# I Dance on the Grave of Cynical Partisan Obstructionism

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 21, 2010, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199 "2010-03-21T03:20:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/41 "2010-03-21T18:40:33Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Social Security is a fucking disaster. Medicare is a fucking disaster. All your feel-good welfare programs are fucking disasters.

Huh? Compared to what?  
Excellent OP. I give it a 10, and you can dance to it. 😃

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/42 "2010-03-21T18:58:30Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> I find your ideas intriguing and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Yeah, but it’d have to be delivered with a brown paper cover! :eek:

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/43 "2010-03-21T19:08:16Z")

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To the OP:

Bill? Bill Hicks? Is that you? They told me you were dead, man!

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**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/44 "2010-03-21T19:12:27Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> Yes. A few hours from now Rand Rover, Bricker, Shodan and anyone who’s ever screamed socialism at a teabagging rally will be welcome to **kiss my fat ass**.

(my bolding)  
Word has it its big enough that you can kiss it yourself.  
Conservatives are all for self-reliant people, you’re just waiting for a handout, you see it hasn’t even passed and you already are demanding stuff from other people.

And, even if it passes, does it mean you stop figthing when things get tough?

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/45 "2010-03-21T19:28:21Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> William F. Buckley would be opposed to UHC. He’d couch his opposition in dozens of fifty cent words that expressed his utter contempt for liberals but in ways many of us would have to trust in Merriam-Webster to understand.
> 
> Don’t think smart or intellectual = on your side.

If Mr. Buckley was opposed, that would be fine. I only said he was"okay with me" because he used his head, not his dragging-knuckles, as his motive force when it came to policy.

I would never think that just because someone is intellectual they are on my side. But it sure doesn’t hurt. At least they have the capability to change sides if they find good enough reason to do so.

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/46 "2010-03-21T19:38:40Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Maybe because the idea behind this thread is stupid (like [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=550553)). The end of cynical partisan obstructionism? Yeah, right…

A bit wacky, I will admit. Rather like the thread you linked to, which was, of course, the catalyst for this thread.

I would have made the thread title something like: \*\* “I Dance on the Grave of Cynical Partisan Obstructionism as it Concerns This Particular Bit of Progress… For Now, Anyway”\*\* but it was too long. But at least we can get a little dancing in… before The Dark One raises the evilness from the dead.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/47 "2010-03-21T19:44:46Z")

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> [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#):
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> (my bolding)  
> Word has it its big enough that you can kiss it yourself.  
> Conservatives are all for self-reliant people, you’re just waiting for a handout, you see it hasn’t even passed and you already are demanding stuff from other people.
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> And, even if it passes, does it mean you stop figthing when things get tough?

You’re invited to kiss my ass too. So is Clothahump. In fact I’ll have one big ass kissing party. I’ll let you guys know the location as soon as the vote takes place.

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**Author:** ![kingbighair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/13edae/32.png) [@kingbighair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingbighair)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/48 "2010-03-21T19:48:55Z")

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I just wanted to be part of what I expect will be a legendary thread.

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/49 "2010-03-21T19:51:14Z")

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Oh sorry, one more little post for now.

> [@gaffa](#):
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> To the OP:
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> Bill? Bill Hicks? Is that you? They told me you were dead, man!

I should have acknowledged in my OP that it owed a lot to the great Bill Hicks. The “scaly cock” of Satan and maybe a couple other parts were lifted almost verbatim.

It doesn’t do Hicks justice, though. I’m only a very mild stand-in. Can you imagine how he would have reacted to all this bullshit were he alive today?

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**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/50 "2010-03-21T19:52:58Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Guys, you libs have a history of fucking disasters, one after another. Social Security is a fucking disaster. Medicare is a fucking disaster. All your feel-good welfare programs are fucking disasters. And yet Obamacare is somehow gonna be a _good_ thing?

Social Security and Medicare are keeping some of my beloved relatives alive and healthy. I wouldn’t call that a disaster.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/51 "2010-03-21T19:58:39Z")

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> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> If Mr. Buckley was opposed, that would be fine. I only said he was"okay with me" because he used his head, not his dragging-knuckles, as his motive force when it came to policy.

Honestly, I’m not so sure.

Oh, he liked to baffle with bullshit, but I think the late Mr. Buckley was just a higher-rent knuckle-dragger.

To quote him: “A Conservative is a fellow who is standing athwart history yelling “Stop!””

Good luck to them with that.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/52 "2010-03-21T20:00:25Z")

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> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> …Can you imagine how he would have reacted to all this bullshit were he alive today?

_I dreamed I saw Bill Hicks last night,  
alive as you and me.  
Says I “But Bill, you’re ten years dead”  
“I never died” said he,  
“I never died” said he._

People’s key of C

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/53 "2010-03-21T20:07:47Z")

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> [@kingbighair](#):
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> I just wanted to be part of what I expect will be a legendary thread.

What he said.

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/54 "2010-03-21T20:09:51Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> People’s key of C

Ah yes. I look forward to that. The fast-approaching day when our Socialist leaders arm-twist the Congress into passing a Music Theory Reform bill.

At last! We pry music from the corporate elite and return it to the People!

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/55 "2010-03-21T20:23:44Z")

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“The reason most folk songs are so atrocious is that they were written by the people”.

- Tom Lehrer

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/56 "2010-03-21T20:30:39Z")

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> [@suranyi](#):
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> Social Security and Medicare are keeping some of my beloved relatives alive and healthy. I wouldn’t call that a disaster.

If they’re not “pulling their weight” — no matter what their age or level of physical capability — then to **Clothahump** and co. that is a disaster.

Just getting my own .02 (adjusted for inflation) into the thread.

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**Author:** ![Piker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@Piker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Piker)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/57 "2010-03-21T20:31:42Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Guys, you libs have a history of fucking disasters, one after another. Social Security is a fucking disaster. Medicare is a fucking disaster. All your feel-good welfare programs are fucking disasters. And yet Obamacare is somehow gonna be a _good_ thing?

Right. Social Security and Medicare have not dramatically improved the quality of life of seniors in this country?

I like “Obamacare”, btw, nice focus grouped re-branding. The GOP would be proud.

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**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/58 "2010-03-21T20:34:41Z")

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> [@kingbighair](#):
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> I just wanted to be part of what I expect will be a legendary thread.

I seriously hope that these internet discussions will be archived for future generations. Children 50 years from now should look with puzzled amusement at all the arguments from the opposition. It will seem unbelievable that the richest country on earth let its own citizens die if they couldn’t afford health care.

Ardent Teabaggers of today will mostly end up lying to their grandchildren, or avoiding bringing this subject up entirely (just like that surviving pro-segregationists of today are laying low) in order to avoid being ashamed.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/59 "2010-03-21T20:34:43Z")

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They’ve been disasters\* for the Republicans\*. **Humpy** is right about that much.

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**Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/60 "2010-03-21T21:00:43Z")

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I’m going to post this here because what with all this dancing going on, I feel an urge to do “The Bump”!

Does anyone know approximately when the dancing will start in earnest? IOW, about when will the crucial vote occur?

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