# I challenge the Dope to answer this poll with the required percentages

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-challenge-the-dope-to-answer-this-poll-with-the-required-percentages/649534>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [February 7, 2013, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-challenge-the-dope-to-answer-this-poll-with-the-required-percentages/649534 "2013-02-07T01:20:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-challenge-the-dope-to-answer-this-poll-with-the-required-percentages/649534/41 "2013-02-08T01:41:50Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> This thread may be the best example in history of why anarchism is unworkable.

It’s like we’ve created a less productive version of the tragedy of the commons.

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**Author:** ![Kaio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c68b51/32.png) [@Kaio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaio)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-challenge-the-dope-to-answer-this-poll-with-the-required-percentages/649534/42 "2013-02-08T07:27:56Z")

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HA! I voted for 10% and got it to land at _[exactly 10%!](http://imgur.com/sWone6T)_

What do I win? 😃

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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-challenge-the-dope-to-answer-this-poll-with-the-required-percentages/649534/43 "2013-02-08T08:13:32Z")

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I see that as things stand, our next possible “win point” is at 280.

I voted 50%

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-challenge-the-dope-to-answer-this-poll-with-the-required-percentages/649534/44 "2013-02-08T14:02:44Z")

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I was shocked at how close we were until I realized not everyone was voting blind like I did.

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-challenge-the-dope-to-answer-this-poll-with-the-required-percentages/649534/45 "2013-02-08T16:41:58Z")

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It would be interesting to see how close you can get with blind voting.

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**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-challenge-the-dope-to-answer-this-poll-with-the-required-percentages/649534/46 "2013-02-08T16:44:14Z")

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We’re pretty close now. 🙂

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**Author:** ![panaccione](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@panaccione](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panaccione)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-challenge-the-dope-to-answer-this-poll-with-the-required-percentages/649534/47 "2013-02-08T16:52:23Z")

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I am the 50%

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**Author:** ![ZenBeam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/3ab097/32.png) [@ZenBeam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZenBeam)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-challenge-the-dope-to-answer-this-poll-with-the-required-percentages/649534/48 "2013-02-08T17:57:51Z")

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OK, everyone stand back. I’m going to register 89 sock puppets and get this done.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-challenge-the-dope-to-answer-this-poll-with-the-required-percentages/649534/49 "2013-02-08T23:20:46Z")

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**Sr. Olives** is getting a kick out of this thread. He says that if we run a chi-square analysis on the results, we could not reject the null hypothesis that the numbers match.

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2013, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-challenge-the-dope-to-answer-this-poll-with-the-required-percentages/649534/50 "2013-02-09T00:19:39Z")

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I was Voter #250, and picked 20% since it had a 19.68% share at the time. This was the tally after I voted:

50% 122 48.80%  
**20% 50 20.00%**  
15% 37 14.80%  
**10% 25 10.00%**  
5% 16 6.40%

So 2 out of 5 categories were “perfect” at that point.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2013, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-challenge-the-dope-to-answer-this-poll-with-the-required-percentages/649534/51 "2013-02-09T00:26:45Z")

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How would this be turning out if posters had to vote blind?

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**Author:** ![ZenBeam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/3ab097/32.png) [@ZenBeam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZenBeam)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2013, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-challenge-the-dope-to-answer-this-poll-with-the-required-percentages/649534/52 "2013-02-09T00:54:25Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> How would this be turning out if posters had to vote blind?

There’d be more votes for 5% than for 10%, apparently.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2013, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-challenge-the-dope-to-answer-this-poll-with-the-required-percentages/649534/53 "2013-02-09T03:45:06Z")

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Needed:

To get 10% up to 32 (7 more right now)

15% to 48 (10 more)

20% to 64 (12 more)

50% to 160 (31 more)

NO 5% votes.

We can do this!

No we can’t.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2013, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-challenge-the-dope-to-answer-this-poll-with-the-required-percentages/649534/54 "2013-02-09T13:26:58Z")

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5% is up to 18. **NO ONE VOTE FOR 5%!!!**

So now we need 10% to 36, 15% to 54, 20% to 72, and 50% to 180.

Probably not going to happen.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2013, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-challenge-the-dope-to-answer-this-poll-with-the-required-percentages/649534/55 "2013-02-09T14:01:52Z")

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What we’ve proved is that more than 1 in 20 of us will both assume less that 1 in 20 of us would pick the 5% AND not look at current results before posting.

IOW at least 5% (6.67%?) of us are dumb as rocks. (Oh, okay, the first one is excused.)

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**Author:** ![ZenBeam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/3ab097/32.png) [@ZenBeam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZenBeam)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2013, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-challenge-the-dope-to-answer-this-poll-with-the-required-percentages/649534/56 "2013-02-09T15:22:32Z")

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Now _10%_ is too high as well. I know it doesn’t matter since _5%_ is relatively much more too high, but still…

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**Author:** ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2013, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-challenge-the-dope-to-answer-this-poll-with-the-required-percentages/649534/57 "2013-02-09T15:42:52Z")

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Oh, reading the responses before voting is much less fun. I was all impressed with how close the numbers were but less so now.

BTW, I voted for 5 so um… oops?

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**Author:** ![Hermitian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hermitian/32/470_2.png) [@Hermitian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermitian)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2013, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-challenge-the-dope-to-answer-this-poll-with-the-required-percentages/649534/58 "2013-02-09T16:56:23Z")

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> [@ZenBeam](#):
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> There’d be more votes for 5% than for 10%, apparently.

Everybody thinks they are special.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2013, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-challenge-the-dope-to-answer-this-poll-with-the-required-percentages/649534/59 "2013-02-09T17:30:25Z")

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Just voted for 15%, and brought that up to 14.95%.

I think next vote should be for 20%

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2013, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-challenge-the-dope-to-answer-this-poll-with-the-required-percentages/649534/60 "2013-02-09T17:57:23Z")

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OK, I voted 20%. Doesn’t look like it helped much though.

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