# I did NOT want to see that. (Football injury) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 17, 2006, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-not-want-to-see-that-football-injury/373015 "2006-09-17T00:28:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-not-want-to-see-that-football-injury/373015/21 "2006-09-17T12:50:40Z")
Moderator interjects: I’ve amended the title of the thread to make it clear what y’all are talking about. See [FAQ - Guidelines and Etiquette](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=384745) and note post #3. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-not-want-to-see-that-football-injury/373015/22 "2006-09-17T13:01:52Z")
The reaction of the dude who tackled Theisman was indicative to how awful it was. He went from celebrating his most excellent sack to saying (one imagines), “Holy shit!!!” As a Bengals fame, I’ll never forget Tim Krumrie’s injury for its graphic horrificness or Carson Palmer’s injury for its graphic (false) innocuousness. ---
**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-not-want-to-see-that-football-injury/373015/23 "2006-09-17T14:20:55Z")
[QUOTE=PunditLisa] The reaction of the dude who tackled Theisman was indicative to how awful it was. He went from celebrating his most excellent sack to saying (one imagines), “Holy shit!!!” [/QUOTE] Lawrence Taylor ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-not-want-to-see-that-football-injury/373015/24 "2006-09-17T14:21:19Z")
I was thinking about Palmer’s injury. You’re right, \*_PunditLisa_, it looks like von Oelhoffen just sorta hits Palmer low, not all that hard, and then Palmer just can’t get up. [This page](http://www.bengalsbrigade.com/video-carson-palmers-knee-pop) has a video. Just click the link, I don’t think it will load automatically. The only broken leg I’ve seen live in football when I was watching something like the first or second televised XFL game. That stopped play for like 45 minutes. ---
**Author:** ![elelator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba8739/32.png) [@elelator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elelator)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-not-want-to-see-that-football-injury/373015/25 "2006-09-17T14:44:01Z")
Not a video, just a [pic](http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~choh/busst.jpg). There are two blue stockings in that picture; look at the one on the left. Not surprisingly, he never played again. [This guy](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7uydkrbk4Y) is out for at least nine months. But [this one](http://youtube.com/watch?v=q_5eEo5Ar-A) always makes me cringe. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-not-want-to-see-that-football-injury/373015/26 "2006-09-17T15:04:34Z")
[QUOTE=astro] [Joe Theismann’s broken leg.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiz_8zeDet4) About .50 seconds into the video. Don’t be eating when you watch it. [/QUOTE] I couldn’t really see it in the video. The photo I saw 20 years ago was clear. ---
**Author:** ![dinahmoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8797f3/32.png) [@dinahmoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dinahmoe)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-not-want-to-see-that-football-injury/373015/27 "2006-09-17T15:21:37Z")
Hideki Matsui’s broken wrist earlier this season was pretty icky to watch. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-not-want-to-see-that-football-injury/373015/28 "2006-09-17T15:25:43Z")
Moises Alou broke his leg a few years ago in a manner every bit as horrifying as the Theismann injury. He just stopped running while rounding second, and for whatever reason, it snapped like a twig and was flopping like a noodle. The ump had to turn and hide his eyes. It was vile. And Robin Ventura once broke his ankle sliding into home. You could tell because his foot was pointed 180 degrees in the wrong direction, which, as you may know, it isn’t supposed to do. I saw a still photo of it and it was hard to believe it even when you were looking at it. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-not-want-to-see-that-football-injury/373015/29 "2006-09-17T16:01:20Z")
[QUOTE=PunditLisa] The reaction of the dude who tackled Theisman was indicative to how awful it was. He went from celebrating his most excellent sack to saying (one imagines), “Holy shit!!!” [/QUOTE] Moreso when you realize that Taylor sacked quite a few quarterbacks in his day, and caused more than a few injuries and was not a generally warm and fuzzy guy on (or off) the field. That HE was calling for help means something is very, very wrong. I showed that video to my wife a few years ago, and she said something like, “It just looks like he hyperextended his knee.” Until I pointed out the the hyperextension occured nowhere near the knee. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-not-want-to-see-that-football-injury/373015/30 "2006-09-17T16:05:55Z")
