# I could see her underwear - not a good thing. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 12, 2005, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-see-her-underwear-not-a-good-thing/316723 "2005-08-12T14:03:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2005, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-see-her-underwear-not-a-good-thing/316723/21 "2005-08-12T17:29:10Z")
> [@hillbilly queen](#): > > She’s a child but too old to be playing in the \*front \* yard, topless and with transparant panties. umm… **kellner** ’s in Germany… rumor has it they have different nudity taboos over there… ---
**Author:** ![Alias](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a88e4f/32.png) [@Alias](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alias)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2005, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-see-her-underwear-not-a-good-thing/316723/22 "2005-08-12T17:33:56Z")
> [@hillbilly queen](#): > > She’s a child but too old to be playing in the \*front \* yard, topless and with transparant panties. Absolutely. If she’d been three, it would have been different and cute, but ten is too old for that. When I was ten, I was starting to get breasts. ---
**Author:** ![Batsinma\_Belfry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea5d25/32.png) [@Batsinma\_Belfry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batsinma_Belfry)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2005, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-see-her-underwear-not-a-good-thing/316723/23 "2005-08-12T17:57:37Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > umm… **kellner** ’s in Germany… rumor has it they have different nudity taboos over there… I’m sure they do. Most countries are more open minded about nudity than we are. I am far from being a prude, and the same situation, in a rural setting, would probably be okay. But since it was a busy residentual area, and not Germany, not okay. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2005, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-see-her-underwear-not-a-good-thing/316723/24 "2005-08-12T19:06:55Z")
Yeah, I’m chiming in to agree that 10 is way, way, way too old to be playing topless in white panties in the front yard. Nowadays, 10 year olds are starting to get breasts and body hair and all that jazz. Toddler naked in the front yard= adorable Child/Tween naked in the yard= weird ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2005, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-see-her-underwear-not-a-good-thing/316723/25 "2005-08-12T19:49:06Z")
> [@kellner](#): > > It’s always interesting to see those cultural differences. I don’t know what’s so horrible about that - I mean, at the age of 10 she is a child. Maybe if she were, oh, three or four. But at 10 years old, she’s probably already on the road to puberty. I started wearing a bra when I was ten. ---
**Author:** ![Amazon\_Floozy\_Goddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/779978/32.png) [@Amazon\_Floozy\_Goddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amazon_Floozy_Goddess)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2005, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-see-her-underwear-not-a-good-thing/316723/26 "2005-08-12T19:54:59Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > Yeah, I’m chiming in to agree that 10 is way, way, way too old to be playing topless in white panties in the front yard. Nowadays, 10 year olds are starting to get breasts and body hair and all that jazz. > > Toddler naked in the front yard= adorable > Child/Tween naked in the yard= weird Yep, I was already developing at that age…one of my friends was _already_ at least a b-cup. :eek:. The kid really didn’t know any better. The parents had to be pretty stupid to not even realize that she would be a completely easy target for some pedophile across the street. It would be way too easy for some sicko hiding in his house to take a bunch of pictures with a telescopic lens and post them on some child porn site. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2005, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-see-her-underwear-not-a-good-thing/316723/27 "2005-08-12T20:33:47Z")
> [@Padeye](#): > > I fear there is a rather thin line between fiction and reality as I’ve seen the shirt that says porn star. In even more questionable taste: [This](http://www.cafepress.com/wannamakeout.14445613). Who buys these? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2005, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-see-her-underwear-not-a-good-thing/316723/28 "2005-08-12T21:21:01Z")
Why is it assumed that dad dressed the girl? ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2005, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-see-her-underwear-not-a-good-thing/316723/29 "2005-08-12T23:22:06Z")
> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#): > > Why is it assumed that dad dressed the girl? I guess simply because the dad was with the girl? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2005, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-see-her-underwear-not-a-good-thing/316723/30 "2005-08-12T23:31:54Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > I guess simply because the dad was with the girl? Fair enough. It’s possible mom is the blame for the fashion disaster and dad figured it was okay because he didn’t know better. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2005, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-see-her-underwear-not-a-good-thing/316723/31 "2005-08-12T23:45:37Z")
I kind of am with you, actually Mr. Blue Sky, if only because as I said earlier I remember my dad’s taste in dressing me. I’m thinking it was the mom, but that would be assuming stuff about someone who wasn’t even there! I’m thinking it was exactly like \*\*plnnr’s \*\* depiction. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-see-her-underwear-not-a-good-thing/316723/32 "2005-08-13T02:30:12Z")
> [@Larry Mudd](#): > > In even more questionable taste: [This](http://www.cafepress.com/wannamakeout.14445613). > > Who buys these? Britney Spears? ---
