# I could smack, strangle, and lecture you for 3 hrs, but you still won't get it, will you?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 6, 2011, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-smack-strangle-and-lecture-you-for-3-hrs-but-you-still-wont-get-it-will-you/591720 "2011-08-06T11:38:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![OneMissedPost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8e7dd6/32.png) [@OneMissedPost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneMissedPost)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-smack-strangle-and-lecture-you-for-3-hrs-but-you-still-wont-get-it-will-you/591720/61 "2011-08-07T16:42:38Z")

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OP, in my humble opinion, I think you should stop doing drugs. There is obviously no good that can come from it.

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**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-smack-strangle-and-lecture-you-for-3-hrs-but-you-still-wont-get-it-will-you/591720/62 "2011-08-07T17:47:16Z")

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You guys can assume whatever you’d like about my drug use, but I don’t have any reason to lie about it. My life’s an open book, and I guess I thought people would see that stuff as a minor detail of the story. That’s what I get for composing a tedious rant and thinking anyone but me would be interested in it. Obviously, now, I see that I need to be a little more careful in choosing my words. Lesson learned.

And now I’m done with 'ol girl, and ready to stop bitching about her or mentioning her at all. You may now return to your regularly scheduled Pit activity.😛

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-smack-strangle-and-lecture-you-for-3-hrs-but-you-still-wont-get-it-will-you/591720/63 "2011-08-07T19:59:27Z")

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Isn’t beating up other people the"regularly scheduled Pit activity"?

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**Author:** ![OneMissedPost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8e7dd6/32.png) [@OneMissedPost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneMissedPost)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-smack-strangle-and-lecture-you-for-3-hrs-but-you-still-wont-get-it-will-you/591720/64 "2011-08-07T20:25:25Z")

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> [@Indygrrl](#):
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> You guys can assume whatever you’d like about my drug use, but I don’t have any reason to lie about it. My life’s an open book, and I guess I thought people would see that stuff as a minor detail of the story. That’s what I get for composing a tedious rant and thinking anyone but me would be interested in it. Obviously, now, I see that I need to be a little more careful in choosing my words. Lesson learned.
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> And now I’m done with 'ol girl, and ready to stop bitching about her or mentioning her at all. You may now return to your regularly scheduled Pit activity.😛

Welcome to the Pit. Please, enjoy your stay while we rant up a storm.

> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> Isn’t beating up other people the"regularly scheduled Pit activity"?

I believe you are correct.

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**Author:** ![Alice\_The\_Goon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alice\_The\_Goon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alice_The_Goon)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-smack-strangle-and-lecture-you-for-3-hrs-but-you-still-wont-get-it-will-you/591720/65 "2011-08-07T20:31:33Z")

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But what about your heavy drug use? Oh, my heavens, dear! Won’t somebody think of the children??!  
As silly as all of this is, you’ve been here long enough by now to know better than to put that in your OP, and not expect it to get you jumped on.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-smack-strangle-and-lecture-you-for-3-hrs-but-you-still-wont-get-it-will-you/591720/66 "2011-08-07T20:31:51Z")

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I foolishly thought it was a place to rant and vent my spleen

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-smack-strangle-and-lecture-you-for-3-hrs-but-you-still-wont-get-it-will-you/591720/67 "2011-08-07T22:11:56Z")

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> [@Alice\_The\_Goon](#):
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> But what about your heavy drug use? Oh, my heavens, dear! Won’t somebody think of the children??!  
> As silly as all of this is, you’ve been here long enough by now to know better than to put that in your OP, and not expect it to get you jumped on.

To be honest, and I know **Indygrrl** admits it was a mistake, I think it was the way she mentioned it so cavalierly that brought the attention _there_ instead of on ole girl (:)). It was just kind of assumed that we would be cool and just flow with it. I think many Dopers (hehehe) will admit to smoking some pot every now and again. But “blow”? Yeah, that’s a little different.

I’m assuming **Indygrrl** lives in Indianapolis. There ain’t much to do in Nap. So I don’t blame someone who lives there from having a little fun anyway they can!

(The first time I ever got high and drunk at the same time was in Nap. Good times, good times.)