What I came here to post was [Tony Saunders](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Saunders) breaking his arm in 1999. I can’t find video, but it’s a weird freak injury. He’s just pitching the ball, and his arm sort of just falls off, attached only by skin. He collapses to the ground writhing in agony. The guy tried to make a comeback, only to have it happen again. He then retired. ---
**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-not-want-to-see-that-football-injury/373015/31 "2006-09-17T16:07:53Z")
The player from Villanova Basketball getting his eyeball popped out during the NCAA tourney was pretty nasty, ---
**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-not-want-to-see-that-football-injury/373015/32 "2006-09-17T22:27:26Z")
I love that you guys assume posters have stomachs of steel, posting “there’s a link to a video of this horrific injury _here_.” I would no more click one of those links than I would put a fork in my own eye. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-not-want-to-see-that-football-injury/373015/33 "2006-09-17T22:36:51Z")
[QUOTE=Jodi] I love that you guys assume posters have stomachs of steel, posting “there’s a link to a video of this horrific injury _here_.” I would no more click one of those links than I would put a fork in my own eye. 🙂 [/QUOTE] And when you do that, please post the video on YouTube so we can all enjoy it. 😛 Robin ---
**Author:** ![brianjedi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@brianjedi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brianjedi)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-not-want-to-see-that-football-injury/373015/34 "2006-09-17T23:05:23Z")
[Wesley Woodyard breaks Michael Bush’s leg.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fKgUP14Jnw) And UofL still whipped our asses. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-not-want-to-see-that-football-injury/373015/35 "2006-09-18T01:19:30Z")
[QUOTE=Enginerd] Clint Malarchuk had his throat cut by a skate during a hockey game. [/QUOTE] I’m not usually squeamish, due to a few years riding as an EMT. But this video clip raise the hairs up on my body. I had to go and Google, because one suspects based upon the gushing blood and sliced jugular that this man died right there on the darned ice. Thankfully, that is [not the case](http://ubersite.com/m/32313) \*\*\*\*\* NOTE- THERE IS A GRAPHIC COLOR PHOTOGRAPH OF CLINT ON THE ICE, WITH A POOL OF BLOOD UNDER HIM. IT IS NOT SEEN UPON FIRST HIT OF THIS LINK, IT HAS TO BE SCROLLED DOWN TO BUT IT IS A PART OF THIS LINK.\*\*\* \*\* > [@](#): > > In this time of sports where people are willing to intentionally willing to miss a shot, just to get a triple double (alla Bobby Sura) and pull out a cell phone after a touchdown just to look cool (see Joe Horn); its refreshing for me to learn about players who sacrifice their all just to play the game they love. > > In my opinion, no one fits into this more than former Quebec and Buffalo Sabers goalie Clint Malarchuk. Some of you avid sports fans may have seen the Sportscenter story about him, but for you’ve who have not; I wish to enlighten you upon this amazing person. > Clint Malarchuk was born in 1961 in Alberta, Canada. He was selected by the Quebec Nordiques in the 4th round in 1981. In 1987 he was traded to the Capitals and in 1989 he was traded to the Buffalo Sabers. It is this where his life took a tragic turn for the worse… > > In 1989, only 16 days after he was traded, during a game against the St. Louis Blues. On a routine play; St. Louis right winger Steve Tuttle was charging toward Malarchuk with defenseman Uwe Krupp closing in from behind. As the puck flashed through the crease, Krupp grabbed Tuttle and Tuttle’s leg kicked into the air, his skate blade slicing through the exposed flesh under Malarchuk’s mask. > > The skate blade of Tuttle slashed Malarchuk’s exterior jugular vein in his neck. It was this accident that caused goalies wear neck protectors. In seconds there was a pool of blood on the ice so large it filled the entire crease. During this whole time, Malarchuk remained conscious. It is because of this, that he remembers the words that he spoke after the accident. Malarchuk flung off his mask and collapsed to the ice in a pool of his own blood, fearing that he was about to die. He asked the trainer: > > "Am I going to live?