# I didn't know my racist uncle Dale was on here! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 15, 2015, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-didnt-know-my-racist-uncle-dale-was-on-here/740507 "2015-12-15T06:00:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-didnt-know-my-racist-uncle-dale-was-on-here/740507/1 "2015-12-15T06:00:17Z")
I have an uncle, Dale. I remember the last time he came to the family reunion, some four or five years ago. Things went great until just about the first beer, and then he immediately started talking politics. And not intelligently either - you’d think from how he was talking about it, the man was completely shitfaced. For those of us who had _seen_ Dale shitfaced, this was a far cry. He complained up and down to anyone who would listen about how awful those damn football players were for not just shutting up and playing the game, for caring about political issues and racism, and using their substantial pull to actually change things. Man, did that piss him off! He didn’t even go to or have anything to do with the school whose team he was mad about! And it wasn’t like he had much of a coherent statement. Just “those pansies are pissed about racism? Fuck 'em! They should grow a thicker skin!” One assumes, he means one with less melanin. Then he went off on the teachers union. Again, nothing about it particularly coherent pissed him off, he was just mad at the teachers in his locality for standing up and protesting police brutality. He wondered aloud, in his typical angry, drunk fashion, why the teacher’s union should give a damn about what the police were doing, and ignored people pointing out that the police had a fairly large presence in inner-city schools. Again, his drunken, inane ramblings had more than a tinge of “got mine, fuck you”, and several people asked aloud, “What do you care, Uncle Dale? You don’t go to school. You don’t have any kids\*. What’s your problem?” - (No woman could stand to be around him for more than a few hours at a time. Really almost a tragic story, or at least it would be if he weren’t such a terrible person.) Apparently they were blocking him from going shopping. He didn’t care that there were more important things in life than 50% off a flatscreen that didn’t even fit in his dingy trailer, he was just mad, mad, mad. Then he went off on the people protesting racial injustice and police shooting. By then, the few black members of the family were feeling _horribly_ uncomfortable, and asked him kindly to change the topic. But he just kept going, calling them out personally as whiny crybabies, and refusing to acknowledge in any way that racism still existed - after all, it’s Obama’s America, and everyone knows that having a black president makes everything okay. I never saw Uncle Dale after that. He’s been barred from the family reunions on account of absolutely nobody liking him. It wasn’t even that everyone was opposed to his views. I remember my Grandfather making some arguments not unsympathetic to Dale. But he actually made decent points, and he refrained from making those arguments around Dale, lest people think he was somehow defending the stupid bigot. I removed him from facebook after posting yet another racist screed - ironically, about something which not only was trivial, but which didn’t affect him in the slightest, making him even more pathetic than the “microaggression pansies” he was bitching about. But it’s nice to see he’s found a new home here at Straight Dope. One hopes the ignorance-fighting machine works well… There’s so many things wrong with this man, and almost all of his problems are self-inflicted. Welcome aboard, Uncle Dale. Just, do us all a favor? For your favorite nephew? Either learn something or _go away_. Not because this is a safe space, but because there’s a reason absolutely fucking nobody likes you. ---
**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-didnt-know-my-racist-uncle-dale-was-on-here/740507/2 "2015-12-15T06:52:05Z")
Nice OP, but it lacks context. Where is your Uncle Dale hanging out on te SDMB? What’s his handle? ---
**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-didnt-know-my-racist-uncle-dale-was-on-here/740507/3 "2015-12-15T07:46:39Z")
A bit like me then. Only one kid since my personality is more potent than any birth control device, and inviting me to a reunion is more of a memory test. As to the subject offering, I’d rather discuss the environment and current events. One thing though, I didn’t see that much rabid racism described in the OP, except for that part with black members of the family getting uncomfortable. Interesting though, how they’d deal with a white racist relative. ---
**Author:** ![Vaevictis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f04885/32.png) [@Vaevictis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vaevictis)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-didnt-know-my-racist-uncle-dale-was-on-here/740507/4 "2015-12-15T10:06:08Z")
Nice, beautiful way to sum up that Missouri thread, your picture of the uncle nails it. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-didnt-know-my-racist-uncle-dale-was-on-here/740507/5 "2015-12-15T15:41:59Z")
