# I dislike BBT solely because of Leonard **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 19, 2011, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dislike-bbt-solely-because-of-leonard/600199 "2011-10-19T22:56:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dislike-bbt-solely-because-of-leonard/600199/41 "2011-10-20T23:07:03Z")
> [@Lord\_Mondegreen](#): > > I tend to disagree. He’s an actor. He’s doing a job. I get that, but when these serial killer actors go on Conan to promote their movie, they’re not still in serial killer mode. Unless Parsons is “always on,” his real personality is extremely close to Sheldon’s. And I’ve met too many geeks and nerds in my life with some (but thankfully not all) of Sheldon’s traits. There’s almost no way that he is the way he is in real life and isn’t at least a little nerdy. The disdain comes across as a front. And a rather jerkish one at that. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dislike-bbt-solely-because-of-leonard/600199/42 "2011-10-21T06:45:53Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > But he was drunk. Drunk Raj is like the Mr. Hyde to Raj’s Dr. Jekyll. No, I mean he was an asshole before the actual party, at work. > [@](#): > > Parsons actually seems downright insulted when interviewers ask him if he’s a geek. But I’m not buying it. I think you have to be at least a little geeky to take a job like BBT. The nerdisms alone would drive him mad if he didn’t care about it a little. He really comes across as just a jobber, of the Olivier school of “Try acting, dear boy”. Definitely not a Method man. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dislike-bbt-solely-because-of-leonard/600199/43 "2011-10-21T06:59:16Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > But he was drunk. Drunk Raj is like the Mr. Hyde to Raj’s Dr. Jekyll. One further thought - I’m of the “Alcohol lowers inhibitions, it doesn’t change personalities” school of thought - if Drunk Raj is an asshole, that means Sober Raj is an asshole who hides it (and not all that well - he has frequent bursts of anger, he’s often bitchy in his interactions with Howard, and his behaviour when he and Sheldon were winning at Ka’a was also assholish) ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dislike-bbt-solely-because-of-leonard/600199/44 "2011-10-21T13:45:12Z")
Galecki’s first role was David, straight man and kicking post to Roseanne’s Darlene. As he did with Charlie Sheen, Chuck Lorre saw the potential of surrounding that character with the right supporting cast, and hit comedy gold. Leonard brought Howard and Raj into Sheldon’s life, and he is the glue that holds the friendship together. Howard and Raj have a good bromance going, and Leonard is the buffer between them and Sheldon. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dislike-bbt-solely-because-of-leonard/600199/45 "2011-10-21T14:03:12Z")
> [@Lord\_Mondegreen](#): > > I tend to disagree. He’s an actor. He’s doing a job. > > Does someone playing a psychotic serial killer need to be at least a little psychotic and stabby? Because otherwise the violence and irrational behaviour would drive him mad. That’s really not a fair comparison, since I can’t remember the last realistic portrayal of a psychotic serial killer that I’ve seen. It’s more of a character archetype than based on the real thing. The way they do act? Angry enough to kill someone and revel in it? Acting crazy in the least accurate ways? Yeah, I’d say they have to have at least experienced that to handle it. Or at least been around people who have experienced it. And if you hang around with geeks intentionally, you pretty much are a geek. ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dislike-bbt-solely-because-of-leonard/600199/46 "2011-10-21T15:59:25Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > But that doesn’t jibe with the first or second episode where they accidentally discover that Raj’s mutism goes away after imbibing alcohol. At that point, alcohol’s effect couldn’t be psychological. The two are not mutually exclusive. Alcohol has a physiological effect on him, but there is also the placebo effect. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dislike-bbt-solely-because-of-leonard/600199/47 "2011-10-21T16:19:40Z")
Personally, one of the things I love about the show is the fact that the character who’s most like me _isn’t_ an absurd caricature of nerdiness, and in fact isn’t even the nerdiest of the cast. I basically am a Leonard, minus the relationship with Penny. I do think they exaggerated the characters a little: It is a TV show, after all, and exaggeration makes for better drama and better humor. But only a little. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dislike-bbt-solely-because-of-leonard/600199/48 "2011-10-21T17:43:39Z")
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**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dislike-bbt-solely-because-of-leonard/600199/49 "2011-10-21T18:04:19Z")
