# I Died on the 405

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-died-on-the-405/295666
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [March 22, 2005, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-died-on-the-405/295666 "2005-03-22T02:05:59Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Mr.Roboto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/76d3ee/32.png) [@Mr.Roboto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Roboto)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2005, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-died-on-the-405/295666/1 "2005-03-22T02:05:59Z")

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Once a robot, I’m now a lifeless Zombie. My soul died on the 405 freeway. This LA/Orange Cty California freeway is moderate to Heavy to Gridlocked, 24/7. Twenty-five miles on this freeway equates to 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 hellish, anguish filled hours of driving, a onetime family funfilled adventure. Everyday, your stuck in your vehicle surrounded by impatient maniacal carbon monoxide laced drones. Tractor-Trailers and assorted trucks dominate the lanes, some with Graffiti to remind you that your in Hell. RoadHazards, Potholes as deep as wheelbarrows, Living Room furniture, Aluminum Ladders, this freeway is virtually boobytrapped. I might as well be in Iraq. Drivers on Cellphones, blah,blah,blah…“shut the hell up and drive the damn car!” Nobody Signals, Tail-Gators from Satans cellar. Lawless single-drivers defiantly using the carpool lane ignoring the $271 dollar violation. Where are the Cops??? Cars with no Breaklights or Headlights, take your pick. Hummers and SUV’s the size of the Titanic with headlights brighter than a nuclear reaction drive with malicious intimidation. Illegal immigrant drivers, out-of-state drivers, cars with no License plates…I cannot escape this fucking insanity!!!  
Where are the Cops??? This asphalt Demon has stolen my soul…

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### Author: ![Metacom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@Metacom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Metacom)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2005, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-died-on-the-405/295666/2 "2005-03-22T02:10:49Z")

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> [@Mr. Roboto](#):
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> Once a robot, I’m now a lifeless Zombie. My soul died on the 405 freeway. This LA/Orange Cty California freeway is moderate to Heavy to Gridlocked, 24/7.

Not true. I once drove entered the 405 via the 101 interchange and went deep into the bowels of Los Angeles (I was heading to Long Beach) without hitting _any_ slow spots at all. The road was just flyin’.

The trick is to only travel between 2:30 AM and 4:30 AM or so.

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### Author: ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2005, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-died-on-the-405/295666/3 "2005-03-22T02:12:05Z")

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Hey, if you’re getting bored, come on over to Houston and drive I-10 from Katy to the 610 Loop. It’s just exactly the same as you wrote, only flatter and straighter.

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### Author: ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2005, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-died-on-the-405/295666/4 "2005-03-22T02:52:17Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Hey, if you’re getting bored, come on over to Houston and drive I-10 from Katy to the 610 Loop. It’s just exactly the same as you wrote, only flatter and straighter.

I’ve been calling I-10 “Satan’s Highway” for years.

I don’t know how well Houston’s traffic stacks up to L.A.'s famed traffic, but we’re neck and neck with them for smoggiest city in the country. Our horrible traffic can’t be too far off the pace.

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### Author: ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2005, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-died-on-the-405/295666/5 "2005-03-22T02:58:08Z")

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Most of the time I _never_ had any trouble on the 405!

Lane-splitting is legal in California, y’see.

On a motorcycle you can split lanes, use the HOV lanes, save time, save gas, and regain your soul at the same time.

🙂

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### Author: ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2005, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-died-on-the-405/295666/6 "2005-03-22T03:34:36Z")

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I am aware of the nightmarish 405, but Lady Fortune has been so kind as to bless me with few encounters with its busy periods. The few times I _have_ had such an unpleasantness, I just smoked a few bowls and pumped the Marley…

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### Author: ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2005, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-died-on-the-405/295666/7 "2005-03-22T03:49:47Z")

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> [@SPOOFE](#):
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> I am aware of the nightmarish 405, but Lady Fortune has been so kind as to bless me with few encounters with its busy periods. The few times I _have_ had such an unpleasantness, I just smoked a few bowls and pumped the Marley…

'Course you weren’t driving, of course.

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### Author: ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2005, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-died-on-the-405/295666/8 "2005-03-22T04:17:59Z")

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> [@neuroman](#):
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> I’ve been calling I-10 “Satan’s Highway” for years.
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> I don’t know how well Houston’s traffic stacks up to L.A.'s famed traffic, but we’re neck and neck with them for smoggiest city in the country. Our horrible traffic can’t be too far off the pace.

Would that be the same I-10 that starts in L.A.?

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### Author: ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2005, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-died-on-the-405/295666/9 "2005-03-22T04:45:31Z")

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I heard a story once about a guy on the 405 who had to go

number two

and all he had was a MickyDee’s bag containing a half-eaten cheeseburger. :eek:

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### Author: ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2005, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-died-on-the-405/295666/10 "2005-03-22T04:48:41Z")

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I had to drive on the 405 a few months ago and promised to never bitch about Chicago traffic again.