Anyone wondering about context: > [@Missouri football players threaten to strike? An exercise in pure stupidity](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missouri-football-players-threaten-to-strike-an-exercise-in-pure-stupidity/737039/1): > > I don’t spend much time following the university of Missouri’s football program, they’re rarely relevant nationally. But the sheer stupidity of this proposed strike has piqued my interest. The players claim they won’t take the field until the university president resigns or is removed from office. That’s beyond stupid, the university president is primarily responsible for fund raising, not for fighting whatever alleged racism they seem to think exists on campus. Let’s face it, a lot of the players aren’t there to study Shakespeare, they’re only there for football. > > I predict the players will ultimately fold and they’ll play next Saturday. Maybe they’ll make a silly political statement by coming out of the tunnel with their hands up, but they’re. It going to forfeit a game and risk missing a minor bowl game. > > [College Football News, Scores, Standings & Stats | FOX Sports](http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/missouri-tigers-african-american-players-strike-demand-school-president-tim-wolfe-resign-110715) Notice how _he doesn’t actually follow MO football_. He’s just chiming in to say that this thing he knows nothing about and has no background on nor personal investment is is incredibly stupid. How dare those stupid whiny babies get upset about this? And the sad part is, it’s not like there’s a dearth of arguments going on there. There are a lot of people making really reasonable arguments in either direction. Dale has no interest in that. > [@Chicago Teachers Union threatening a strike](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicago-teachers-union-threatening-a-strike/739425/1): > > I’ve posted several times that I utterly despise Karen Lewis, the head of the Chicago Teachers Union. Next week , the union will vote on a possible strike. I hope the union comes to their senses and votes against this very ill advised strike. > > The CTU has been sticking their nose where it doesn’t belong. They endorsed the anarchist Black Friday protest last week and now they’re calling for a civilian oversight board to monitor the police force. It’s no secret that Karen Lewis has her eye on the mayor’s office and she certainly would have run this year if not for health problems. Instead , she backed a hapless puppet, Chuy Garcia, who was resoundingly defeated by Rahm Emannuel. > > This strike is simply to further Lewis’ political ambitions and to try to capitalize on the hysteria surrounding the Chicago police department. > > What are the stated goals of this silly proposed strike? “Good schools and a fair contract.” Well, that’s nice. What’s their definition of fair? > > A $15 per hour minimum wage for all school employees? That’s not going to happen. > > They also will push for an elected school board, obviously so they can try to pack the board with their candidates. I’m totally against an elected school board. Elections have consequences even when you don’t like the result. Rahm Emannuel has been elected Mayor of Chicago twice and he gets to pick the school board members as a duty of his office. > > The last strike ended embarrassingly for the CTU but it satisfied Lewis’ massive ego by giving her numerous tv appearances. I’m sure this next proposed strike is more of the same. > > [Chicago Teachers Union sets dates for strike vote - ABC7 Chicago](http://abc7chicago.com/education/chicago-teachers-union-sets-dates-for-strike-vote-/1107551/) > > [Chicago Teachers Union Asks Members to Vote 'Yes' for Strike Next Week - Downtown - Chicago - DNAinfo](http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20151203/downtown/chicago-teachers-union-asks-members-vote-yes-for-strike-next-week) Even ignoring the tone, the information content here is basically nonexistent. He knows nothing about the situation. > [@Chicago Teachers Union threatening a strike](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicago-teachers-union-threatening-a-strike/739425/9): > > I went to look for more information on their position regarding civilian police oversight. Regrettably , I found their own publication full of Black Lives Matter propaganda. > > Pdf link > [http://www.ctunet.com/media/chicago-union-teacher/downloadable-pdf/CUT-March-2015-FINAL-WEB.pdf](http://www.ctunet.com/media/chicago-union-teacher/downloadable-pdf/CUT-March-2015-FINAL-WEB.pdf) > [@Chicago Teachers Union threatening a strike](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicago-teachers-union-threatening-a-strike/739425/12): > > I wouldn’t try snake handling with the BLM vipers. They’re just as likely to bite you. A group of students could organize a protest by boycotting classes because some white administrator hadn’t checked his privilege to the satisfaction of some activist. > > Teachers unions should focus on eduction issues, not the pet political causes of their Dear Leader. > [@Are the actions of BLM wise or foolish?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-actions-of-blm-wise-or-foolish/738278/38): > > I despise them and openly taunt the protestors. I think their actions are usually foolish and have alienated people on the center left, such as myself. Especially the silly protests they organize to tell me to ’ check my white privilege’ or other such nonsense. Interrupting CTA train rides, the Pride Parade, or brunch in restaurants is highly counter productive to their cause. What an asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-didnt-know-my-racist-uncle-dale-was-on-here/740507/6 "2015-12-15T15:53:52Z")