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-smack-strangle-and-lecture-you-for-3-hrs-but-you-still-wont-get-it-will-you/591720/68 "2011-08-08T01:27:39Z")

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> [@Indygrrl](#):
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> …I’m not sending this, or anything else, to the girl. I’m just going to let her go and that will be that…

Thanks for posting this – it solidified a decision I should have made years ago: to distance myself from a friend that’s always in crisis mode and can turn on his friends with no notice. It’s wearing, and I need to not get my knickers so twisted every time he calls with a new problem.

And to all of you who thought the OP was long and boring… yeah, I agree. But so what? I just skipped most of it and still got some good out it. And the good advice from The Pitsters (buried in snark, sure, but I wish I had a Greek Chorus yelling “Let It Go, Dude!”).

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-smack-strangle-and-lecture-you-for-3-hrs-but-you-still-wont-get-it-will-you/591720/69 "2011-08-08T01:55:29Z")

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> [@Alice\_The\_Goon](#):
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> As silly as all of this is, you’ve been here long enough by now to know better than to put that in your OP, and not expect it to get you jumped on.

It’s not just the coke. Right off the bat she was talking about smack.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-smack-strangle-and-lecture-you-for-3-hrs-but-you-still-wont-get-it-will-you/591720/70 "2011-08-08T01:56:30Z")

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> [@Indygrrl](#):
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> Unless, of course, you and your friends are totally straight edge, that’d be the only way snarking on it wouldn’t be hypocritical.

My friends and I do not do recreational drugs when hanging out.

Can I commence snarking?

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**Author:** ![punch\_line\_loser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e7dd6/32.png) [@punch\_line\_loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/punch_line_loser)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-smack-strangle-and-lecture-you-for-3-hrs-but-you-still-wont-get-it-will-you/591720/71 "2011-08-08T02:11:35Z")

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I may not have many years under my belt, but one thing I have managed to learn that it’s likely better to cut your losses than to go to the effort of enumerating grievances like this in detail, especially in writing. It’s a problem I have often: wanting to express exactly how I feel with as much detail as possible and not leave anything out. But then that leads to trying to craft the language to have the most impact, which leads to organization of thoughts, and then suddenly you’ve got an essay built around negative feelings, and all that does is encourage you to dwell on it rather than put it in the past where it belongs.

I’m sorry to hear about the situation, though.

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**Author:** ![OneMissedPost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8e7dd6/32.png) [@OneMissedPost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneMissedPost)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-smack-strangle-and-lecture-you-for-3-hrs-but-you-still-wont-get-it-will-you/591720/72 "2011-08-08T02:15:28Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> My friends and I do not do recreational drugs when hanging out.
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> Can I commence snarking?

Yes - and nor do my friends and I.

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**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-smack-strangle-and-lecture-you-for-3-hrs-but-you-still-wont-get-it-will-you/591720/73 "2011-08-08T03:51:22Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> I’m assuming **Indygrrl** lives in Indianapolis. There ain’t much to do in Nap. So I don’t blame someone who lives there from having a little fun anyway they can!

You should come back and visit again, there’s tons of fun stuff to do in Indianapolis! We have great restaurants of all kinds, beautiful hotels downtown, live music all over, big concert venues (indoor and outdoor) with national acts, a busy convention center, pro and minor league sports teams, beautiful museums (IMA is amazing), an awesome zoo, parks, trails to bike and run, several theatres, a symphony, and we have all sorts of festivals and shit that go on all summer and fall.

I think it was GenCon they had this past weekend. The one before that was Brickyard weekend. Black Expo was before that. And now the State Fair is getting going with all sorts of different shit to do there, and around there. The end of summer will bring Jazzfest and RibFest. And that’s just off the top of my head. This is an awesome town with something for everyone!! Oh, and we’re hosting the Superbowl here in January (and our team is a past SB winner, if you didn’t know that already ;).

I really oughtta join the Indianapolis Welcome Wagon, huh?😃 I would though, because this is a great city and I love living here.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-smack-strangle-and-lecture-you-for-3-hrs-but-you-still-wont-get-it-will-you/591720/74 "2011-08-08T05:19:14Z")

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> [@punch\_line\_loser](#):
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> I may not have many years under my belt, but one thing I have managed to learn that it’s likely better to cut your losses than to go to the effort of enumerating grievances like this in detail, especially in writing. It’s a problem I have often: wanting to express exactly how I feel with as much detail as possible and not leave anything out. But then that leads to trying to craft the language to have the most impact, which leads to organization of thoughts, and then suddenly you’ve got an essay built around negative feelings, and all that does is encourage you to dwell on it rather than put it in the past where it belongs.
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> I’m sorry to hear about the situation, though.