‘’ > > Malarchuk struggled to stay conscious, sensing that if he did pass out he’d never wake up. Aware that his mother had been watching the game on TV, he had an equipment manager call and tell her he loved her. Then he asked for a priest. > > Something in his mind was telling him to get off the ice, “because I didn’t want to die on the ice. I was saying prayers. I was scared.” > > “I did think I was done,” said Malarchuk 13 years later, “Somewhere I’d heard that if you cut your jugular vein you’ve got a matter of minutes, like three minutes. I was going through the minutes preparing to die. I thought I had just three minutes to live and I’ve got a lot of repenting to do in three minutes.” > The sight was so grizzly that 2 spectators suffered heart attacks and 3 of Malarchuk’s teammates vomited while still on the ice. > > It was estimated that if the skate hit 1/8 inch higher on Malarchuk’s jugular, he would have been dead within 2 minutes. In the dressing room and on his way to the hospital, doctors spent 90 minutes and used over 300 stitches to close the wound. Cartooniverse ---
**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-not-want-to-see-that-football-injury/373015/36 "2006-09-18T01:37:44Z")
[QUOTE=Johnny L.A.] I couldn’t really see it in the video. The photo I saw 20 years ago was clear. [/QUOTE] When they go to the reverse angle clip, take a good look at Joe’s right leg (the leg farthest away from your viewpoint). Once Joe gets sacked, you’ll see his leg bend at a really bizarre angle. (It almost looks like Joe’s doing a split in that clip.) ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-not-want-to-see-that-football-injury/373015/37 "2006-09-18T01:40:15Z")
[QUOTE=Jplacer] Napoleon McCallum, a running back for the Oakland Raiders, dislocated his kneecap, torn three knee ligaments, ripped his calf and hamstring muscle and torn an artery in his knee after a tackle in a Monday Night Football game in 1994. [/QUOTE] Unfortunately, I remember watching that one live when it happened. I seem to recall them replaying that two or three times and then deciding that that was more than enough. ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-not-want-to-see-that-football-injury/373015/38 "2006-09-18T04:03:58Z")
I saw that video with Malarchuk awhile back, and wished I hadn’t. I didn’t look this time. It still makes me queasy to think about it. The only other one I know of that hasn’t been mentioned here was in WWF Wrestling. It was Sid Vicious, and I don’t remember the circumstances exactly–he was jumping off the top rope and landed badly. Basically, his leg broke clean through and hung at a right angle from his body, like all he had in there was rubber. Here’s a [video](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lXfs6JuVq8&search=sid%20vicious) of it (which somebody has inexplicably set to “The Monster Mash”…). No blood, just a leg bent a way that no proper leg should ever bend. ---
**Author:** ![brianjedi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@brianjedi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brianjedi)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-not-want-to-see-that-football-injury/373015/39 "2006-09-18T04:30:34Z")
[QUOTE=winterhawk11] I saw that video with Malarchuk awhile back, and wished I hadn’t. I didn’t look this time. It still makes me queasy to think about it. The only other one I know of that hasn’t been mentioned here was in WWF Wrestling. It was Sid Vicious, and I don’t remember the circumstances exactly–he was jumping off the top rope and landed badly. Basically, his leg broke clean through and hung at a right angle from his body, like all he had in there was rubber. Here’s a [video](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lXfs6JuVq8&search=sid%20vicious) of it (which somebody has inexplicably set to “The Monster Mash”…). No blood, just a leg bent a way that no proper leg should ever bend. [/QUOTE] WCW, actually, not the WWF. One of the last WCW PPVs, in fact. Sid broke his leg, then got paid to stay home until his contract ran out. No word on if he’s returned to playing semi-pro softball. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-not-want-to-see-that-football-injury/373015/40 "2006-09-18T05:01:46Z")
[QUOTE=John DiFool] I guess Tom Pryce’s death (and that of a race marshal) at Kyalami in the 70’s would qualify, tho I didn’t personally witness it until years later. Do a Youtube search, if you consider yourself brave… [/QUOTE] It’s worth remembering that it wasn’t just a famous race car driver who died that day; a teenage race marshall named Jansen Van Vuuren was also killed in that accident. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-not-want-to-see-that-football-injury/373015.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-did-not-want-to-see-that-football-injury/373015.md?page=3)