I endorse this pitting. I finally had enough in the Chicago Teacher Strike thread to smack him down for knowing absolutely nothing about something that he’s so very angry about. Its fine to be mad about an issue, but at least be a little bit informed about whatever it is your raging about. I can’t understand the mindset to let yourself be so furiously angry about something you clearly know nothing about. Seems kind of insane to me. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-didnt-know-my-racist-uncle-dale-was-on-here/740507/7 "2015-12-15T16:00:39Z")
Am I the only one picturing this? > **[Dale Gribble](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dale_Gribble)** > > Dale Alvin Gribble (born July 12, 1953) is a fictional character in the Fox animated series King of the Hill, voiced by Johnny Hardwick. He is an exterminator, bounty hunter, owner of Daletech, chain smoker, gun fanatic, and paranoid believer of almost all conspiracy theories and urban legends. > Daniel Stern was originally offered the role of Dale Gribble but wasn't offered enough money. Stephen Root also auditioned for the role, but later stated that "it didn't feel right." The role was eventua... ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-didnt-know-my-racist-uncle-dale-was-on-here/740507/8 "2015-12-15T16:04:16Z")
Give him his props. Time was, he only ranted about women. Now he’s ranting about black people and public unions, too. Much more inclusive. ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-didnt-know-my-racist-uncle-dale-was-on-here/740507/9 "2015-12-15T16:08:59Z")
Huh! You learn something new everyday I guess. I didn’t know there were places where the school board was appointed. Ours are elected. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-didnt-know-my-racist-uncle-dale-was-on-here/740507/10 "2015-12-15T16:20:13Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > I have an uncle, Dale. I remember the last time he came to the family reunion, some four or five years ago. Things went great until just about the first beer, and then he immediately started talking politics. And not intelligently either - you’d think from how he was talking about it, the man was completely shitfaced. For those of us who had _seen_ Dale shitfaced, this was a far cry. > > He complained up and down to anyone who would listen about how awful those damn football players were for not just shutting up and playing the game, for caring about political issues and racism, and using their substantial pull to actually change things. Man, did that piss him off! He didn’t even go to or have anything to do with the school whose team he was mad about! And it wasn’t like he had much of a coherent statement. Just “those pansies are pissed about racism? Fuck 'em! They should grow a thicker skin!” > > One assumes, he means one with less melanin. > > Then he went off on the teachers union. Again, nothing about it particularly coherent pissed him off, he was just mad at the teachers in his locality for standing up and protesting police brutality. He wondered aloud, in his typical angry, drunk fashion, why the teacher’s union should give a damn about what the police were doing, and ignored people pointing out that the police had a fairly large presence in inner-city schools. Again, his drunken, inane ramblings had more than a tinge of “got mine, fuck you”, and several people asked aloud, “What do you care, Uncle Dale? You don’t go to school. You don’t have any kids\*. What’s your problem?” > > - (No woman could stand to be around him for more than a few hours at a time. Really almost a tragic story, or at least it would be if he weren’t such a terrible person.) > > Apparently they were blocking him from going shopping. He didn’t care that there were more important things in life than 50% off a flatscreen that didn’t even fit in his dingy trailer, he was just mad, mad, mad. > > Then he went off on the people protesting racial injustice and police shooting. By then, the few black members of the family were feeling _horribly_ uncomfortable, and asked him kindly to change the topic. But he just kept going, calling them out personally as whiny crybabies, and refusing to acknowledge in any way that racism still existed - after all, it’s Obama’s America, and everyone knows that having a black president makes everything okay. > > I never saw Uncle Dale after that. He’s been barred from the family reunions on account of absolutely nobody liking him. It wasn’t even that everyone was opposed to his views. I remember my Grandfather making some arguments not unsympathetic to Dale. But he actually made decent points, and he refrained from making those arguments around Dale, lest people think he was somehow defending the stupid bigot. I removed him from facebook after posting yet another racist screed - ironically, about something which not only was trivial, but which didn’t affect him in the slightest, making him even more pathetic than the “microaggression pansies” he was bitching about. > > But it’s nice to see he’s found a new home here at Straight Dope. One hopes the ignorance-fighting machine works well… There’s so many things wrong with this man, and almost all of his problems are self-inflicted. Welcome aboard, Uncle Dale. Just, do us all a favor? For your favorite nephew? Either learn something or _go away_. Not because this is a safe space, but because there’s a reason absolutely fucking nobody likes you. Cool story bro. Wanna regale us with stories of other racists in your family? ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-didnt-know-my-racist-uncle-dale-was-on-here/740507/11 "2015-12-15T16:25:27Z")
Not a cheery fellow, **dale**. Doesn’t… doesn’t like things. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-didnt-know-my-racist-uncle-dale-was-on-here/740507/12 "2015-12-15T17:09:17Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Cool story bro. Wanna regale us with stories of other racists in your family? It’s a parable. Or a cautionary tale. Something like that. Look for the deeper meaning. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-didnt-know-my-racist-uncle-dale-was-on-here/740507/13 "2015-12-15T17:47:30Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > It’s a parable. Or a cautionary tale. Something like that. Look for the deeper meaning. It’s hard to read between the lines when you have trouble actually reading the lines. ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-didnt-know-my-racist-uncle-dale-was-on-here/740507/14 "2015-12-15T17:49:25Z")
Go easy on him he’s just an “[everyday center-left liberal](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18887412&postcount=38)” who’s only vocal due to the alienating nature of BLM. Those blacks **really are** shooting themselves in the foot here; whenever will they learn. Perhaps if they stop, shut up, and apologize to liberals like **dale** here ‘catastrophe’ might be averted. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-didnt-know-my-racist-uncle-dale-was-on-here/740507/15 "2015-12-15T18:28:42Z")
> [@orcenio](#): > > Go easy on him he’s just an “[everyday center-left liberal](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18887412&postcount=38)” who’s only vocal due to the alienating nature of BLM. Those blacks **really are** shooting themselves in the foot here; whenever will they learn. > > Perhaps if they stop, shut up, and apologize to liberals like **dale** here ‘catastrophe’ might be averted. Anyway, don’t the textbooks in Texas now call their ancestors “migrant workers”, and tell us how good they had it in the old days? ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-didnt-know-my-racist-uncle-dale-was-on-here/740507/16 "2015-12-15T20:43:51Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > I never saw Uncle Dale after that. He’s been barred from the family reunions on account of absolutely nobody liking him. From your lips to Mod’s ears… ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-didnt-know-my-racist-uncle-dale-was-on-here/740507/17 "2015-12-16T01:00:03Z")
He really claims to be center left? I do not think it means what he thinks it means. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-didnt-know-my-racist-uncle-dale-was-on-here/740507/18 "2015-12-16T01:26:15Z")
Here’s a thread your dumbfuck uncle started as Martin Luther King Day approached: > **[Let's pit Martin Luther King!](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=746440)** > > So here we go again. Endless “I have a dream” clips. Every politician bending over backwards to show their love for this useless turd. Endless bullshit about “Doctor King” Hell, some pastors will even call him a saint. The idea of MLK being considers... Center Left? Maybe, among racist shitbags as a whole, on that scale he may skew slightly to the left side of center, among racist shitbags, you know, when you include all of them. ---
**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-didnt-know-my-racist-uncle-dale-was-on-here/740507/19 "2015-12-16T01:37:54Z")
> [@ddsun](#): > > He really claims to be center left? I do not think it means what he thinks it means. It’s quite possible his shoes have a large “L” and “R” painted on them and he’s just got them on the wrong feet again. ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-didnt-know-my-racist-uncle-dale-was-on-here/740507/20 "2015-12-16T02:50:42Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Here’s a thread your dumbfuck uncle started as Martin Luther King Day approached: > [Let's pit Martin Luther King! - The BBQ Pit - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=746440) > > Center Left? Maybe, among racist shitbags as a whole, on that scale he may skew slightly to the left side of center, among racist shitbags, you know, when you include all of them. What an OP. In ‘trolling for attention 101’ that would be an example of trying _too hard_. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-didnt-know-my-racist-uncle-dale-was-on-here/740507.md?page=2)