant. Why do you assume he celibrates Christmas? On the MB people slam Jesus and Christians then pretend they are Christians. Nice try. Do you EVER see Jews slaming their religion? Of course not, and they shouldn’t. How much credence do you think a person would have if they came on the MB and slammed Moses and Jews and they try to hide behind the fact they were Jewish? Normal people, you seemed > not be, would see right through that. > > J~\*\* Jon posted again. pointing out that he was not Jewish. > [@](#): > > **Subject: Re: Merry Christmas > Date: 12/26/97 12:03 AM Eastern Standard Time > From: Be Logical > Message-id: \<[19971226050301.AAA05202@ladder02.news.aol.com](mailto:19971226050301.AAA05202@ladder02.news.aol.com)\>** > **\>Jon, gee there’s that cute name again, I work on Yom Kippur & > \>Roshashana so it’s only fair you work on Christmas getting time > \>and a half.** > > Why’s that make it even? Are you Jewish? I’m not. > > ~jon To which Cyb replied: > [@](#): > > **Subject: Re: Merry Christmas > Date: 12/26/97 10:12 AM Eastern Standard Time > From: Cyberian54 > Message-id: \<[19971226151201.KAA01115@ladder02.news.aol.com](mailto:19971226151201.KAA01115@ladder02.news.aol.com)\>** > ::: copy and paste snipped::: > > \*\*Jon Jon, cutesy pooh name, don’t even try that BS. Now you are denying your heritage? You are without conscience. > > J~\*\* Ian and Cyb then exchanged a few barbs with Ian refering to his own Christianity and the shame it brings him to have Cyb associated with Christianity, to which Cyb replies: > [@](#): > > \*\* Subject: Re: Merry Christmas > Date: 12/26/97 1:10 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: Cyberian54 > Message-id: \<[19971226181001.NAA14641@ladder02.news.aol.com](mailto:19971226181001.NAA14641@ladder02.news.aol.com)\>\*\* > > \*\* You need to get your head out of the sand. Because he says he does? How about a nice bridge in Brooklyn? I can get it for you at a real low price. I judge him by his Christian slander and lack of humor. If Jon, such a cute moniker, apologizes for slaming Christians I’ll leave him alone. Let little Jon Jon fight his own battles instead of hiding behind your skirt. > > J~\*\* > > Well, I’m a Christian, and I’m ashamed of Christianity for promoting views that lead to people like you. Jon is well able to fight his own battles, but, as he said, he’s working. But, when you say something stupid, wrong, and asinine, it’s everyone’s duty to battle with you, not just the person you decide to go after. Your offer to ‘leave him alone’ amuses me, though. Do you really think you’re the bully in this battle? You seriously can think > that you’re a threat to anyone on this board, and can’t truly hope to pose any threat to Jon, or me, or the many people on this board who tower over you intellectually as you punch at their kneecaps. Now, run along and play, child, and we’ll discuss this when your mommy gets home. > > _They called her “Gonk”! > IIII_ > But her real name was Nadine. > > **Gonk Girl, . . . I don’t care to hear your whineing about your girlfiend JON. Both of you should be ashamed. Shouldn’t you be therapy at this hour? Time for your medication. > I really don’t care to hear about your filthy views. > J~** Cyb also went on for the hat trick, attacking Melis/ **Kiltgrrrrl** and **Batgrrrl** , with lewd comments, but I think I’ve C&P’d enough of the sort of thing that Cyb did to endear himself to us all. (Merry Christmas, indeed.) Attempting to insult people for being Jewish (even when they are not). Attempting to insult people for being gay (even when they are not). Launching personal attacks on women who have not actually _attacked_ him. 3 for 3. * * * Tom~ ---
**Author:** ![Sandycane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Sandycane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sandycane)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2000, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-wait-to-graduate/4709/33 "2000-03-11T00:02:00Z")
Tom, I don’t understand what you mean by a two digit range. We don’t have a large minority population in our school. It is only about 20%. Still, that is enough to cause too many problems. We have kids that are rednecks and kids that are proud of being black. If you put two people like in a room with nobody else you would have problems. The gangs aren’t like the gangs in big cities but the kids in the gangs from the big cities came out here and recruited. As least that is what I’m told. They aren’t allowed to wear their colors, but they still make sign motions with their hands and talk big about being in the gangs, maybe they’re making it up. I would be happy if they were, but I am not about to check them out by following them around to see if they are lying or not. Keeping your distance from them is the best way to stay out of trouble. I am sorry to hear this about John John, but what I saw the others do to him was MUCH worse in my mind. You seem like a nice man, but I don’t want to get in the middle of this. As far as the things he said, they were three years ago. People do change. He has been nice to me and until that changes I will be nice to him, same goes for everyone. I am sorry that others aren’t more openminded about this but evereyone is free to so as they like, it’s a free country. Thank you for explaining to me why people thought I was him. It makes a lot more sense now, and so do you. Andros was right and so were you about my missed comma. ---
**Author:** ![Sandycane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Sandycane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sandycane)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2000, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-wait-to-graduate/4709/34 "2000-03-11T00:07:00Z")
John John, like I told Tom, I don’t want to get in the middle of this. He has been nice to me and until that changes I will be nice to him. I will answer your e-mail this weekend. I hope you’re not mad at me. Sandy ---
**Author:** ![Sandycane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Sandycane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sandycane)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2000, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-wait-to-graduate/4709/35 "2000-03-11T00:09:00Z")
slythe, that wasn’t very nice, but it was funny. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2000, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-wait-to-graduate/4709/36 "2000-03-11T00:19:00Z")
Sandy - I’m hoping you saw my question about your favorite talk backs. What are they? Also, do you like wild dogs or wild cats better? - Rick ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2000, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-wait-to-graduate/4709/37 "2000-03-11T00:28:00Z")
> [@](#): > > John John, like I told Tom, I don’t want to get in the middle of this. He has been nice to me and until that changes I will be nice to him. I will answer your e-mail this weekend. I hope you’re not mad at me. Sandy Christ on a crutch, John. \*\*\*\* off and die, would you? How incredibly twisted and small your life is. (Rather like your penis, I imagine.) * * * [**StoryTyler**](http://sites.netscape.net/storytyler/homepage) “Not everybody does it, but everybody should.” ---
**Author:** ![Dirty\_Devil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Dirty\_Devil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dirty_Devil)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2000, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-wait-to-graduate/4709/38 "2000-03-11T00:39:00Z")
“Sandy”, how long have you been lurking? How many other threads not related to John John have you posted to (besides this charming little thread that you opened)? Do you ever plan on going anywhere outside of the Pit? It isn’t too common for someone new to start in the Pit and stay in the Pit, especially if they don’t have anything particularly bad to say. How long are you going to follow John John around and compliment him on everything that he says? How long are you going to pretend to be in highschool? You sound like a 60 year old man trying his best to act like what a 17 year old girl would act like. It’s really rather pathetic. Who do you _really_ think you’re fooling? ---
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2000, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-wait-to-graduate/4709/39 "2000-03-11T03:29:00Z")
I just hope he washes the sock when he is done with her. * * * You turn me on. But maybe it’s because I just spent 20 years in the jungle, getting it on with anything I could attract with a piece of fruit. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2000, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-wait-to-graduate/4709/40 "2000-03-11T05:28:00Z")
Just out of curiosity, **Sandycane** , are you in Richmond, OH or Richmond Hills, OH? Which HS do you go to? * * * Tom~ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-wait-to-graduate/4709.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-cant-wait-to-graduate/4709.md?page=3)