# I did it!, or, Vanyel finishes learning about Vanyel **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 25, 2003, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-it-or-vanyel-finishes-learning-about-vanyel/184395 "2003-06-25T23:35:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Vanyel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@Vanyel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vanyel)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-it-or-vanyel-finishes-learning-about-vanyel/184395/1 "2003-06-25T23:35:17Z")
Well, I finally finished them. Yep. Every one. All the [books](http://vanyel.teemingmillions.com/images/Valdemar2.jpg) about Valdemar and related lands by Mercedes Lackey. And no, I’m **not** _shay’a’chern_, _she’chorne_, shaych, or whatever you want to call it–just powerful and heroic;) So, anyone else read these books? (Well, other than **Herald Gwena** , since I know she has) ---
**Author:** ![thi6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@thi6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thi6)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-it-or-vanyel-finishes-learning-about-vanyel/184395/2 "2003-06-26T00:13:09Z")
_raises hand_ Now I’m waiting for the second book about Alberich’s life. ---
**Author:** ![Vanyel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@Vanyel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vanyel)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-it-or-vanyel-finishes-learning-about-vanyel/184395/3 "2003-06-26T04:26:42Z")
Yeah, I wanna find out details about him saving Selaney from her first husband’s assassination attempt! I was somewhat disappointed when _Exile’s Honor_ stopped short of that…☹ ---
**Author:** ![sotally\_tober](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/46a35a/32.png) [@sotally\_tober](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sotally_tober)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-it-or-vanyel-finishes-learning-about-vanyel/184395/4 "2003-06-26T05:30:56Z")
I wonder if anyone knows if Mercedes is gonna continue with her Valdemar series…What’s the latest? Owlsight? ---
**Author:** ![Quantum\_Butterfly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e79b87/32.png) [@Quantum\_Butterfly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quantum_Butterfly)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-it-or-vanyel-finishes-learning-about-vanyel/184395/5 "2003-06-26T06:00:31Z")
Hi, my name is **Quantum Butterfly** , and I’m a Mercedes Lackey addict. Hey **Vanyel** , how did you pick your username if you just now finished the Last Herald-Mage trilogy? For all my fellow fans, I offer a linkety link: [www.mercedeslackey.com](http://www.mercedeslackey.com) She posts updates on upcoming books; IIRC, the second Alberich book should be out sometime this year. ---
**Author:** ![Vanyel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@Vanyel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vanyel)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-it-or-vanyel-finishes-learning-about-vanyel/184395/6 "2003-06-26T06:09:59Z")
**QB** , I actually just finished _Owlknight_; by Valdemaran reckoning, Last Herald-Mage is only the second trilogy, after Mage Wars. Also, I think they were the first ones I read from the library many many years ago. Another book (or trilogy) I’d like to see would be about King Valdemar himself, and the founding. Characters have talked about it often enough, but only in general terms, and almost nothing of what led him to flee the Eastern Empire. ---
**Author:** ![Vanyel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@Vanyel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vanyel)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-it-or-vanyel-finishes-learning-about-vanyel/184395/7 "2003-06-26T06:19:30Z")
Now that I look at that link, I see you’re right, **QB**! > [@](#): > > EXILE’S VALOR A second Alberich book. As many people have noticed, there is a book sized hole between the events in Exile’s Honor, and where the action takes up in Take a Thief. Exile’s Honor will cover the courtship, marriage and death of the late Prince of Rethwellen. Ooh, and I hadn’t seen the _Valdemar Short Story Collection_ (apparently different from _Sword of Ice_), which includes the story of how Talia got to be a Sun Priestess! ---
**Author:** ![Quantum\_Butterfly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e79b87/32.png) [@Quantum\_Butterfly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quantum_Butterfly)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-it-or-vanyel-finishes-learning-about-vanyel/184395/8 "2003-06-26T06:23:09Z")
> [@](#): > > _Posted by Vanyel_ > Yep. Every one. All the books about Valdemar and related lands by Mercedes Lackey. :smack: Sorry about the mistake. What can I say, it’s late. ---
**Author:** ![Vanyel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@Vanyel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vanyel)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-it-or-vanyel-finishes-learning-about-vanyel/184395/9 "2003-06-26T06:30:36Z")
Speaking of late, I’m off to bed for the night; I’ve gotta go to grandma’s tomorrow (well, today) to do yardwork, and I have to get up in 5½ hours…yikes! ---
**Author:** ![Vanyel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@Vanyel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vanyel)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-it-or-vanyel-finishes-learning-about-vanyel/184395/10 "2003-06-26T06:39:48Z")
Saaay, waitaminute…where’s my copy of _The Fire Rose_?!? One of you took it, didn’t you! It should be with the rest of the Lackey books, but as you can see in the picture link, it clearly isn’t! And I was just thinking about taking that one along for tomorrow night (I’m also sleeping over at grandma’s, along with **Merla** (my sister)). ::_Vanyel runs off yelling and screaming, calling for the City Guard; suddenly remembers he’s the great Vanyel, and smites all those thieving, thieverly, thiefs!_:: ---
