# I did a bad thing, KFC hates me, and the baby Jesus is crying.

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-a-bad-thing-kfc-hates-me-and-the-baby-jesus-is-crying/119989
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [July 20, 2002, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-a-bad-thing-kfc-hates-me-and-the-baby-jesus-is-crying/119989 "2002-07-20T18:06:29Z")
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### Author: ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)
#### Post date: [July 22, 2002, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-a-bad-thing-kfc-hates-me-and-the-baby-jesus-is-crying/119989/41 "2002-07-22T17:08:56Z")

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Well, if the delivery man had been someone who appealed sexually to **scott** , and they’d made a date, and then practiced unsafe sex, and the delivery man turned out to be HIV+…

Huh? You mean it’s **not** required to give **scott** a safe-sex warning in every thread he starts? :eek:

😃

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### Author: ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)
#### Post date: [July 22, 2002, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-a-bad-thing-kfc-hates-me-and-the-baby-jesus-is-crying/119989/42 "2002-07-22T18:15:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by scott evil \*  
> \*\*So who do I write the letter of apology to? Colonel bloody Sanders?  
> \*\*

I’ll have you know the Colonel was a very nice man. I met him at the airport when I was two (he had the white coat and everything!).

He gave me an autographed photo (still have it) and asked me “Do you like chicken?”

So you should whip out the ouja board to apologize to the Colonel and ask him to forgive you for sending his minion on a wild goose chase. Otherwise, you may be target for chicken hauntings. (Poultrygeists are very scary.)

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### Author: ![SisterCoyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@SisterCoyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SisterCoyote)
#### Post date: [July 22, 2002, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-a-bad-thing-kfc-hates-me-and-the-baby-jesus-is-crying/119989/43 "2002-07-22T19:12:12Z")

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:: Lashes **Poly** about the head and shoulders with a limp noodle :: 😉

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### Author: ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [July 22, 2002, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-a-bad-thing-kfc-hates-me-and-the-baby-jesus-is-crying/119989/44 "2002-07-22T19:29:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by drewcosten \*  
> \*\*After a brief search I came up with this:
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> [http://www.yum.com/news/100797.htm](http://www.yum.com/news/100797.htm)
> 
> Technically, from what I can gather from Yum! Brands, Inc.'s site (the new name of Tricon Global Restaurants, Inc., the spin-off company that now owns KFC, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, and now Long John Silver’s and A&W) is that they technically are still owned by Pepsi (or at least the Pepsi share holders) in some manner, but anything business related goes over my head so I’d be curious to know if someone can explain this to me.\*\*

I think **Kat** was requesting a cite for the names being shortened, not the sale of the parent company.

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### Author: ![Fionn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Fionn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fionn)
#### Post date: [July 22, 2002, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-a-bad-thing-kfc-hates-me-and-the-baby-jesus-is-crying/119989/45 "2002-07-22T19:50:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Crepitus Fremitus \*  
> \*\*You have done an evil thing **scott evil**. That chicken sacrificed its life so that you might eat. You have defouled its act of noble slaughter.
> 
> The only way to atone-- Find an orphaned child who’s parents were killed by roosters, and raise him…as a chicken.
> 
> If you ordered slaw, find a second child and raise him as a cabbage. \*\*

🙂

Good thing he didn’t order seafood.

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### Author: ![SwimmingRiddles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SwimmingRiddles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwimmingRiddles)
#### Post date: [July 22, 2002, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-a-bad-thing-kfc-hates-me-and-the-baby-jesus-is-crying/119989/46 "2002-07-22T20:04:05Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Catmarie \*  
> \*\*
> 
> Not to sound nasty or anything but might she have meant that she had no other change with which to make the tip. Would you have made change for her if you had asked? It also may have been that she required that $20 for some other purpose? Of course it might have been the evil moo from hell. 😉 \*\*

But she was coming back from the cash register, which is, by definition, just brimming with change for a $20. And I don’t care if she needed the $20 for something else, all I require is $2 or $3 to make me NOT mumble swears at a customer. If she NEEDED the $20 for something else, she should have budgeted better, gone to McDonalds or paid with a charge or check. That’s why, if you’re on a budget, you look at the menu before you sit down, order food and eat it. Can’t afford to tip? Don’t eat out. (and while I’m on a rant, 15% is the BARE minumum. Unless I get rude service, or an inconsiderate server, I always give 15%, even if the food is crazy slow. I give 20% if the food comes within a reasonable time, and the server is ANY good at all. When you’re making $3.50 an hour, you NEED that 15%.)

And any smart waitress, at any time, will be MORE than chipper to get change for you. The good ones (and I believe I am a good waitress) will automatically bring five $1s, one $5 and a $10, when asked for change. We know that’s our tip they’re talking about. The point is, this cheap goat felcher didn’t WANT to tip me. And I reiterate, I am a GOOD waitress. Nope. She’s just evil.

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### Author: ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)
#### Post date: [July 22, 2002, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-a-bad-thing-kfc-hates-me-and-the-baby-jesus-is-crying/119989/47 "2002-07-22T20:10:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Charmian \*  
> \*\*Like when McDonald’s had pizza here but not in the U.S. (and no, it wasn’t McPizza, it was “Pi}}a”…er, pretend that the squiggles are “golden arches” on their sides.) \*\*

They have that in New Boston, Texas.