This isn’t necessarily true. All that organizing, thinking, writing and crafting, in order to express your feelings and emotions in the most reflective way possible can be very therapeutic. Very **cathartic**. It can help a person clearly understand their OWN feelings better. And by understanding their own feelings better, they are better equipped to put them in the past.

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**Author:** ![punch\_line\_loser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e7dd6/32.png) [@punch\_line\_loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/punch_line_loser)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-smack-strangle-and-lecture-you-for-3-hrs-but-you-still-wont-get-it-will-you/591720/75 "2011-08-08T05:32:01Z")

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> [@jamiemcgarry](#):
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> This isn’t necessarily true. All that organizing, thinking, writing and crafting, in order to express your feelings and emotions in the most reflective way possible can be very therapeutic. Very **cathartic**. It can help a person clearly understand their OWN feelings better. And by understanding their own feelings better, they are better equipped to put them in the past.

Good point. It may depend on the kind of person you are. In my experience, it’s cathartic up to a point, but after a while it tends to do me more harm than good. I think writing the OP was a healthy exercise, but if it were me I would endeavor to let it end there. But then, I don’t know you or her very well either.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-smack-strangle-and-lecture-you-for-3-hrs-but-you-still-wont-get-it-will-you/591720/76 "2011-08-08T06:35:53Z")

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Didn’t read much, as the cause is obvious:

I’m a member of the “Just Say Yes” generation, but when “blow” and “coke” end up in requests for “when things went wrong,” yeah, that’s pretty much when it happened.

Shit’s not good for you, or your friendships.

ETA: Time for a new hobby.

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**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-smack-strangle-and-lecture-you-for-3-hrs-but-you-still-wont-get-it-will-you/591720/77 "2011-08-08T06:38:24Z")

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tl;dr

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**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-smack-strangle-and-lecture-you-for-3-hrs-but-you-still-wont-get-it-will-you/591720/78 "2011-08-08T06:40:13Z")

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Am I the only one who wondered whether the 3,500 word OP was pounded out while she was _on_ blow?

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-smack-strangle-and-lecture-you-for-3-hrs-but-you-still-wont-get-it-will-you/591720/79 "2011-08-08T06:42:37Z")

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No, it was a given.

ETA: I don’t miss answering the phone at 11PM in the 70s.

ETAA: At 3AM my parents didn’t appreciate, “Tell him to fucking kill himself. I 'm trying to sleep.”

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-could-smack-strangle-and-lecture-you-for-3-hrs-but-you-still-wont-get-it-will-you/591720/80 "2011-08-08T10:23:06Z")

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> [@Indygrrl](#):
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> You should come back and visit again, there’s tons of fun stuff to do in Indianapolis! We have great restaurants of all kinds, beautiful hotels downtown, live music all over, big concert venues (indoor and outdoor) with national acts, a busy convention center, pro and minor league sports teams, beautiful museums (IMA is amazing), an awesome zoo, parks, trails to bike and run, several theatres, a symphony, and we have all sorts of festivals and shit that go on all summer and fall.
> 
> I think it was GenCon they had this past weekend. The one before that was Brickyard weekend. Black Expo was before that. And now the State Fair is getting going with all sorts of different shit to do there, and around there. The end of summer will bring Jazzfest and RibFest. And that’s just off the top of my head. This is an awesome town with something for everyone!! Oh, and we’re hosting the Superbowl here in January (and our team is a past SB winner, if you didn’t know that already ;).
> 
> I really oughtta join the Indianapolis Welcome Wagon, huh?😃 I would though, because this is a great city and I love living here.

Yeah, you should be on the Welcom Wagon. Everytime I go to Indianapolis, I’m like, “This is the state capital? Oh lord!” But it may be because my aunt lives out in some suburb somewhere, not the city proper, and I’m just used to that being my vista of Indianapolis.

However, I was aware of the Black Expo. My relatives in Kokomo live for that kind of stuff.

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