**Author:** ![Jillyvn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Jillyvn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jillyvn)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-see-her-underwear-not-a-good-thing/316723/33 "2005-08-13T03:08:29Z")
When I was shopping at Zellers a few weeks ago, I saw a shirt in the juvenile section, size small, clearly for the 12 year old set that said “Your Boyfriend Wants Me” or some such thing. Ugh. Also, am I the only one that would have been teased if I had shown up in high school with my pudge hanging all over my pants and my thong showing? Say what you want about cruel teenage teasing, but as bad as it looks on any girl, it looks way worse when you where the clothes 3 sizes to small so it digs into your flesh and produces flesh handles, no matter how thin you are. I don’t get it. And I don’t get the visable thong thing either. I’m getting old. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-see-her-underwear-not-a-good-thing/316723/34 "2005-08-13T03:13:21Z")
> [@Larry Mudd](#): > > In even more questionable taste: [This](http://www.cafepress.com/wannamakeout.14445613). > > Who buys these? Ok, that’s actually pretty funny. That is something my friend’s and I would buy for each other’s kids…as a joke. Sadly, I’m sure someone buys that shirt seriously. ---
**Author:** ![pinkfreud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pinkfreud/32/17603_2.png) [@pinkfreud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinkfreud)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-see-her-underwear-not-a-good-thing/316723/35 "2005-08-13T03:18:12Z")
A friend of mine is married to a police detective. He once told me that when pedophiles are interviewed, 9 out of 10 of them give some variant of the excuse “Hey, it’s not my fault. The kid seduced me.” I thought of this a few weeks ago when I saw a prepubescent girl strutting through the mall wearing a midriff-revealing tanktop that said BABY SLUT in rhinestones. ---
**Author:** ![Ashes\_Ashes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@Ashes\_Ashes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashes_Ashes)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-see-her-underwear-not-a-good-thing/316723/36 "2005-08-13T03:25:05Z")
My sister has a step-daughter and neither of the girl’s parents have a clue about clothes. To her dad, all clothing looks the same and she will always be five unless my sister points out a problem. To her mom, she is an impossible teenager and it’s pointless to even try to guide her, especially about something as trivial as clothing. My neice is not impossible and very happy to ask for and receive advice from my sister. Even trying her best, my sister just couldn’t keep up with the big changes at the onset of puberty. They only had her half the time and I swear the child grew two feet and gained thirty pounds that first winter. Anything at the house that still fit, didn’t match or looked innappropriate on a girl her age. My most oogy spotting of a sexualized child was the five or six year old girl wearing a baby doll tee (‘Too young for Ashton’) and skin tight low-cut jeans that revealed her bejeweled thong. ---
**Author:** ![SlowMindThinking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@SlowMindThinking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlowMindThinking)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-see-her-underwear-not-a-good-thing/316723/37 "2005-08-13T20:22:18Z")
There are a few other possibilities no one has mentioned. Is it possible from dad’s height that the dress was much less tranparent? I suspect that the dress is the girl’s favorite dress, perhaps the one she wears when dad takes her out. (Especially if mom and dad have split.) I had a coworker whose daughter’s favorite dress was wearing thin. In this case, mom and dad were aware of the developing problem as fast as anyone, but a few more washes and that dress would have been see through. I can believe also believe that the little girl does not have a slip, and that dad was clueless about slips and such. Especially if she is visiting dad, there may have been no alternative. Since she was wearing cotton panties and not “baby slut” underwear, I tend to doubt it was an intentional slut look. ---
**Author:** ![liberty3701](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@liberty3701](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/liberty3701)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-see-her-underwear-not-a-good-thing/316723/38 "2005-08-13T20:37:22Z")
I went to Budapest a few months ago, and all the kids looked weird for some reason… and then I realized\* they were dressed like kids\* and not like some creepy version of a mini adult… ---
**Author:** ![dangermom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@dangermom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dangermom)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-see-her-underwear-not-a-good-thing/316723/39 "2005-08-13T21:32:45Z")
It can be really hard now to even _find_ decent clothes for a little girl. I was in Mervyn’s the other day, and looked around in case there were any clothes good for my 5-yo daughter. Yeah, right. Racks of tiny trendy skirts, spaghetti-strap tops, and glittery velvety things. It’s getting so I have to order most of her things from Lands’ End just to keep her covered up. A 5-yo should be wearing playclothes! Overalls and comfortable shorts and play dresses and stripy shirts, not things that say ‘porn star’ and look slutty on a 16-yo. Argh. ---
**Author:** ![StuffLikeThatThere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc8723/32.png) [@StuffLikeThatThere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StuffLikeThatThere)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-see-her-underwear-not-a-good-thing/316723/40 "2005-08-13T22:18:32Z")
> [@dangermom](#): > > It’s getting so I have to order most of her things from Lands’ End just to keep her covered up. And hooray for Lands’ End. May they always be in business. Seriously, this is a trend which is terribly disturbing to me. I do not have children, though I hope to. If I ever get to have a daughter, I will NOT dress her like a mini-ho. I do not understand the mentality that perpetuates this. I don’t think I’m a prude, but merciful heavens! Where will it end? (And yes, I also feel very old when I say things like this.) Mr. Stuff and I went to an old-fashioned ice cream parlor in a nearby town recently. The waitresses were dressed in poodle skirts that hit below the knee, saddle shoes, and white shirts. They were pretty girls, they looked CUTE, and yet none of them looked like they could be working a street corner. Speaking of which, I was flipping through channels in a hotel a while ago, and I came upon “Pretty Woman.” I was semi-shocked to see that Julia Roberts’ hooker outfit was barely any more revealing than what high school girls wear to the mall now. Anybody else see this effect in an older movie recently? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-see-her-underwear-not-a-good-thing/316723.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-see-her-underwear-not-a-good-thing/316723.md?page=3)