Oh, by the way, you lane-splitters scare the crap out of people who aren’t used to it.

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### Author: ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2005, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-died-on-the-405/295666/11 "2005-03-22T05:02:07Z")

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Even **crossing** the 405 is hell. I work in Santa Monica and my daughter goes to pre-school near UCLA, which means that once or twice a week (depending on my wife’s schedule) I have to cross under the 405 on Wilshire to pick her up.

If something bad happens in the pass to the Valley, the traffic backs up onto Sunset and Wilshire, grid-locking the entire west side. One day last month it took me 70 minutes to get from Santa Monica to Bel Air … and I didn’t even get on the effing freeway!!!

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### Author: ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2005, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-died-on-the-405/295666/12 "2005-03-22T05:35:56Z")

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> [@adam yax](#):
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> Would that be the same I-10 that starts in L.A.?

It sure would. That highway runs through both L.A. and Houston, and is home to the five of the worst twelve bottlenecks in the nation according to a [study published last year](http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/news/021804_nw_traffic.html).

Twelve Worst Highway Interchanges in America:

1. **Los Angeles** - Ventura Freeway US-101 at I-405 interchange; 318,000 cars; 27,144,000 hours.
2. **Houston** - I-610 at **I-10** interchange; 295,000 cars; 25,181,000 hours.
3. **Chicago** - I-90/94 at I-290 “Circle Interchange;” 293,671 cars; 25,068,000 hours.
4. **Phoenix** - **I-10** at SR-51/202 “Mini-Stack” interchange; 280,800 cars; 22,805,000 hours.
5. **Los Angeles** - I-405 at\*\* I-10 \*\*interchange; 296,000 cars; 22,792,000 hours.
6. \*\*Atlanta \*\*- I-75 at I-85 interchange; 259,128 cars; 21,045,000 hours.
7. **Washington, D.C.** - I-495 at I-270 interchange; 243,425 cars; 19,429,000 hours.
8. \*\*Los Angeles \*\*- **I-10** at I-5 interchange; 318,500 cars; 18,606,000 hours.
9. \*\*Los Angeles \*\*- I-405 at I-605 interchange; 318,000 cars; 18,606,000 hours.
10. \*\*Atlanta \*\*- I-285 at I-85 “Spaghetti Junction” interchange; 266,000 cars; 17,072,000 hours.
11. **Chicago** - I-94 at I-90 interchange; 260,403 cars; 16,713,000 hours.
12. **Phoenix** - I-17 at\*\* I-10\*\* “the Stack” interchange to Cactus Road; 208,000 cars; 16,310,000 hours.

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### Author: ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2005, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-died-on-the-405/295666/13 "2005-03-22T13:21:21Z")

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You entered the State of California of your own fool free will.  
It’s your own damn fault.

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### Author: ![whiterabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/cab0a1/32.png) [@whiterabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whiterabbit)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2005, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-died-on-the-405/295666/14 "2005-03-22T13:36:55Z")

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Oh God, I used to have to drive the 405…_twitch_ _twitch_

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### Author: ![Metacom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@Metacom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Metacom)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2005, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-died-on-the-405/295666/15 "2005-03-22T13:38:10Z")

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> [@ouryL](#):
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> and all he had was a MickyDee’s bag containing a half-eaten cheeseburger. :eek:

Was the cheeseburger there before or after he crapped in the bag? 😕

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### Author: ![Mr.Roboto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/76d3ee/32.png) [@Mr.Roboto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Roboto)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2005, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-died-on-the-405/295666/16 "2005-03-22T14:32:41Z")

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> [@Bosda Di'Chi of Tricor](#):
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> You entered the State of California of your own fool free will.  
> It’s your own damn fault.

```
Bosda....I entered The State of California from my mothers birth Canal...
```

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### Author: ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2005, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-died-on-the-405/295666/17 "2005-03-22T14:36:50Z")

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> [@Mr. Roboto](#):
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> Bosda…I entered The State of California from my mothers birth Canal…

Me too.

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### Author: ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2005, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-died-on-the-405/295666/18 "2005-03-22T14:45:49Z")

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> [@Johnny L.A.](#):
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> Me too.

**Mamma Roboto’s** got some slpainin’ to do. :eek:

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### Author: ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2005, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-died-on-the-405/295666/19 "2005-03-22T14:47:07Z")

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that’s **splainin’**

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### Author: ![Dragonblink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dragonblink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragonblink)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2005, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-died-on-the-405/295666/20 "2005-03-22T14:58:24Z")

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Ah, see, the 405 only _moonlights_ as a freeway. Its day job is as a parking lot. They should really hire some valets.

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