> [@njtt](#): > > Wow, the conversations on those dates must have been seriously one sided (or drunken). 🙂 > [@Chronos](#): > > I do think they exaggerated the characters a little: **Chronos** has it right - Raj is an exaggeration of the fellow I dated, but not much. When we first met he was absurdly shy around me and all women - I mean, we dated for 3 years and by the end he was a normal guy, but in other ways he was very much like Raj. Indian, nerdy, oppressive parents who would have had a shit fit if they found out he was dating a white girl, etc. He even acts like a bit of a dick when he gets drunk. 🙂 I have to say though, that I’m always disappointed when threads like this take this kind of turn - like people are critical that the people on the show aren’t EXACTLY like people IRL. Come on - it’s a 22 minute sitcom - a certain amount of short hand is required to move the story along - if every character was going to have a complete, richly detailed back story, with total internal consistency, each episode would be like _Seven Samurai_. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dislike-bbt-solely-because-of-leonard/600199/50 "2011-10-21T18:42:03Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > the world’s second hottest math nerd, Danica McKellar I’d like to erdos _her_ bacon! ---
**Author:** ![Orville\_mogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/aeb1de/32.png) [@Orville\_mogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orville_mogul)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dislike-bbt-solely-because-of-leonard/600199/51 "2024-12-14T14:02:27Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > (such as the world’s second hottest math nerd, Danica McKellar). I know I am reviving a very old thread, but since no one bit on this… who is the world’s first hottest math nerd? ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dislike-bbt-solely-because-of-leonard/600199/52 "2024-12-14T18:14:20Z")
I just did a search on world’s hottest math near and the name that came up most often is Pietro Boselli. The next most common name coming up is Oksana Neveselaya. Assuming these are from people faking things to get clicks, these seem to be the answer. ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dislike-bbt-solely-because-of-leonard/600199/53 "2024-12-14T23:02:30Z")
I just did another search on world’s hottest math nerd. The name that came up most often is Pietro Boselli. The next most common name is Oksana Neveselaya, but she is a fake math nerd. All the mentions of her online are from a website with a picture of someone else. Incidentally, another math nerd who’s known for something else outside mathematics is John Urschel. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dislike-bbt-solely-because-of-leonard/600199/54 "2024-12-14T23:47:47Z")
Given that one profile of Oksana Neveselaya says she was born in 1999 in Ukraine, and another says it was 1983 in Belarus, I’m a little skeptical. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dislike-bbt-solely-because-of-leonard/600199/55 "2024-12-15T00:16:34Z")
It’s higher math. ---
**Author:** ![Galactus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galactus/32/3581_2.png) [@Galactus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Galactus)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dislike-bbt-solely-because-of-leonard/600199/56 "2024-12-15T18:20:43Z")
> [@Orville\_mogul](#): > > who is the world’s first hottest math nerd? [Maybe Rachel Riley from 8 Out of Ten Cats?](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3205512/?ref_=tt_cst_i_4) ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dislike-bbt-solely-because-of-leonard/600199/57 "2024-12-15T18:46:06Z")
If you want to include women who died within the history of the SDMB, there’s the actress Hedy Lamarr, who invented frequency hopping. ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dislike-bbt-solely-because-of-leonard/600199/58 "2024-12-15T18:51:50Z")
@Justin_Bailey you still around? Cuz we got QUESTIONS for you! (Okay, just the one.) ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dislike-bbt-solely-because-of-leonard/600199/59 "2024-12-15T22:44:29Z")
> [@Orville\_mogul](#): > > who is the world’s first hottest math nerd? Clickbait to the rescue! I just searched “list of sexy math nerds” and got a list of seven women and three men. Caution, the list was compiled in 2013, so some of them may have dropped from prime numbers to fractions. > **[These Are The Hottest Math Professors In America](https://www.businessinsider.com/hottest-math-professors-in-america-2013-10)** > > These are the hottest math professors in America, according to students ratings on Rate My Professor. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dislike-bbt-solely-because-of-leonard/600199/60 "2024-12-17T09:22:11Z")
I would say so, and so would Jimmy Carr: Spoilered because - [I _did_ say it was Jimmy Carr, didn/t I?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5ngCLnElNE) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dislike-bbt-solely-because-of-leonard/600199.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dislike-bbt-solely-because-of-leonard/600199.md?page=4)