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### Author: ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)
#### Post date: [July 22, 2002, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-a-bad-thing-kfc-hates-me-and-the-baby-jesus-is-crying/119989/48 "2002-07-22T20:10:58Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Jeff Olsen \*  
> \*\*I think **Kat** was requesting a cite for the names being shortened, not the sale of the parent company. \*\*

I’d like to see a cite on this too. Making such a radical change to a very successful branding campaign is a HUGE big deal, usually accompanied by a significant press release. I’ve seen nothing about it in the marketing/branding trade mags. There’s no mention of shortening anything on their official site either (under their press releases page).

Perhaps there is some confusion caused by a specific ad campaign (ie/ There’s the slogan “Do the Dew!”, but Mountain Dew has most definitely not shortened its name to “Dew.”)

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### Author: ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)
#### Post date: [July 22, 2002, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-a-bad-thing-kfc-hates-me-and-the-baby-jesus-is-crying/119989/49 "2002-07-22T20:20:43Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Kricket \*  
> \*\*KFC, Taco Bell, and Pizza Hut are no longer owned by Pepsi-co.  
> That is one reason why the names have been shortened KFC, the Bell and the Hut.  
> They sold them off about three years ago or so. \*\*

Woah-- say what? If this is a joke then woosh, but otherwise I call shenanigans!

KFC was changed to reflect the reality-- EVERYONE was calling it KFC, and since they broadened the menu a bit it was the logical thing to do. Think FedEx from Federal Express.

Taco Bell it still Taco Bell- “the Bell” is just a dumb nickname that they seem to use now and then in ads. Nasty food though.

Pizza Hut is still Pizza Hut. Its ok Pizza, but nothing special. Much like Papa Johns, I will eat it if its free, but would not pay for it-- much better to be had IMHO.

Here is my cite:

[http://money.cnn.com/2002/04/29/news/companies/tricon/index.htm](http://money.cnn.com/2002/04/29/news/companies/tricon/index.htm)

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### Author: ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)
#### Post date: [July 22, 2002, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-a-bad-thing-kfc-hates-me-and-the-baby-jesus-is-crying/119989/50 "2002-07-22T20:23:46Z")

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Ok, the name change went through-- Tricon changed its name to the moronic Yum! Brands, Inc. Without a doubt this is one of the dumber moves I have seen in a bit.

Here are the latest details on the company-- maybe this is how you got confused?

Cite:

[http://money.cnn.com/MGI/snap/A1556.htm](http://money.cnn.com/MGI/snap/A1556.htm)

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### Author: ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [July 22, 2002, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-a-bad-thing-kfc-hates-me-and-the-baby-jesus-is-crying/119989/51 "2002-07-22T20:25:43Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Homebrew \*\*\*
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> > [@](#):
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> > \*Originally posted by Charmian \*  
> > Like when McDonald’s had pizza here but not in the U.S. (and no, it wasn’t McPizza, it was “Pi}}a”…er, pretend that the squiggles are “golden arches” on their sides.)
> 
> They have that in New Boston, Texas. \*\*

A McDonald’s in Vienna, VA, also had Pi}}a. I never tried it but I heard the quality was about the same as pizza from a school cafeteria.

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### Author: ![Catmarie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8491ac/32.png) [@Catmarie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catmarie)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2002, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-a-bad-thing-kfc-hates-me-and-the-baby-jesus-is-crying/119989/52 "2002-07-23T06:53:03Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by SwimmingRiddles \*  
> \*\*
> 
> But she was coming back from the cash register, which is, by definition, just brimming with change for a $20. And I don’t care if she needed the $20 for something else, all I require is $2 or $3 to make me NOT mumble swears at a customer. If she NEEDED the $20 for something else, she should have budgeted better, gone to McDonalds or paid with a charge or check. That’s why, if you’re on a budget, you look at the menu before you sit down, order food and eat it. Can’t afford to tip? Don’t eat out. (and while I’m on a rant, 15% is the BARE minumum. Unless I get rude service, or an inconsiderate server, I always give 15%, even if the food is crazy slow. I give 20% if the food comes within a reasonable time, and the server is ANY good at all. When you’re making $3.50 an hour, you NEED that 15%.)
> 
> And any smart waitress, at any time, will be MORE than chipper to get change for you. The good ones (and I believe I am a good waitress) will automatically bring five $1s, one $5 and a $10, when asked for change. We know that’s our tip they’re talking about. The point is, this cheap goat felcher didn’t WANT to tip me. And I reiterate, I am a GOOD waitress. Nope. She’s just evil. \*\*

::backs off slowly with her hands in the air:: Hey calm down I was trying to suggest reasons why she might not have done as you expected. :eek: I did say that she might have been evil.

I think that the system in the States sucks big time when the waitress/waiter REQUIRES a 15% tip. It was one of the hardest things to adjust to when I visited the States recently. Here in the UK I tip a MINIMUM of 10% unless the service truely stank (and it has happened that I have needed to get up and remind the waitress that we were waiting for our order to be taken, no it was not busy, she was gassing :rolleyes: ) then go up as the service gets better or if we were a large group. At least then the tip can reflect the service and not have to pay the wages.

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### Author: ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2002, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-a-bad-thing-kfc-hates-me-and-the-baby-jesus-is-crying/119989/53 "2002-07-23T11:58:43Z")

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Well, this wasn’t supposed to be a thread about tipping, I suspect, but as far as I’m concerned, tipping is optional. If it were mandatory, it would be included in the bill (20% gratuity, for example) all the time.

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