# I Dance on the Grave of Cynical Partisan Obstructionism

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 21, 2010, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199 "2010-03-21T03:20:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/161 "2010-03-22T20:53:42Z")

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> [@FE3O4ENAIL](#):
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> Got a car battery, a stove and some clay?  
> If so you can make bullets.  
> How would you control that?

Stormtroopers in Black Helicopters. Easy.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/162 "2010-03-22T20:54:53Z")

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> [@Squink](#):
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> Bullets don’t kill people, momentum transfer kills people.

Physics is a bitch.

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**Author:** ![FE3O4ENAIL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ba9def/32.png) [@FE3O4ENAIL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FE3O4ENAIL)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/163 "2010-03-22T21:01:55Z")

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> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> Stormtroopers in Black Helicopters. Easy.

“Aren’t you a little short for a stormtrooper?”

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/164 "2010-03-22T21:05:06Z")

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> [@FE3O4ENAIL](#):
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> “Aren’t you a little short for a stormtrooper?”

Well, he’s a smurf…

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**Author:** ![FE3O4ENAIL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ba9def/32.png) [@FE3O4ENAIL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FE3O4ENAIL)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/165 "2010-03-22T21:07:27Z")

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> Well, he’s a smurf…

Red roses for a blue…

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/166 "2010-03-22T21:43:29Z")

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> [@Squink](#):
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> Bullets don’t kill people, momentum transfer kills people.

Momentum transfer don’t kill people, Isaac Newton kills people.

Incidentally, Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son-of-a-bitch in space.

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**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/167 "2010-03-22T22:02:14Z")

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> [@Squink](#):
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> Bullets don’t kill people, momentum transfer kills people.

It’s the law!

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/168 "2010-03-23T00:07:57Z")

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> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> Stormtroopers in Black Helicopters. Easy.

No, no! The Rule of Cool demands Stormtroopers riding on Dinosaurs!

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/169 "2010-03-23T01:49:21Z")

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> [@Squink](#):
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> Bullets don’t kill people, momentum transfer kills people.

Nah, it’s more the loss of blood and severe physical trauma, eventually leading to heart failure.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/170 "2010-03-23T02:45:48Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> Nah, it’s more the loss of blood and severe physical trauma, eventually leading to heart failure.

Exactly. Bullet _holes_ kill people.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/171 "2010-03-23T03:17:35Z")

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So, OP, if the Republicans attempt to repeal this bill after getting a majority in the House and Senate and the Democrats oppose this, would you characterize that as “cynical obstructionism”?

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/172 "2010-03-23T04:20:11Z")

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> [@Rand Rover](#):
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> So, OP, if the Republicans attempt to repeal this bill

Pssst: you can’t repeal a bill. You can repeal a **law** , assuming you have either (a) a majority in favor of repeal plus no veto of repeal in the Executive Branch, or (b) a two-thirds supermajority in favor of repeal that can override a veto.

Which of those are you imagining you’ll get?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/173 "2010-03-23T04:21:57Z")

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I dunno, he could have a pretty good imagination…

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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/174 "2010-03-23T04:25:23Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> So, OP, if the Republicans attempt to repeal this bill after getting a majority in the House and Senate and the Democrats oppose this, would you characterize that as “cynical obstructionism”?

We’ll cross that bridge in 2070 when we get there.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/175 "2010-03-23T04:42:56Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> Pssst: you can’t repeal a bill. You can repeal a **law** , assuming you have either (a) a majority in favor of repeal plus no veto of repeal in the Executive Branch, or (b) a two-thirds supermajority in favor of repeal that can override a veto.

They don’t teach that kind 'o stuff in Billybob’s lawyerin school and pork rind factory. Seriously **RR** , you ARE aware of how your own country’s laws are created, are you not?

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/176 "2010-03-23T04:49:55Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> So, OP, if the Republicans attempt to repeal this bill after getting a majority in the House and Senate and the Democrats oppose this, would you characterize that as “cynical obstructionism”?

I think it would depend on how many lies they tell while they’re doing it. After “death panels”, the bar is set pretty high.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/177 "2010-03-23T05:19:11Z")

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> Exactly. Bullet _holes_ kill people.

And what is a hole, really? It is . . . nothing. So, nothing kills people! It’s a wonderful world! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/178 "2010-03-23T05:49:57Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> And what is a hole, really? It is . . . nothing. So, nothing kills people! It’s a wonderful world! 🙂

I like your attitude. Let’s have a beer sometime 🙂

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/179 "2010-03-23T05:55:14Z")

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But, dude, is it the nothing itself that kills people, or is it something else? Oh, wow, no man, I don’t drink beer…

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dance-on-the-grave-of-cynical-partisan-obstructionism/533199/180 "2010-03-23T06:28:29Z")

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…cause it leaks out the holes.

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