**Author:** ![Siege](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@Siege](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siege)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-it-or-vanyel-finishes-learning-about-vanyel/184395/11 "2003-06-26T10:28:44Z")
Hi. My name is Siege and I’m a Mercedes Lackey addict. Among my sins, I once gave a teenager a copy of _The Oathbound_. It was at an RG; I’d just finished it and she hadn’t. CJ ---
**Author:** ![whiterabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/cab0a1/32.png) [@whiterabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whiterabbit)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-it-or-vanyel-finishes-learning-about-vanyel/184395/12 "2003-06-26T14:27:25Z")
Me! ME! MEEEEEE!!! I read online somewhere that she’s not planning on doing anything around the time of the Founding; she’d rather leave that as legend/history. But the $$$ may change her mind one day, who knows? I’m dying for the next Alberich book. Isn’t it due out in a couple of months? I hate waiting for books! ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-it-or-vanyel-finishes-learning-about-vanyel/184395/13 "2003-06-26T14:56:13Z")
Another fan checking in here. I’m waiting for _Exile’s Valor_, too–and I’m **not** going to be a nice uncle and let my niece read it first this time. I didn’t get to read my copy of _Exile’s Honor_ until a week after I bought it–sheer torture!–because the little sneak finished it, then reread it without telling me. (Yes, she’s a serious fan, too. 🙂 ) ---
**Author:** ![thi6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@thi6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thi6)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-it-or-vanyel-finishes-learning-about-vanyel/184395/14 "2003-06-26T15:44:53Z")
Speaking of _The Fire Rose_, does anyone know when _Phoenyx and Ashes_ is coming out? I didn’t see anything new about it on Lackey’s site. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-it-or-vanyel-finishes-learning-about-vanyel/184395/15 "2003-06-26T18:00:46Z")
I just started reading the _Mage Winds_ trilogy again after being interrupted a few years ago (and then they were packed up into the attic). My god, they’re so good! (Yeah, I know, out of order, but I bought them on a whim at a used book sale-hardbacks, too!) I want to read more about Darkwind and Elspeth! I love the Tayladras, especially their bond birds. Vree is so cute. I want a bond bird that talks to me in Mind Speech! ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-it-or-vanyel-finishes-learning-about-vanyel/184395/16 "2003-06-26T18:49:51Z")
Ah. I just dug up proof of my Lackey-geekery. I recently posted a transcript of a conversation with a telemarketer in the Pit, and I’m going to reproduce it below. Some of you may not even need the (very rough) translations. 🙂 \ B: “Zhai’elleva.” (“Wind to your wings.” A greeting.) T: “May I speak to Mr. Balance?” B: “Hai.” (“Yes.”) T: “Yes, hello, Mr. Balance. I’m calling to see if I can interest you in blahblahblah…” B: “Isda Ma’trix?” (“Have you seen The Matrix?”) T: “Pardon me?” B: “Nohs for’shava.” (“It’s very good.”) T: “I don’t understand.” B: “Ke’anu Corthu se shesti.” (“Keanu as The One is ridiculous, though.”) \ B: “So’trekoth.” (“Gullible fool.”) Obviously, the grammar is horribly mangled, but I remembered enough vocabulary to actually improvise conversation with it. ---
**Author:** ![Quantum\_Butterfly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e79b87/32.png) [@Quantum\_Butterfly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quantum_Butterfly)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-it-or-vanyel-finishes-learning-about-vanyel/184395/17 "2003-06-26T18:55:31Z")
😃 ::giggling madly:: Oh man, I HAVE to try that sometime! Wonder if Lackey will ever work up a complete Shin’a’in or Tayledras dictionary and grammar, like Tolkien did for the various forms of elvish? That would so rock! ---
**Author:** ![Vanyel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@Vanyel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vanyel)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-it-or-vanyel-finishes-learning-about-vanyel/184395/18 "2003-06-27T16:09:06Z")
I could probably manage a short conversation like that in Shin’a’in, but I’m not quite as good at Tayledras. Anyone heard any of the songs from the books? I know I’ve read that you can get them, but I haven’t heard any myself. **Guinastasia** , have you read the books about Darien yet? He is adopted by the Tayledras, so you can get your fill of Hawkbrothers! ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-it-or-vanyel-finishes-learning-about-vanyel/184395/19 "2003-06-27T17:11:07Z")
No, just the _Mage Winds_. Like I said, it took me a while to get back to these. I will, hopefully. So don’t spoil me!!! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-it-or-vanyel-finishes-learning-about-vanyel/184395/20 "2003-06-27T18:05:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Vanyel \* > I could probably manage a short conversation like that in Shin’a’in, but I’m not quite as good at Tayledras. Anyone heard any of the songs from the books? I know I’ve read that you can get them, but I haven’t heard any myself. I’ve got the “Heralds, Harpers, and Havoc” CD, which has songs from the original trilogy, including “Threes”, “Dark and Stormy Night”, “Fundamentals” (the ground & center song), and two Sunsinger/Shadowdancer songs (“Meeting” and “Sun and Shadow”). I like most of the songs a lot. [Firebird Arts & Music](http://firebirdarts.com) sells the CDs. You can listen to some samples at [Firebird’s Lackey music page](http://www.firebirdarts.com/music/3music33.shtml). They also sell feather jewelry, t-shirts, Jody Lee art (though I rather prefer Larry Dixon’s illustrations), and assorted other Valdemar-related merchandise. I have a Silver Gryphon pin that I sometimes wear just to see who recognizes it. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-it-or-vanyel-finishes-learning-about-vanyel/184395.md?page=2)