# I despise winged collars **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 21, 2007, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-despise-winged-collars/388808 "2007-01-21T06:58:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Cymro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Cymro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cymro)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-despise-winged-collars/388808/1 "2007-01-21T06:58:52Z")
In black tie for men, those collars with the little ‘wings’, where you can see the entire length of the bow tie. Shudder. Makes the wearer look like a 14 year old boy at his first ‘posh’ event. Truly awful when combined with a fake bow tie. Cymro ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-despise-winged-collars/388808/2 "2007-01-21T15:59:22Z")
Hey - they’re great for going to court - how else would I wear my tabs? ---
**Author:** ![Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swallowed_My_Cellphone)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-despise-winged-collars/388808/3 "2007-01-21T18:07:45Z")
[QUOTE=Cymro] In black tie for men, those collars with the little ‘wings’, where you can see the entire length of the bow tie. Shudder. Makes the wearer look like a 14 year old boy at his first ‘posh’ event. [/QUOTE] I don’t mind it at all if you’re in a full dress tux (tailcoat) with the pique vest and tie. Like [this photo](http://www.skmenswear.com/skmenswear/images/tuxedo_rentals/PZAAHFTCTF5.JPG) or if you’re wearing a morning coat and an [ascot.](http://www.rickysarani.com/japanese/image/l3.jpg) I’m not fond of colored bow-ties in general actually. With a winged collar they make me look like I’m 12 again. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-despise-winged-collars/388808/4 "2007-01-21T18:53:27Z")
They look especially silly without the tailfeathers. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-despise-winged-collars/388808/5 "2007-01-21T19:58:32Z")
The piddly little ready-attached wings on your typical rental tux shirt generally do look like something a high school boy would wear to prom. But if the v is deep enough and the wings just about as wide as the bowtie - the classic detachable stiff collar style - the whole effect is [elegant as hell](http://bonzasheila.com/blogimages/fred2.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![According\_to\_Pliny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e7dd6/32.png) [@According\_to\_Pliny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/According_to_Pliny)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2007, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-despise-winged-collars/388808/6 "2007-01-22T00:20:31Z")
I always wanted to wear one of those, but I go to black tie so seldom that I don’t buy special shirts. ---
**Author:** ![Cunctator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/43a26b/32.png) [@Cunctator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cunctator)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2007, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-despise-winged-collars/388808/7 "2007-01-22T00:49:19Z")
I wear black tie quite often, since that’s what choir dress is when we perform. I don’t mind the winged collars at all.